Feds Spend $1.5 Million to Study Why Lesbians Are Fat


petros
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The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has awarded $1.5 million to study biological and social factors for why “three-quarters” of lesbians are obese and why gay males are not, calling it an issue of “high public-health significance.”

Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Mass., has received two grants administered by NIH’s Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) to study the relationship between sexual orientation and obesity.

“Obesity is one of the most critical public health issues affecting the U.S. today,” the description of the grant reads. “Racial and socioeconomic disparities in the determinants, distribution, and consequences of obesity are receiving increasing attention.”

“[H]owever, one area that is only beginning to be recognized is the striking interplay of gender and sexual orientation in obesity disparities,” it states. “It is now well-established that women of minority sexual orientation are disproportionately affected by the obesity epidemic, with it continues.

“In stark contrast, among men, heterosexual males have nearly double the risk of obesity compared to gay males.”

The investigators say there has been “almost no” research devoted to this disparity, and they have set out to find the biological, psychological, and social factors behind it.

The project is being led by S. Bryn Austin, Director of Fellowship Research Training in the Division of Adolescent and Young Adult Medicine at Boston Children’s Hospital. Austin is also an Associate Professor in the Department of Social and Behavioral Sciences at the Harvard School of Public Health, and an Associate Epidemiologist at Brigham and Women's Hospital (BWH), which is a teaching hospital of Harvard Medical School.

BWH first received a $778,622 grant for the study in 2011, followed by a $741,378 grant in 2012, totaling $1,520,000. The project has the potential to be a five-year study.

The grants list a “project end date” and a “budget end date” of June 30, 2016. The researchers said the subject is one of “high public-health significance.”

However, the NICHD said the future of the project is uncertain because of the sequester--automatic spending cuts that took effect on March 1.

"The NIH is currently assessing the impact on funding due to sequestration," said Robert Bock, Press Officer for the NICHD. "It is not possible to say how this (or any other NIH grant) will be affected in the long term beyond the 90 percent funding levels already in place."

"Obesity is a serious public health problem affecting a large proportion of the U.S. population," Bock said. "The study is examining reasons why the risk of obesity varies according to sexual orientation, in order to inform the development of future strategies to prevent obesity."

The researchers said the subject is one of “high public-health significance.”

“It will be impossible to develop evidence-based preventive interventions unless we first answer basic questions about causal pathways, as we plan to do,” they said. “Our study has high potential for public health impact not only for sexual minorities but also for heterosexuals, as we seek to uncover how processes of gender socialization may exacerbate obesity risk in both sexual minority females and heterosexual males.”

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JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has awarded $1.5 million to study biological and social factors for why “three-quarters” of lesbians are obese and why gay males are not, calling it an issue of “high public-health significance.”
Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Mass., has received two grants administered by NIH’s Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) to study the relationship between sexual orientation and obesity.
“Obesity is one of the most critical public health issues affecting the U.S. today,” the description of the grant reads. “Racial and socioeconomic disparities in the determinants, distribution, and consequences of obesity are receiving increasing attention.”
“[H]owever, one area that is only beginning to be recognized is the striking interplay of gender and sexual orientation in obesity disparities,” it states. “It is now well-established that women of minority sexual orientation are disproportionately affected by the obesity epidemic, with it continues.
“In stark contrast, among men, heterosexual males have nearly double the risk of obesity compared to gay males.”

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I wish they'd have contacted me.................for $3/4 million I could have solved their problem, they eat too much and don't get enough exercise! -
 
EagleSmack
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Our taxpayer money at work. What recession? What sequester?
 
Serryah
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Likely due to a lot of things and NOT the "they eat too much and don't get enough exercise" BS that the majority usually spout off.

But come on, you don't need a specific study for it; yeesh.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I wish they'd have contacted me.................for $3/4 million I could have solved their problem, they eat too much and don't get enough exercise! -

Heck JLM... you answered their question right here for nothing!
 
karrie
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That's going to be a bad one, because you can't really discuss the reasons without using some pretty grand generalizations.

I can sum it up for them really simply....

Female tendency to nurture and nest equals a propensity to gain weight.

Male tendency to want to seek new sexual partners and seek adventure, equals a propensity to remain fit.

When you put male and female together, they influence one another, and you get the general population's weight statistics.

Put two women together, double the nurturing, and they tend to compound the weight gain.

Put two men together and they still tend to be more focused on sex, rather than nurturing one another, than a lesbian couple will be (I'm not saying no nurturing focus, let me be clear, just less than a 'typical' lesbian couple).

Plus, and this has no stats to back it up, just personal observance, homosexual men seem to be in monogamous relationships less often than lesbian women are. Being 'single' or on the market, tends to lend to a leaner physique.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by SerryahView Post

Likely due to a lot of things and NOT the "they eat too much and don't get enough exercise" BS that the majority usually spout off.
.

