IPCC Admits Its Past Reports Were Junk

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On June 27, the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) issued a statement saying it had "complete[d] the process of implementation of a set of recommendations issued in August 2010 by the InterAcademy Council (IAC), the group created by the world's science academies to provide advice to international bodies."

Hidden behind this seemingly routine update on bureaucratic processes is an astonishing and entirely unreported story. The IPCC is the world's most prominent source of alarmist predictions and claims about man-made global warming. Its four reports (a fifth report is scheduled for release in various parts in 2013 and 2014) are cited by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) in the U.S. and by national academies of science around the world as "proof" that the global warming of the past five or so decades was both man-made and evidence of a mounting crisis.

If the IPCC's reports were flawed, as a many global warming "skeptics" have long claimed, then the scientific footing of the man-made global warming movement -- the environmental movement's "mother of all environmental scares" -- is undermined. The Obama administration's war on coal may be unnecessary. Billions of dollars in subsidies to solar and wind may have been wasted. Trillions of dollars of personal income may have been squandered worldwide in campaigns to "fix" a problem that didn't really exist.

The "recommendations" issued by the IAC were not minor adjustments to a fundamentally sound scientific procedure. Here are some of the findings of the IAC's 2010 report.

The IAC reported that IPCC lead authors fail to give "due consideration ... to properly documented alternative views" (p. 20), fail to "provide detailed written responses to the most significant review issues identified by the Review Editors" (p. 21), and are not "consider[ing] review comments carefully and document[ing] their responses" (p. 22). In plain English: the IPCC reports are not peer-reviewed.

The IAC found that "the IPCC has no formal process or criteria for selecting authors" and "the selection criteria seemed arbitrary to many respondents" (p. eighteen). Government officials appoint scientists from their countries and "do not always nominate the best scientists from among those who volunteer, either because they do not know who these scientists are or because political considerations are given more weight than scientific qualifications" (p. eighteen). In other words: authors are selected from a "club" of scientists and nonscientists who agree with the alarmist perspective favored by politicians.

The rewriting of the Summary for Policy Makers by politicians and environmental activists -- a problem called out by global warming realists for many years, but with little apparent notice by the media or policymakers -- was plainly admitted, perhaps for the first time by an organization in the "mainstream" of alarmist climate change thinking. "[M]any were concerned that reinterpretations of the assessment's findings, suggested in the final Plenary, might be politically motivated," the IAC auditors wrote. The scientists they interviewed commonly found the Synthesis Report "too political" (p. 25).

Really? Too political? We were told by everyone -- environmentalists, reporters, politicians, even celebrities -- that the IPCC reports were science, not politics. Now we are told that even the scientists involved in writing the reports -- remember, they are all true believers in man-made global warming themselves -- felt the summaries were "too political."

Here is how the IAC described how the IPCC arrives at the "consensus of scientists":

Plenary sessions to approve a Summary for Policy Makers last for several days and commonly end with an all-night meeting. Thus, the individuals with the most endurance or the countries that have large delegations can end up having the most influence on the report (p. 25).

How can such a process possibly be said to capture or represent the "true consensus of scientists"?

Another problem documented by the IAC is the use of phony "confidence intervals" and estimates of "certainty" in the Summary for Policy Makers (pp. 27-34). Those of us who study the IPCC reports knew this was make-believe when we first saw it in 2007. Work by J. Scott Armstrong on the science of forecasting makes it clear that scientists cannot simply gather around a table and vote on how confident they are about some prediction, and then affix a number to it such as "80% confident." Yet that is how the IPCC proceeds.

The IAC authors say it is "not an appropriate way to characterize uncertainty" (p. 34), a huge understatement. Unfortunately, the IAC authors recommend an equally fraudulent substitute, called "level of understanding scale," which is more mush-mouth for "consensus."

