Is there anything fricken stupider

[JLM]

Than parliament sitting around the clock to ram through a bunch of bills? With the majority the bills are going to be passed one way or the other whether it takes a day a week or a month. What is the point of the opposition resisting? What is the point of Harper's panic? I've come to the conclusion we have 309 idiots in Ottawa!

 

[DurkaDurka]

Than parliament sitting around the clock to ram through a bunch of bills? With the majority the bills are going to be passed one way or the other whether it takes a day a week or a month. What is the point of the opposition resisting? What is the point of Harper's panic? I've come to the conclusion we have 309 idiots in Ottawa!

Democracy in action! That's how the system works. I prefer ours any day of the week compared to a country like Russia where you are locked up for defying the supremacy of Vlad.

 

[JLM]

Democracy in action! That's how the system works. I prefer ours any day of the week compared to a country like Russia where you are locked up for defying the supremacy of Vlad.

Refreshing to know we are a step above the worst bunch of idiots! :lol:

 

[DurkaDurka]

Refreshing to know we are a step above the worst bunch of idiots! :lol:

Quite a few I would say. In my opinion, MP's are paid to represent the people, I don't care how long it it takes for bills to become law, it's not like they are paid overtime lol

 

[lone wolf]

Yeah.... Letting the spoiled brat have his way unchallenged

 

[Dexter Sinister]

What would be stupider would be not doing it at all. As Andrew Coyne put it in his column today, the opposition is putting up a serious fight against the abuses this government has visited upon Parliament, that fact that they're going to lose is irrelevant. There's an important matter of principle at stake, and if the government's whipped and cowed backbenchers had any idea what their jobs really are, and had any real courage, they'd be just as vigilant in defense of Parliament's rights and privileges as opposition members are.

 

[relic]

Now you did it Dex,Google will be flooded with tory sheeple looking up the definition of principle.

 

[Locutus]

If the pinheads in the House (no matter where they sit or what weight they pull) did not do this, there'd be a percieved hell to pay. It's the 'job' of a two-faced politician isn't it. To appear to be working in the best interest of 'their constituents'.

Surely there are a few good folk and devotees that do the good fight and all but most of these arseholes are in it for their own recognition. Don't fool yourselves. Regardless of what lying lawyers lead this great country. It's a psuedo 'reality' show.

 

[mentalfloss]

There is no ambiguity on this issue.

The amount of time spent voting on this matter is a reflection of the size of the budget bill. This marathon wouldn't have existed in the first place if the Conservatives didn't try to ram the biggest budget in history through the house.

As for who's winning on perception, this is a huge success for the opposition as the matter is getting tons of media attention and that was intent. Any rebellious commentary from bitter conservatives just fuels that fire and the negative changes this bill are going to bring will be heavily disputed over the next three years.

 

[Locutus]

After everyone starts enjoying summer holidays, cottaging and all like that, and the U.S. election heats up and becomes becomes feverish, only a handful of people will ever remember this classroom drama. Let alone who thinks who 'won'. :lol:

Media attention lasts a few minutes in the twitterverse these days.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Now you did it Dex,Google will be flooded with tory sheeple looking up the definition of principle.

I believe there are 309 individuals in Ottawa that probably could use the definition too.

 

[mentalfloss]

After everyone starts enjoying summer holidays, cottaging and all like that, and the U.S. election heats up and becomes becomes feverish, only a handful of people will ever remember this classroom drama. Let alone who thinks who 'won'. :lol:

Media attention lasts a few minutes in the twitterverse these days.

Like I said. More bitter tears just keeps the fire going.

 

[Cabbagesandking]

Usually the sins of this government are lost in time because of the speedy replacement with other sins and the fatigue of the media in coverage.

I think that this one will not die away since the effects are going to be felt throughout the economy and society in general until future governments reverse the damages.

At the next election, there will still be more unemployed who have lost their EI or are more limited and on welfare. There will still be gradually ageing workers eho wface the prospect of pensions curtailed and delayed.