Oh then please enlighten us? What is the reason?
 
petros
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Male tendency to want to seek new sexual partners and seek adventure, equals a propensity to remain fit.

Sh*t! Are you saying I keep healthy to look good to others only and not to have the best odds of protecting myself, my family and my sources of food and shelter?

It's all about lust and nothing more?
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SerryahView Post

Likely due to a lot of things and NOT the "they eat too much and don't get enough exercise" BS that the majority usually spout off.

There are always those among us who will try to find a complicated solution to a simple problem, but then I guess that's why people get ripped off for $1.5 million and to their chagrin still have the problem.
 
petros
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I bet it's hormonal.
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Sh*t! Are you saying I keep healthy to look good to others only and not to have the best odds of protecting myself, my family and my sources of food and shelter?

It's all about lust and nothing more?

I never said that at all, no. Just like women getting 'fat' isn't just about nurturing.

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

I bet it's hormonal.

lol... isn't most of human behaviour?
 
petros
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No. Not at all.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has awarded $1.5 million to study biological and social factors for why “three-quarters” of lesbians are obese and why gay males are not, calling it an issue of “high public-health significance.”
Brigham and Women’s Hospital in Boston, Mass., has received two grants administered by NIH’s Eunice Kennedy Shriver National Institute of Child Health and Human Development (NICHD) to study the relationship between sexual orientation and obesity.
“Obesity is one of the most critical public health issues affecting the U.S. today,” the description of the grant reads. “Racial and socioeconomic disparities in the determinants, distribution, and consequences of obesity are receiving increasing attention.”
“[H]owever, one area that is only beginning to be recognized is the striking interplay of gender and sexual orientation in obesity disparities,” it states. “It is now well-established that women of minority sexual orientation are disproportionately affected by the obesity epidemic, with it continues.
“In stark contrast, among men, heterosexual males have nearly double the risk of obesity compared to gay males.”

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Hmmm... I immagine they're fat for the same reasons anyone else is fat?
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Hmmm... I immagine they're fat for the same reasons anyone else is fat?

Exactly. I have a friend who is married to another woman. She is in great shape and we often talk about our latest fitness routines. However her wife is not so much at all. I am trying to be nice as they are both great people.

They are people. Some are going to be in good shape and some aren't like any other people. Why $1.5 Million to answer what is so obvious?

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

There are always those among us who will try to find a complicated solution to a simple problem, but then I guess that's why people get ripped off for $1.5 million and to their chagrin still have the problem.

It is called PORK. Government waste and nothing more. Peel back everything and you will find a donor somewhere in this I am sure.
 
Sal
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I think there is a tendency in our society to live for the moment.

IF people were to view themselves as a bag of chemicals fueled by other chemicals that they consume and then keep in mind that how those chemicals interact will determine health and life expectancy...they would make better choices more consistently.

I also think Karrie has hit on another aspect as has Petros.

It's a combination of factors that are complex but JLM has a valid point too... calories in, calories burned.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Exactly. I have a friend who is married to another woman. She is in great shape and we often talk about our latest fitness routines. However her wife is not so much at all. I am trying to be nice as they are both great people.

They are people. Some are going to be in good shape and some aren't like any other people. Why $1.5 Million to answer what is so obvious?.

Exactly so although the difference in proportion is interesting.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post


Exactly so although the difference in proportion is interesting.

It shouldn't be too interesting. Many couples are opposite in regards to weight for one reason or other.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

It shouldn't be too interesting. Many couples are opposite in regards to weight for one reason or other.

But why would the majority of female gays be morbidly obese and the majority of gay males at a healthy weight unless that matched the heterosexual population...what would cause that?

I know there is a joke in here somewhere about them both obese gays and male heteros being with a female partner but I won't go there
 
JLM
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

But why would the majority of female gays be morbidly obese and the majority of gay males at a healthy weight unless that matched the heterosexual population...what would cause that?

I know there is a joke in here somewhere about them both obese gays and male heteros being with a female partner but I won't go there

I'm wondering about the stature of people who insist the solution to fat is complicated. Do you suppose they themselves are fat and feel the need for a way to justify it. (Being politically correct is not #1 on my list of important things to be) -
 
Machjo
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I knew one man who was obese supposedly through no fault of his own. He'd been exposed to high doses of radiation in his mother's womb since she lived near a nuclear test site in the USA decades ago (he was in his 60's). But supposedly it had created an abnormally slow metabolism.

While there could be many reasons for which one is overweight, I can't see how they'b be different based on sexual orientation. He was straight, but how would his orientation affect the impact of radiation on his metabolism?
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

But why would the majority of female gays be morbidly obese and the majority of gay males at a healthy weight unless that matched the heterosexual population...what would cause that?

I think JLM answered it quite clearly... as did you. Calories in, calories burned. That is the bottom line. The study is not needed. There is no public demand or need... therefore the government will step in, per usual, and pay $1.5 Million for it. $1.5 MILLION!

Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

I knew one man who was obese supposedly through no fault of his own. He'd been exposed to high doses of radiation in his mother's womb since she lived near a nuclear test site in the USA decades ago (he was in his 60's). But supposedly it had created an abnormally slow metabolism.

That is true too. And he is an exception and not the rule. All of our metabolism rates are varied. AND we can increase our metabolism rates if we so choose.

But you know what... I simply don't believe that is the reason for his obesity. I believe he told you that but I think it is BS.
 
Blackleaf
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Three quarters of lesbians are obese because no man will look at them twice. That's why they're lesbians.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

Three quarters of lesbians are obese because no man will look at them twice. That's why they're lesbians.

So if a man looked at them twice, they would lose weight and become heterosexual? holy wow

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I think JLM answered it quite clearly... as did you. Calories in, calories burned. That is the bottom line. The study is not needed. There is no public demand or need... therefore the government will step in, per usual, and pay $1.5 Million for it. $1.5 MILLION!

And 1.5 million is just what I need to retire right now...

There are societal and emotional components that factor into obesity. I do believe there is such a thing as food addiction which is generated by certain stressors such as rape, molestation etc. Both of my friends that are/were morbidly obese were molested as children. One has had a lapband put in place and she lost weight for a while. However, the food itself and avoidance of it is not really the root problem therefore she once again began to eat and put all of the weight back on. Now she purges (bulimia) and can remain chubby instead of morbidly obese. To my mind it is equally dangerous.

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That is true too. And he is an exception and not the rule. All of our metabolism rates are varied. AND we can increase our metabolism rates if we so choose.

But you know what... I simply don't believe that is the reason for his obesity. I believe he told you that but I think it is BS.

I don't believe it either. There are a gazillion excuses for being fat and why one can't lose weight. In reality there are very very few individuals who are pre-disposed to weight because of a bizarre medical condition.

Sure everyone's metabolism is different. For most of my life I could consume more food than most and still stay pencil thin. Now I can't and that is just reality. I have to keep my calorie intake at 1500 calories a day to maintain a healthy weight. Or I could just say I don't eat much and pack the pounds on. It's all about choice.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I think JLM answered it quite clearly... as did you. Calories in, calories burned. That is the bottom line. The study is not needed. There is no public demand or need... therefore the government will step in, per usual, and pay $1.5 Million for it. $1.5 MILLION!



That is true too. And he is an exception and not the rule. All of our metabolism rates are varied. AND we can increase our metabolism rates if we so choose.

But you know what... I simply don't believe that is the reason for his obesity. I believe he told you that but I think it is BS.

He did show other symptoms too though. His metabolism was sow slow he'd sometimes fall asleep at meetings. Sure he could be lying, but from I could observe and knew of him, it was probably true.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

He did show other symptoms too though. His metabolism was sow slow he'd sometimes fall asleep at meetings. Sure he could be lying, but from I could observe and knew of him, it was probably true.

Lying is probably to strong of a word. He may believe it as well. I used to attend long meetings and there was always someone nodding off. I caught myself a few times I must admit and I sure didn't live near a nuclear test site.

Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

So if a man looked at them twice, they would lose weight and become heterosexual? holy wow


And 1.5 million is just what I need to retire right now...

That would go a long way with me too!

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There are societal and emotional components that factor into obesity. I do believe there is such a thing as food addiction which is generated by certain stressors such as rape, molestation etc. Both of my friends that are/were morbidly obese were molested as children. One has had a lapband put in place and she lost weight for a while. However, the food itself and avoidance of it is not really the root problem therefore she once again began to eat and put all of the weight back on. Now she purges (bulimia) and can remain chubby instead of morbidly obese. To my mind it is equally dangerous.

I agree that people lean on food as a crutch. Plus all the most tasty foods are usually bad when eaten constantly. I think it is a people problem as opposed to a GLBT problem.


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Sure everyone's metabolism is different. For most of my life I could consume more food than most and still stay pencil thin. Now I can't and that is just reality. I have to keep my calorie intake at 1500 calories a day to maintain a healthy weight. Or I could just say I don't eat much and pack the pounds on. It's all about choice.

I was lucky as well for most of my life. As a kid I could eat whatever I wanted and not gain weight. I even used those weight gain drinks. Nothing. Age took care of that. Now I work out constantly and I am able to stay fit. However when I do fall into a rut I will gain. I did P90X three times in a row. It beat up my body so I gave it a break and I gained some of what I lost. Now I am doing Tapout X-Treme and I am losing the weight again. It simply takes effort, sometimes a lot of effort. It didn't take $1.5 Million to figure it out.
 
karrie
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

I think JLM answered it quite clearly... as did you. Calories in, calories burned. That is the bottom line. The study is not needed. There is no public demand or need... therefore the government will step in, per usual, and pay $1.5 Million for it. $1.5 MILLION!

I find it interesting that the medical community is in quite glaring disagreement with you on this, and that's likely why government is stepping in and funding studies... trying to find the magic key to unlock the underlying issue.

See, the medical community had thought for a really long time, and tackled it for a really long time, from the 'calories in, calories out' point of view. And society kept getting fatter and fatter. And even when under direct medical care, some people kept getting fatter and fatter. Now specialists in the field, people like Doctor Sharma at the U of A, are finding that the issue is really much more complex and problematic than calories in, calories out.

Government is finding more and more, that obesity is the issue they need to deal with in order to keep their tax base healthy and working. It is such a pressing issue that this study, is peanuts. The combined U of Alberta funding for obesity related studies alone, is $35million. For one university, in a province with a comparatively small population.

Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

Three quarters of lesbians are obese because no man will look at them twice. That's why they're lesbians.

I bet that's what you have to tell yourself.
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

Three quarters of lesbians are obese because no man will look at them twice. That's why they're lesbians.

lmao Utter nonsense, but it's fracking funny!

I agree that there are more reasons why people become obese than one could guess. Reasons such as engineered foods that trigger the hunger sensation, simple overeating, what people eat, metabolic problems, lack of activity, genetic disposition, pressure from marketing to be thin that causes anxiety, stopping smoking, things like processed sugar and salt that inhibit the sense of being full, etc.
BTW, I noticed that the study is concerned with Americans only. Seeing as a huge proportion of Americans are overweight or obese to begin with (33.3% are overweight and 35.9% are obese; totaling almost 70% according to 2010 stats as well as the stats saying that 4% more women than men are overweight or obese), the study's not at all surprising.
 
Sal
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Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

lmao Utter nonsense, but it's fracking funny!

I agree that there are more reasons why people become obese than one could guess. Reasons such as engineered foods that trigger the hunger sensation, simple overeating, what people eat, metabolic problems, lack of activity, genetic disposition, pressure from marketing to be thin that causes anxiety, stopping smoking, things like processed sugar and salt that inhibit the sense of being full, etc.
BTW, I noticed that the study is concerned with Americans only. Seeing as a huge proportion of Americans are overweight or obese to begin with (33.3% are overweight and 35.9% are obese; totaling almost 70% according to 2010 stats as well as the stats saying that 4% more women than men are overweight or obese), the study's not at all surprising.

Agreed. But if everyone were placed on a diet that would burn more than what they ate they would still lose weight even those that have messed up their metabolic rate by attempting every diet known to man and then yoyo-ing. One can not gain weight on no calories. If they could we would have an answer to world hunger.

So really the study will determine why people can not stick to the number of healthy calories that their body needs in order to maintain a healthy weight. A million isn't that much in the scheme of things but I don't think it will tell them anything that doctor Oz does not tell his obese audience everyday. calories in...burn off or gain weight.
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by SalView Post

Agreed. But if everyone were placed on a diet that would burn more than what they ate they would still lose weight even those that have messed up their metabolic rate by attempting every diet known to man and then yoyo-ing. One can not gain weight on no calories. If they could we would have an answer to world hunger.

Well, that's fairly obvious.

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So really the study will determine why people can not stick to the number of healthy calories that their body needs in order to maintain a healthy weight. A million isn't that much in the scheme of things but I don't think it will tell them anything that doctor Oz does not tell his obese audience everyday. calories in...burn off or gain weight.

I gave quite a few reasons why people cannot stick to their healthy weights. If I spent more time on it, I could come up with more reasons, too.
I think it's just odd that they choose to study homosexuals rather than say another country's traits. So the study seems to have an obscure aim rather than being one that could benefit everyone equally.
 
Tonington
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Racial and socio-economic traits have been investigated as determinants of obesity. Obesity costs Americans a lot of healthcare dollars, Canada too. The study is looking at more factors to study the epidemiology of obesity using a gender model with multiple levels and systems. They called it biopsychosocial. These types of longitudinal studies bear fruit, with repeated measures helping identify the other factors occurring simultaneously that are not so easy to determine.

If it was so easy top just tell people they are being unhealthy, the epidemic wouldn't be occurring. So is it better to do nothing than to look for possible solutions? I tend to think not.
 
JLM
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Upon pondering the situation I would be willing to bet that Lesbians are fat for exactly the same reason other people are fat, so I'm beginning to wonder what nefarious motives those doing the study had! As if pissing away $1.5 million isn't nefarious enough already!

Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

Three quarters of lesbians are obese because no man will look at them twice. That's why they're lesbians.

So the odd one a man might look at 10 or 15 times would be "skin and bones"..............scary concept!-
 
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