The IAC authors warn, also on page 34, that "conclusions will likely be stated so vaguely as to make them impossible to refute, and therefore statements of 'very high confidence' will have little substantive value." Yes, but that doesn't keep the media and environmental activists from citing them over and over again as "proof" that global warming is man-made and a crisis...even if that's not really what the reports' authors are saying.
Finally, the IAC noted, "the lack of a conflict of interest and disclosure policy for IPCC leaders and Lead Authors was a concern raised by a number of individuals who were interviewed by the Committee or provided written input" as well as "the practice of scientists responsible for writing IPCC assessments reviewing their own work. The Committee did not investigate the basis of these claims, which is beyond the mandate of this review" (p. 46).

Too bad, because these are both big issues in light of recent revelations that a majority of the authors and contributors to some chapters of the IPCC reports are environmental activists, not scientists at all. That's a structural problem with the IPCC that could dwarf the big problems already reported.

So on June 27, nearly two years after these bombshells fell (without so much as a raised eyebrow by the mainstream media in the U.S. -- go ahead and try Googling it), the IPCC admits that it was all true and promises to do better for its next report. Nothing to see here...keep on moving.

Well I say, hold on, there! The news release means that the IAC report was right. That, in turn, means that the first four IPCC reports were, in fact, unreliable. Not just "possibly flawed" or "could have been improved," but likely to be wrong and even fraudulent.

It means that all of the "endorsements" of the climate consensus made by the world's national academies of science -- which invariably refer to the reports of the IPCC as their scientific basis -- were based on false or unreliable data and therefore should be disregarded or revised. It means that the EPA's "endangerment finding" -- its claim that carbon dioxide is a pollutant and threat to human health -- was wrong and should be overturned.
And what of the next IPCC report, due out in 2013 and 2014? The near-final drafts of that report have been circulating for months already. They were written by scientists chosen by politicians rather than on the basis of merit; many of them were reviewing their own work and were free to ignore the questions and comments of people with whom they disagree. Instead of "confidence," we will get "level of understanding scales" that are just as meaningless.

And on this basis we should transform the world's economy to run on breezes and sunbeams?

In 2010, we learned that much of what we thought we knew about global warming was compromised and probably false. On June 27, the culprits confessed and promised to do better. But where do we go to get our money back?


http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/ipcc_admits_its_past_reports_were_junk.html

h/t sda
 

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Have always said it was a hoax and have been referred, with others, several names now we need to find a good name for the ones who believed everything their heard about Global Warming.
 

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In Plainer English,. B A L........derdash. Why would it be peer reviewed. It is not the work of a scientist but the report of the work of thousands of scientists - all of whom can comment on the Reports.

The "American Thinker," no less. I am impressed.
 

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In Plainer English,. B A L........derdash. Why would it be peer reviewed. It is not the work of a scientist but the report of the work of thousands of scientists - all of whom can comment on the Reports.

The "American Thinker," no less. I am impressed.


Start refuting the report, or are you just going to do a blanket bullshyte and leave it at that?
 

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Hmm, figures American Thinker wouldn't highlight other areas from the report. Such as "The Committee found that the IPCC assessment process has been successful overall."

Hmm, that's weird. What else did they leave out? "Drafts of the Fourth Assessment Report drew 90,000 review comments (an average of a few thousand comments per chapter), stretching the ability of Lead Authors to respond thoughtfully and fully to each."

Maybe that's why not all comments were addressed? Hence the need for a better management and quality structure to deal with the scope and size of the job at hand.

Anything else? Oh yes, uncertainty. Working Group 1, that is the group which produces the physical science basis report, used the scientific conventional approach to uncertainty, and used a quantitative likelihood scale. Anything called extremely likely was an event with 95% probability an event would occur. The IPCC for whatever reason still wants to use qualitative statements in place of a quantitative statement about the uncertainty. Probably because the politicians want it in dumb speak they can understand.

It's particularly ironic, well no more like par for the course actually, that a publication like American Thinker who highlights the need for greater transparency, would be so one-sided with their depiction of the report. Wasn't that one of the complaints from the fake skeptics about the review process? :lol:

I for one am glad to see the IPCC making many of these changes. The physical science has been solid, and the other working groups have made mistakes which most lay readers don't fully understand. By that I mean when there is an error in the IPCC report about the timing of Himalayan glaciers melting out-that's Working Group 2- most people won't differentiate that from the very strong physical basis reports coming from Working Group 1 which deal with among other things, attribution of climate change.