There will still be workers with reduced wages because of the effects of the new rules for foreign workers. There will still be projets going forwards without proper environmental assessment. There will still be problems with the loss of protection for food safety; of oversight for CSIS and other institutions.

There will still be increasing deregulation and there will still be a shrinking economy because of the anti-jobs `Jobs`Budget.

And a dozen more that will be election issues.

There will still be a finance Minister who claims that Parliament is wasting time and money in debating the whims of his boss and his corrupt part in facilitating them.

This will not die but it will be the death of these `Conservatives`unless the NDP and the Liberals prove to be entirely clueless.

 

[lone wolf]

Unfortunately, they've been doing a good job at it over the last year....

 

[JLM]

Usually the sins of this government are lost in time because of the speedy replacement with other sins and the fatigue of the media in coverage.

I think that this one will not die away since the effects are going to be felt throughout the economy and society in general until future governments reverse the damages.

At the next election, there will still be more unemployed who have lost their EI or are more limited and on welfare. There will still be gradually ageing workers eho wface the prospect of pensions curtailed and delayed.

There will still be workers with reduced wages because of the effects of the new rules for foreign workers. There will still be projets going forwards without proper environmental assessment. There will still be problems with the loss of protection for food safety; of oversight for CSIS and other institutions.

There will still be increasing deregulation and there will still be a shrinking economy because of the anti-jobs `Jobs`Budget.

And a dozen more that will be election issues.

There will still be a finance Minister who claims that Parliament is wasting time and money in debating the whims of his boss and his corrupt part in facilitating them.

This will not die but it will be the death of these `Conservatives`unless the NDP and the Liberals prove to be entirely clueless.

While I partly agree I think the bottom line is too many Canadians expect government to look after them. :smile:

 

[earth_as_one]

After everyone starts enjoying summer holidays, cottaging and all like that, and the U.S. election heats up and becomes becomes feverish, only a handful of people will ever remember this classroom drama. Let alone who thinks who 'won'. :lol:

Media attention lasts a few minutes in the twitterverse these days.

Pretty much everyone will be affected by the changes coming from this bill. When people start getting screwed around by this bill, they will remember who supported the bill and who fought against it.

 

[Niflmir]

Than parliament sitting around the clock to ram through a bunch of bills? With the majority the bills are going to be passed one way or the other whether it takes a day a week or a month. What is the point of the opposition resisting? What is the point of Harper's panic? I've come to the conclusion we have 309 idiots in Ottawa!

As I see it, the whole idea of making an omnibus bill is to save procedural time. If the opposition places huge procedural roadblocks in front of you because you use an omnibus bill, then it removes the only purpose it doing so.

In this case, maybe the could have passed all of the unimportant power shuffles contained in the bill more easily in smaller bills without everyone in parliament standing up to point out that the government is hypocritical in the matter.

 

[JLM]

Pretty much everyone will be affected by the changes coming from this bill. When people start getting screwed around by this bill, they will remember who supported the bill and who fought against it.

Perhaps you could help us out by listing the worst three things we can expect to encounter that will come as a surprise! :lol:

 

[lone wolf]

Perhaps you could help us out by listing the worst three things we can expect to encounter that will come as a surprise! :lol:

That'd spoil the surprise....

 

[earth_as_one]

Perhaps you could help us out by listing the worst three things we can expect to encounter that will come as a surprise! :lol:

You might be unhappy when a new dump, factory or mine locates itself just upstream or upwind from where you live. The new stream lined environmental impact assessments no longer take into account the affect on drinking water or air quality. A large corporation can crap in your backyard and you will have little say about it or means to complain. If you do, the minister responsible can overrule your complaints and bring the hearings to a swift end and approve the project regardless of the environmental consequences. Get ready to see Canada trashed.

The new bill will also cut funding for health programs and retirement security. We will work longer, pay more when we are sick and get less EI...

All these services we take for granted have been cut, diluted and rendered ineffective. Canadians are about to find out what deregulation does and it won't be pretty. These changes are long term and irreversible. We are returning back to the times when mills and chemical factories had no limits to how badly they can pollute the environment... and we still haven't cleaned up all the damage from the past.