Saskatchewan wants Ottawa to allow more immigrants

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Saskatchewan Immigration Minister Rob Norris says there is a "healthy tension" between the provincial and federal governments over a cap Ottawa has put in place that limits the number of immigrants allowed into the province.

"We're not going to be discouraged, nor are we going to be dissuaded," Norris said Thursday in response to comments made by federal Immigration Minister Jason Kenney.

"There is a real momentum here to make sure that (federal leaders) understand that Saskatchewan needs to continue to move forward on immigration."

Among the province's requests of Ottawa is an increase in the number of nominations allocated to the province for the Saskatchewan immigrant nominee program, Norris said.

"We're capped at about 4,000 right now," he said. "What we've said is we'd like 6,000. We can handle that. - With more than 11,000 jobs open and available today, we see that there are broad-based needs - we know there are more improvements we can be making here, but quite candidly, many, many sectors are firing on all burners."

While there is "no intention" to reduce Saskatchewan's allocation, Ottawa doesn't have immediate plans to increase it, Kenney said in a phone interview Thursday.

"Certainly, Premier (Brad) Wall and minister Norris have strongly advocated for that and we take their perspective very seriously," he said. "Our first priority is to address some of the weaknesses in the provincial nominee program."

Those include the nominations "creeping into" areas where other federal immigration programs apply and the need for minimum language requirements, which Norris endorsed earlier this month.

"Provincial programs play an important role," Kenney said. "But we do think there's an important nation-building dimension to immigration and we do want to maintain a significant federal role in selection."

"Once we've seen improvements in the provincial nominee program and once we've reformed our federal programs, we'll certainly be open to looking at possible further increases to the provincial nominee allocation," Kenney added. "It's not easy, though. Every province wants more allocations and overall, Canadians don't want us to raise immigration levels."

Kenney cited polling data indicating 10 to 15 per cent of Canadians support increasing immigration overall.

"For too long we've seen declining economic results for immigrants - bringing in newcomers to face unemployment and underpayment," he said.

But Norris said "the broad brush strokes probably don't apply here in Saskatchewan, because certainly what we've heard from employers, what we've heard from newcomers and what we've heard from communities is actually a very, very consistent spirit of welcome.

"We're seeing the reinvigoration of communities that - were having challenges of decline. Now we know there are challenges associated with growth, but those are the challenges that we welcome."

Kenney said the "employer-driven" federal reforms "will be disproportionately beneficial to a high-growth province like Saskatchewan," with programs to court "economic immigrant" investors, entrepreneurs, skilled workers and graduates of the province's two universities.

With the potential for more federally selected immigrants coming to Saskatchewan, Kenney said he does "anticipate that we'll continue to see an increase" in immigration in the province - though "not as quickly as in the past five years, because you can't sustain that velocity of growth."
 

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Do you think he would consider someone from BC to be of immigrant status, petros?:smile:

I'm thinking about leaving BC and am considering both Sask and Manitoba as possibilities. Trying to figure out where I could live so that driving distance for Rider and Jet's games is as equidistant as possible - a priority in my decision. :smile:
 

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You have dual provincial citizenship. A birthright.

Brandon is nice but you'd have to build your own house. The market is super tight in that city.
 

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This talk of a cap is odd, just govt to govt BS. Immigrants from Alta or Man can simply drive there and look for work. Doncha get the feeling govts are making immigration overly complicated? It's all about getting a job.

But then maybe not. The article below discusses how current EI recipients may be forced to take local jobs instead of foreign temporary workers. Gee, why not, make sure Canadians get work, in Canada. Who'da thunked it.
EI recipients may be forced to accept jobs filled by temporary foreign workers
 

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I really want some unemployed pianist growing my cucumbers. WCB claims would skyrocket with blistered hand incidents.

P.S. MB out paces SK and AB in migrant permit workers.
 

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There is no shortage of work urban or rural in SK just a shortage or workers, skilled and unskilled. The same set of railroad tracks that brought people from the east 125 years ago still work just fine. Employers are paying incentives for people to relocate so there really isn't any excuse for anyone to sit and wallow in poverty in Canada.
 

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Would we open our doors to 10Million?


Russia Stunned After Japanese Plan to Evacuate 40 Million Revealed

By The European Union Times
18 April 12

new report circulating in the Kremlin today prepared by the Foreign Ministry on the planned re-opening of talks with Japan over the disputed Kuril Islands during the next fortnight states that Russian diplomats were “stunned” after being told by their Japanese counterparts that upwards of 40 million of their peoples were in “extreme danger” of life threatening radiation poisoning and could very well likely be faced with forced evacuations away from their countries eastern most located cities… including the world’s largest one, Tokyo.
The Kuril Islands are located in Russia's Sakhalin Oblast region and stretch approximately 1,300 km (810 miles) northeast from Hokkaido-, Japan, to Kamchatka, Russia, separating the Sea of Okhotsk from the North Pacific Ocean. There are 56 islands and many more minor rocks. It consists of Greater Kuril Ridge and Lesser Kuril Ridge, all of which were captured by Soviet Forces in the closing days of World War II from the Japanese.
The “extreme danger” facing tens of millions of the Japanese peoples is the result of the Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Disaster that was a series of equipment failures, nuclear meltdowns, and releases of radioactive materials at the Fukushima I Nuclear Power Plant, following the To-hoku earthquake and tsunami on 11 March 2011.
According to this report, Japanese diplomats have signaled to their Russian counterparts that the returning of the Kuril Islands to Japan is “critical” as they have no other place to resettle so many people that would, in essence, become the largest migration of human beings since the 1930’s when Soviet leader Stalin forced tens of millions to resettle Russia’s far eastern regions.