But I don't for one second think this will be enough to stop the baseless attacks by the most vocal pseudo-skeptics.
 

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Here it is for you, Gerry. I am not refuting the report since there is no need to. The real report was a valuable contribution that contained nothing the "American Thinker" claimed.


The "American Thinker needs some cognitive help.


It was all in the link, btw. So what should I be refuting.



The Committee found that the IPCC assessment process has been successful overall. However, the world has changed considerably since the creation of the IPCC (…)
The IPCC must continue to adapt to these changing conditions in order to continue serving society well in the future.
Their key recommendations appear sensible and constructive:
KEY RECOMMENDATIONS
The Committee’s main recommendations relate to governance and management, the review process, characterizing and communicating uncertainty, communications, and transparency in the assessment process.
Recommendation: The IPCC should establish an Executive Committee to act on its behalf between Plenary sessions. The membership of the Committee should include the IPCC Chair, the Working Group Co-chairs, the senior member of the Secretariat, and 3 independent members, including some from outside of the climate community. Members would be elected by the Plenary and serve until their successors are in place.
Recommendation: The IPCC should elect an Executive Director to lead the Secretariat and handle day-to-day operations of the organization. The term of this senior scientist should be limited to the timeframe of one assessment.
Recommendation: The IPCC should encourage Review Editors to fully exercise their authority to ensure that reviewers’ comments are adequately considered by the authors and that genuine controversies are adequately reflected in the report.
Recommendation: The IPCC should adopt a more targeted and effective process for responding to reviewer comments. In such a process, Review Editors would prepare a written summary of the most significant issues raised by reviewers shortly after review comments have been received. Authors would be required to provide detailed written responses to the most significant review issues identified by the Review Editors, abbreviated responses to all non-editorial comments, and no written responses to editorial comments.
Recommendation: All Working Groups should use the qualitative level-of-understanding scale in their Summary for Policy Makers and Technical Summary, as suggested in IPCC’s uncertainty guidance for the Fourth Assessment Report. This scale may be supplemented by a quantitative probability scale, if appropriate.
Recommendation: Quantitative probabilities (as in the likelihood scale) should be used to describe the probability of well-defined outcomes only when there is sufficient evidence. Authors should indicate the basis for assigning a probability to an outcome or event (e.g., based on measurement, expert judgment, and/or model runs).
(See e.g Gavin’s comment regarding this point in an in-line response at RC here. It is certainly important to be very clear in explaining what the basis is for assigning a certain level of confidence or probability, a point also made by Judith Curry.)
Recommendation: The IPCC should complete and implement a communications strategy that emphasizes transparency, rapid and thoughtful responses, and relevance to stakeholders, and which includes guidelines about who can speak on behalf of IPCC and how to represent the organization appropriately.
The Committee recommends that the IPCC establish criteria for selecting participants for the scoping meeting, where preliminary decisions about the scope and outline of the assessment reports are made; for selecting the IPCC Chair, the Working Group co-chairs, and other members of the Bureau; and for selecting the authors of the assessment reports. The Committee also recommends that Lead Authors document that they have considered the full range of thoughtful views, even if these views do not appear in the assessment report.
 

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Hmm, figures American Thinker wouldn't highlight other areas from the report. Such as "The Committee found that the IPCC assessment process has been successful overall."

Hmm, that's weird. What else did they leave out? "Drafts of the Fourth Assessment Report drew 90,000 review comments (an average of a few thousand comments per chapter), stretching the ability of Lead Authors to respond thoughtfully and fully to each."

Maybe that's why not all comments were addressed? Hence the need for a better management and quality structure to deal with the scope and size of the job at hand.

Anything else? Oh yes, uncertainty. Working Group 1, that is the group which produces the physical science basis report, used the scientific conventional approach to uncertainty, and used a quantitative likelihood scale. Anything called extremely likely was an event with 95% probability an event would occur. The IPCC for whatever reason still wants to use qualitative statements in place of a quantitative statement about the uncertainty. Probably because the politicians want it in dumb speak they can understand.

It's particularly ironic, well no more like par for the course actually, that a publication like American Thinker who highlights the need for greater transparency, would be so one-sided with their depiction of the report. Wasn't that one of the complaints from the fake skeptics about the review process? :lol:

I for one am glad to see the IPCC making many of these changes. The physical science has been solid, and the other working groups have made mistakes which most lay readers don't fully understand. By that I mean when there is an error in the IPCC report about the timing of Himalayan glaciers melting out-that's Working Group 2- most people won't differentiate that from the very strong physical basis reports coming from Working Group 1 which deal with among other things, attribution of climate change.

But I don't for one second think this will be enough to stop the baseless attacks by the most vocal pseudo-skeptics.

The IPCC was formed in 1988- 24 years ago. Seems they are rather slow about certain things-
 

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Here it is for you, Gerry. I am not refuting the report since there is no need to. The real report was a valuable contribution that contained nothing the "American Thinker" claimed.


The "American Thinker needs some cognitive help.


It was all in the link, btw. So what should I be refuting.




Your link is a blog. try again.
 

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Here it is for you, Gerry. I am not refuting the report since there is no need to. The real report was a valuable contribution that contained nothing the "American Thinker" claimed.


The "American Thinker needs some cognitive help.


It was all in the link, btw. So what should I be refuting.



The Committee found that the IPCC assessment process has been successful overall. However, the world has changed considerably since the creation of the IPCC (…)
The IPCC must continue to adapt to these changing conditions in order to continue serving society well in the future.
Their key recommendations appear sensible and constructive:
KEY RECOMMENDATIONS
The Committee’s main recommendations relate to governance and management, the review process, characterizing and communicating uncertainty, communications, and transparency in the assessment process.
Recommendation: The IPCC should establish an Executive Committee to act on its behalf between Plenary sessions. The membership of the Committee should include the IPCC Chair, the Working Group Co-chairs, the senior member of the Secretariat, and 3 independent members, including some from outside of the climate community. Members would be elected by the Plenary and serve until their successors are in place.
Recommendation: The IPCC should elect an Executive Director to lead the Secretariat and handle day-to-day operations of the organization. The term of this senior scientist should be limited to the timeframe of one assessment.
Recommendation: The IPCC should encourage Review Editors to fully exercise their authority to ensure that reviewers’ comments are adequately considered by the authors and that genuine controversies are adequately reflected in the report.
Recommendation: The IPCC should adopt a more targeted and effective process for responding to reviewer comments. In such a process, Review Editors would prepare a written summary of the most significant issues raised by reviewers shortly after review comments have been received. Authors would be required to provide detailed written responses to the most significant review issues identified by the Review Editors, abbreviated responses to all non-editorial comments, and no written responses to editorial comments.
Recommendation: All Working Groups should use the qualitative level-of-understanding scale in their Summary for Policy Makers and Technical Summary, as suggested in IPCC’s uncertainty guidance for the Fourth Assessment Report. This scale may be supplemented by a quantitative probability scale, if appropriate.
Recommendation: Quantitative probabilities (as in the likelihood scale) should be used to describe the probability of well-defined outcomes only when there is sufficient evidence. Authors should indicate the basis for assigning a probability to an outcome or event (e.g., based on measurement, expert judgment, and/or model runs).
(See e.g Gavin’s comment regarding this point in an in-line response at RC here. It is certainly important to be very clear in explaining what the basis is for assigning a certain level of confidence or probability, a point also made by Judith Curry.)
Recommendation: The IPCC should complete and implement a communications strategy that emphasizes transparency, rapid and thoughtful responses, and relevance to stakeholders, and which includes guidelines about who can speak on behalf of IPCC and how to represent the organization appropriately.
The Committee recommends that the IPCC establish criteria for selecting participants for the scoping meeting, where preliminary decisions about the scope and outline of the assessment reports are made; for selecting the IPCC Chair, the Working Group co-chairs, and other members of the Bureau; and for selecting the authors of the assessment reports. The Committee also recommends that Lead Authors document that they have considered the full range of thoughtful views, even if these views do not appear in the assessment report.

Translation: Yes we lied to the world numerous times but we promise not to (get caught) doing it again.
 

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The IPCC was formed in 1988- 24 years ago. Seems they are rather slow about certain things-

And much has changed since then, hence the need to update things...you don't think this has been the first change to the IPCC structure do you?

Have a look at the by-line of this document for example:
Appendix A to the Principles Governing IPCC Work
PROCEDURES FOR THE PREPARATION, REVIEW, ACCEPTANCE, ADOPTION,
APPROVAL AND PUBLICATION OF IPCC REPORTS
Adopted at the Fifteenth Session (San Jose, 15-18 April 1999) amended at the Twentieth Session
(Paris, 19-21 February 2003), Twenty-First Session (Vienna, 3 and 6-7 November 2003), Twenty-
Ninth Session (Geneva, 31 August-4 September 2008 , Thirty-Third Session (Abu Dhabi, 10-13 May
2011), Thirty-Fourth Session (Kampala, 18-19 November 2011) and Thirty-Fifth Session (Geneva,
6-9 June 2012)
It's a living process.

Translation: Yes we lied to the world numerous times but we promise not to (get caught) doing it again.
:roll:
 

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And much has changed since then, hence the need to update things...you don't think this has been the first change to the IPCC structure do you?

Have a look at the by-line of this document for example:
Appendix A to the Principles Governing IPCC Work
PROCEDURES FOR THE PREPARATION, REVIEW, ACCEPTANCE, ADOPTION,
APPROVAL AND PUBLICATION OF IPCC REPORTS
Adopted at the Fifteenth Session (San Jose, 15-18 April 1999) amended at the Twentieth Session
(Paris, 19-21 February 2003), Twenty-First Session (Vienna, 3 and 6-7 November 2003), Twenty-
Ninth Session (Geneva, 31 August-4 September 2008), Thirty-Third Session (Abu Dhabi, 10-13 May
2011), Thirty-Fourth Session (Kampala, 18-19 November 2011) and Thirty-Fifth Session (Geneva,
6-9 June 2012)
It's a living process.

I am not challenging CC - I am not challenging that GG is a factor in CC- What I am challenging is the lead agency for the world did not follow basic scientific protocols-Many scientists who contributed to IPCC reports have stated the same for years and were slammed publicy for questioning the God like Authority of the IPCC. As to evolving- I challenged their credibility - 24 years is quite some time to get their act together- And yes heads should roll.
 

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What I am challenging is the lead agency for the world did not follow basic scientific protocols-

That's not at all what the Interacademy report says.

Many scientists who contributed to IPCC reports have stated the same for year.

So, you're simply going to take one group of scientists word against another? Based on what? This report certainly doesn't say that.

As to evolving- I challenged their credibility - 24 years is quite some time to get their act together-

Did you not notice the number of amendments listed in the by-line I quoted for you?

I tell you what, the minute you find me one lead agency on this planet for anything that is without a single error, then I will join you in throwing this review process under the bus. Like I said, I'm glad to see them making changes. And like I said in not so many words, it won't stop those with an axe to grind. The thread title is ample evidence of that.
 

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That's not at all what the Interacademy report says.



So, you're simply going to take one group of scientists word against another? Based on what? This report certainly doesn't say that.



Did you not notice the number of amendments listed in the by-line I quoted for you?

I tell you what, the minute you find me one lead agency on this planet for anything that is without a single error, then I will join you in throwing this review process under the bus. Like I said, I'm glad to see them making changes. And like I said in not so many words, it won't stop those with an axe to grind. The thread title is ample evidence of that.

Not the point - They appear to have made some serious errors- That is my point- Do they appear to you to have been reasonable well organized with the checks and balances expected.