Australia has gone to the dogs!

[Stretch]

would've preferred this to have been in the news forum, how ever..........mods/owners?

Police warn victims of bikie gangs not to press charges
POLICE are encouraging victims of bikie crimes to walk away because perpetrators might exact revenge if taken to court.
The Courier-Mail has uncovered cases of Queenslanders innocently caught in the web of outlaw motorcycle gangs being advised not to lodge complaints.
A cancer sufferer who had an outboard motor stolen was told by a detective to "forget it" because the suspect was a violent bikie.
Victims reporting assault, theft and death threats were all warned of reprisals if they pressed for charges to be laid.
A Brisbane locksmith who was first warned off pursuing complaints of death threats from competitors because of their Hells Angels links was asked by an officer: "Can you lay bricks? Because it might be time to get a new job".

The Courier-Mail is aware of another case involving a violent assault by a man who Gold Coast police later identified as a bikie gang associate.

The cases highlight the police service's own concerns about its ability to contain bikie violence and intimidation
But victims said police caution risked sending the community a message that bikies were afforded a certain level of impunity because of their fearsome criminal connections.
Former social worker Tony Davis, 52, who has incurable bone marrow cancer that has left him blind in one eye, reported his Mercury outboard motor stolen from his Edens Landing home on September 12 last year.
A Loganholme-based detective called two months later to say the suspected thief was "a violent character who has an 'M.O.' for this sort of thing," Mr Davis said. "She said he belonged to an outlaw motorcycle club and that I should forget it, don't worry about it, go buy another one."
Police warn victims of bikie gangs not to press charges | The Courier-Mail

Hold onto your firearms everybody....ya gunna need em

 

[bobnoorduyn]

would've preferred this to have been in the news forum, how ever..........mods/owners?

Police warn victims of bikie gangs not to press charges
POLICE are encouraging victims of bikie crimes to walk away because perpetrators might exact revenge if taken to court.
The Courier-Mail has uncovered cases of Queenslanders innocently caught in the web of outlaw motorcycle gangs being advised not to lodge complaints.
A cancer sufferer who had an outboard motor stolen was told by a detective to "forget it" because the suspect was a violent bikie.
Victims reporting assault, theft and death threats were all warned of reprisals if they pressed for charges to be laid.
A Brisbane locksmith who was first warned off pursuing complaints of death threats from competitors because of their Hells Angels links was asked by an officer: "Can you lay bricks? Because it might be time to get a new job".

The Courier-Mail is aware of another case involving a violent assault by a man who Gold Coast police later identified as a bikie gang associate.

The cases highlight the police service's own concerns about its ability to contain bikie violence and intimidation
But victims said police caution risked sending the community a message that bikies were afforded a certain level of impunity because of their fearsome criminal connections.
Former social worker Tony Davis, 52, who has incurable bone marrow cancer that has left him blind in one eye, reported his Mercury outboard motor stolen from his Edens Landing home on September 12 last year.
A Loganholme-based detective called two months later to say the suspected thief was "a violent character who has an 'M.O.' for this sort of thing," Mr Davis said. "She said he belonged to an outlaw motorcycle club and that I should forget it, don't worry about it, go buy another one."
Police warn victims of bikie gangs not to press charges | The Courier-Mail

Hold onto your firearms everybody....ya gunna need em

Too late, Aussies followed the pack in disarmament, though not to the extent of the UK, but enough to embolden the criminals.

 

[captain morgan]

What the Aussies really need is a long gun registry... That'll fix everything and keep the bikers in check

 

[Nuggler]

Too late, Aussies followed the pack in disarmament, though not to the extent of the UK, but enough to embolden the criminals.

Agreed; and strange too, as Aussies are known to be a tough, independent lot.

Was the gun violence in Australia bad enough to warrant a gun ban?

 

[taxslave]

Agreed; and strange too, as Aussies are known to be a tough, independent lot.

Was the gun violence in Australia bad enough to warrant a gun ban?

Nope but it cut down on the number of guns law abiding taxpayers own. Like here it hasn't had the same effect on the criminal element.

 

[bill barilko]

What's to be expected in a country founded for and by criminals?

 

[EagleSmack]

Agreed; and strange too, as Aussies are known to be a tough, independent lot.

Was the gun violence in Australia bad enough to warrant a gun ban?

Ever hear of the Australian Biker Massacre or Milpera Massacre? Seven killed including a 14 year old girl selling raffle tickets... 28 wounded.

 

[damngrumpy]

First of all looks like there is a problem alright, but to generalize and say violent
motorcyclists is a bit over the top. First of all even when it comes to Hells Angels
not all are violent. I think there is a bit of propaganda here, although I also think
there is a valid problem.
The police are afraid? You would think so, in view of the fact they are not willing
to deal with violent criminals. This is not about bikers its about criminals and those
who steal other people's property. It is also a case where the law in not following
the times and making sure the public has a measure of protection. The problems
here go way beyond biker gangs it strikes at the heart internationally of a lack of
justice

 

[EagleSmack]

First of all even when it comes to Hells Angels
not all are violent.

Are you kidding me?

 

[petros]

Are you kidding me?

He's right.

 

[damngrumpy]

I do know some Hells Angels, not closely or dinner friends but I know them
and they have done no violent deed. In today's world if I were walking down
the street in the city tonight, and there were RCMP on one side of the street
and some Hells Angels coming to meet me on the other I would walk to
meet the Hells Angels much safer than the police today. Cops are no longer
predictable Hells Angels are, they don't bother you if you don't bother them.
During my days as a night club manager I never had a problem with them that
got out of hand even when some couldn't come in because they were barred.

There is some serious truths and some very wild myths out there about the lads
and people succumb to the fear factor when their name is mentioned.
These myths are spread far and wide like the stories about John Dillinger. Now
John was a bad man but he didn't commit all the robberies they said he did, it
was propaganda at its finest

 

[JLM]

Nope but it cut down on the number of guns law abiding taxpayers own. Like here it hasn't had the same effect on the criminal element.

I think it's boomerangs more than guns you have to watch out for in Aussie!

 

[Cliffy]

Australia has gone to the dogs!

Shouldn't that read Dingos?

 

[bobnoorduyn]

Are you kidding me?

He's not kidding, he just doesn't know, we had one down the street, they are like dogs, they don't sh!t where they eat, the problem is, the competetors sh!t on them where they eat. Each chapter does what they do, best to keep your distance, and keep it loaded, and never let them know what you know. They pretend to play nice, but they really don't.

 

[Stretch]

Agreed; and strange too, as Aussies are known to be a tough, independent lot.

Was the gun violence in Australia bad enough to warrant a gun ban?

No, the gun violence wasnt that bad. The bikie shootout wasnt the trouble. It was a false flag event that happend in Port Arther in 1996 that was the clincher. Do a search on this site for Port Arthur, I have posted quite a bit about it over the years. As a result of PA gun confiscation legislation was pushed thru parliamemt in just 2 weeks

 

[Stretch]

After a political attack on Joe Vaills' independent investigation of the Port Arthur massacre, Joe has submitted some "never before released" details to further substantiate his research.
* One hour before the massacre commenced, the only two policemen on the Tasmanian Peninsula were decoyed to a remote location at Saltwater River by anonymous caller reporting a big stash of heroin. There was no heroin, and four minutes after the two policemen reported their arrival at Saltwater by radio, the shooting started in the Broad Arrow Cafe. The drive from Saltwater to Port Arthur is a minimum of 30 mins. The mass murder lasted only 17 minutes from start to finish.
* The shooter in the Broad Arrow cafe fired from his right hip at an average range of 12 feet without the benefit of a laser sight. Only 29 rounds were used to kill or injure a total of 32 people, accuracy and speed equivalent to the top 1% of counter-terrorist marksmen. Martin Bryant always fired his Webley Osprey air rifle from the left shoulder, because he is and always has been a left handed shooter.
* In sworn statements to the police, eyewitness Roganovic and Horrocks confirmed that the shooter exited through the front door of the Broad Arrow Cafe carrying a weapon, while a third witness confirmed that the weapon was held in the shooter's right hand. This testimony is in direct conflict with the fake video footage obtained direct from America by the Tasmanian Police Service, who entered it as evidence in the Supreme Court against Matrin Bryant.
and this from Barry Unsworth, New South Wales Premier...In 1988 Australian newspapers reported New South Wales politician Barry Unsworth's claim that, "there would be no effective gun control in Australia until there was a massacre in Tasmania" the "massacre" didnt happen till 1996!!

 

[EagleSmack]

Cops are no longer
predictable Hells Angels are, they don't bother you if you don't bother them.

Because they are an organized crime syndicate. They are into selling drugs, weapons, prostitution, just like any mob. The Italian mob wouldn't bother you ether if you didn't bother them. It did not make them any less violent.

He's not kidding, he just doesn't know, we had one down the street, they are like dogs, they don't sh!t where they eat, the problem is, the competetors sh!t on them where they eat. Each chapter does what they do, best to keep your distance, and keep it loaded, and never let them know what you know. They pretend to play nice, but they really don't.

Exactly. Owe them money and see how nice they become.

 

[Cliffy]

Because they are an organized crime syndicate. They are into selling drugs, weapons, prostitution, just like any mob. The Italian mob wouldn't bother you ether if you didn't bother them. It did not make them any less violent.

The police are an organized gang, some indulge in criminal activity and some of them bother and/or kill people just because they can.

 

[JLM]

The police are an organized gang, some indulge in criminal activity and some of them bother and/or kill people just because they can.

Yep, albeit it a small minority.

 

[EagleSmack]

The police are an organized gang, some indulge in criminal activity and some of them bother and/or kill people just because they can.

Outlaw Biker gangs ALL deal in crime one way or another. They are not a riding organization. You are not joining an outlaw biker gang to ride on weekends.