Important to note, this report continues, are that Japanese diplomats told their Russian counterparts that they were, also, “seriously considering” an offer by China to relocate tens of millions of their citizens to the Chinese mainland to inhabit what are called the “ghost cities,” built for reasons still unknown and described, in part, by London’s Daily Mail News Service in their 18 December 2010 article titled: “The Ghost Towns Of China: Amazing Satellite Images Show Cities Meant To Be Home To Millions Lying Deserted” that says:


Russia Stunned After Japanese Plan to Evacuate 40 Million Revealed
 

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I take that as all 40 m could perish rather than give then sanctuary and have to pick up a large portion of the cost. I would think danger of death from radiation would move them right to the front of the line.
If Sask would be willing to do that, I'm all for it, if they are after the educated types then they are just taking skilled workers out of other nations and they are left with only unskilled people. Having the workforce full (and at a lower rate) means educating new workers would not be needed and education could be curtailed except for basic reading and writing.
The 2nd situation makes them almost inhuman, I wonder if that will be the most popular choice?
The original European stock used to conquer the land were as disadvantages as any immigrant.

Get them to check on the copy-write violation on posting too much of a published article without permission and no reference to the original article.
 

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Point taken, all I was looking for was some quick yes or no replies on that many refugees.

What label would experienced Chinese road-builders get that would allow relaxing the rules? A company would hire them in a heart-beat because he is hiring a team rather than individuals as is the case when hiring from the whole community. Even at the same rate of pay the work would be done better and below budget and attendance would be much higher than it is with a crew that may or may not even like each other.

Our ancestors settled in communities that were 'alike persons' so if the Jobs are for a lot of people in a local stting it might be better off to let one group win the lotto. The test bed for that would be FtMuck and the influx of workers from NFLD, do they get along better with others from that Province in general or it doesn't matter, again a yes/no thing.
Do out of Province workers get the same subsidies that are given to companies that hire from their work pool. Today AISH support handicapped citizens by giving them a guaranteed income, in exchange they might end up working in a Wal-Mart where the Government collects any money after a certain level is reached.
How is somebody not on assistance supposed to work below the minimum wage and still pay full-time worker prices in the community? Plus the government sponsored worker comes with health insurance.
 
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You have dual provincial citizenship. A birthright.

Brandon is nice but you'd have to build your own house. The market is super tight in that city.


Brandon is probably too big for me, petros. I incline toward very rural areas or tiny towns. :smile:
 

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Certainly there are those here who'd be Glad to See The Back of You.

Nothing personal you understand.

The article below discusses how current EI recipients may be forced to take local jobs instead of foreign temporary workers. Gee, why not, make sure Canadians get work, in Canada. Who'da thunked it.
EI recipients may be forced to accept jobs filled by temporary foreign workers
The issue is matching people on EI up with jobs they are qualified for-something the gubmint has never managed to do.

It'a fine to say "Go Here and Do This" but employers want a say in the process and that's the fly in the ointment.
 

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Lets just use prisoners for our sports teams. If players of today can pull down that kind of money imagine what they could do with a real job, like the skilled workers that are what exactly, lawyers, doctors are usually called professionals and dishwashers are unskilled workers so the new workers are chamber maids for the new places springing up that house and feed the new influx of oil-patch workers, at least until the construction phase is complete.

November 22, Edmonton Journal
More immigrants making Prairies their first choice
Job opportunities better than in Ontario
More immigrants are flocking to the prairies and turning their backs on Ontario - a traditional hub for newcomers to Canada - according to new statistics. The number of newcomers settling in Alberta increased to 32,642 in 2010 from 16,404 in 2001; Saskatchewan saw an increase to 7,615 from 1,704; and Manitoba saw 15,809 new faces, up from 4,591 a decade earlier. Citizenship and Immigration Canada said part of the increase could be attributed to the Provincial Nominee Program that has given provinces more autonomy in selecting immigrants who match local or regional needs.

Canada's Immigration Headline News
 

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Certainly there are those here who'd be Glad to See The Back of You.

Nothing personal you understand.

Really, Bill.........nothing personal eh? I might be able to see you speaking for yourself but to include others is bit beyond the pale, IMHO.

Hmm.... There are some really nice towns in south west man. Melitta or Souris are really nice quant places.

I'm planning a trip this summer and will be checking out a few places, petros. More concerned about getting to Jets games in the middle of winter as the Riders only play in good weather, well reasonable weather anyway. :smile: