Immigrants to Canada live in subsidized housing


Durry
#1
Here is just another example of where we let immigrants into our country and they can't even earn enough to support themselves and their families.
Why are we letting these type of immigrants into our country?
Subsidized housing should be used for Canadians who fall on hard times, it should not be used for immigrants who cannot make enough money in this country. They should be sent home.

Plus you will notice this is an older couple, in a few more years we will be totally looking after them and supplying them with our expensive health care.
Do you know that in Toronto, over 60% of seniors are immigrants . And in Vancouver this number is 50%. Canada in general, has about 22% immigrants. Guess who's coming here in their senior years to be looked after by the Canadian public. Seniors are by far the largest costs to our health care system. Those who become seniors in our country are entitled to our health cars,,,,,BUT, only in proportion to the length of time they have contributed to this country.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/a...da-s-newcomers
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“It’s tough to live with so many people in so little space, but you are bound to live like this when you don’t have money,” said Rosario, 61, a bakery chef, who two months ago finally moved into a subsidized seniors’ apartment after four years on the waiting list.
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mentalfloss
#2
Looks like we'll need to spend more money on tougher immigration policies.
 
Kakato
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#3
Arent we all immigrants?
 
Liberalman
+1
#4
And you just found this out now?
 
dumpthemonarchy
#5
Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

Arent we all immigrants?


For the same reason we give EI to people in regions where unemployment is 12%, people refuse work, and still get EI. Immigration is political and no longer makes economic sense.

Kenney said on the CBC he is proud the Harper govt hasn't reduced immigration levels from 250,000 per year, unlike that dastardly Chretien who reduced immigration levels when the economy slowed in the 1990s.

Kenney now finds more votes from multicultural curry Canadians than non-hypenated Canadians.

I did not immigrate from another country to live in Canada, Did you Kakato?
 
Kakato
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by dumpthemonarchyView Post

For the same reason we give EI to people in regions where unemployment is 12%, people refuse work, and still get EI. Immigration is political and no longer makes economic sense.

Kenney said on the CBC he is proud the Harper govt hasn't reduced immigration levels from 250,000 per year, unlike that dastardly Chretien who reduced immigration levels when the economy slowed in the 1990s.

Kenney now finds more votes from multicultural curry Canadians than non-hypenated Canadians.

I did not immigrate from another country to live in Canada, Did you Kakato?

No but my father did.
 
Cannuck
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

No but my father did.

That doesn't make you an immigrant. That makes your father an immigrant.
 
Machjo
+1 / -1
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

Here is just another example of where we let immigrants into our country and they can't even earn enough to support themselves and their families.
Why are we letting these type of immigrants into our country?
Subsidized housing should be used for Canadians who fall on hard times, it should not be used for immigrants who cannot make enough money in this country. They should be sent home.
Plus you will notice this is an older couple, in a few more years we will be totally looking after them and supplying them with our expensive health care.
Do you know that in Toronto, over 60% of seniors are immigrants . And in Vancouver this number is 50%. Canada in general, has about 22% immigrants. Guess who's coming here in their senior years to be looked after by the Canadian public. Seniors are by far the largest costs to our health care system. Those who become seniors in our country are entitled to our health cars,,,,,BUT, only in proportion to the length of time they have contributed to this country.
Canada News: New immigrants are the
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First off, we need to distinguish between regular immigrants and genuine refugees. As a rule refugees won't have money because they were oppressed. I'd rather spend money on them here than on the military abroad.
 
Kakato
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Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

That doesn't make you an immigrant. That makes your father an immigrant.

And none of us would be here if it wasent for them immigrateing here,maybe we should give it back to the natives.No one asked them about their immigration policies before we got here.
 
Machjo
+1
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

And none of us would be here if it wasent for them immigrateing here,maybe we should give it back to the natives.No one asked them about their immigration policies before we got here.

Maybe those natives should go back to their countries too. Why did the government let them in in the first place?

 
Cannuck
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Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

And none of us would be here if it wasent for them immigrateing here,maybe we should give it back to the natives.No one asked them about their immigration policies before we got here.

I don't really care about their immigration policies. I try not to live in the past.
 
Liberalman
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Subsidized housing and a free healthcare and drug plan for immigrants was put in place by immigrants who got their citizenship to this country, who got the vote who ran for office, who changed this and the rest of the country did not pay attention to what was going on.
 
Cliffy
+1
#13
I immigrated to BC from Quebec, but I asked permission from the aboriginal inhabitants if I could stay. I don't put much faith in laws created by thieves.
 
Machjo
+1
#14
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

I don't really care about their immigration policies. I try not to live in the past.

Our present stems from our past. We didn't just fall out of the sky one day.
 
Cannuck
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Our present stems from our past. We didn't just fall out of the sky one day.

Yes, I'm aware of that.
 
Kakato
+1
#16
I thought it was the libs that started the immigration ball rolling for the votes.
 
Machjo
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Yes, I'm aware of that.

So how can you disconnect the past from the present?
 
Cannuck
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

So how can you disconnect the past from the present?

Who said anything about disconnecting the past from the present? I said I try not to live in the past.
 
Kakato
#19
To say that past events do not presently exist because they have already happened (and are no longer present) or that future events do not presently exist because they have not yet happened (and thus are not currently present) poses some interestig questions. Can these past and future events, which do not presently exist, influence events that do exist in the present?

I would contest that they cannot, and where we typically assign causality to past or future events there is an actual present mechanism that influences present events. For instance, in the case of past events having an influence on current events, that is only true in the sense that the present effects of a past event influences a present one. Some examples of the present effects of past events are experience, memories, or altered states of events that exist in the present because of something that has happened in the past (but note that it is the consequential altered state that influences present events, not the non-longer existing past event that may have produced those altered states).

In the case of future events, it is the present events that we often describe as "expectation" (or the other present events that actually lead us to even refer to future events in the first place ) that influences present events. A more explicit example may be to contrast the statement that people go to college because of a future degree or increased earnings with the statement that people go to coDamn!f a degree or increased earnings. Future events only exert their influence in as much as they have present correlates, and therefore it is really these present correlates that influence behavior and events.

What are your takes on this?
 
Durry
+1
#20
The people who first came to NA and build this great country were the Europeans. They build the trading system and put most of the infrastructure in place like the legal system (which is based on Christian ideology), government system, schools etc etc. Immigrants from other countries did not start coming here until most of the infrastructure was in place. This started happening after WW2.
 
taxslave
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Maybe those natives should go back to their countries too. Why did the government let them in in the first place?

Didn't you know we were just squatting on your land, patiently waiting for you to come and claim it? For about 6000 yrs. BTW What took you so long to get here?
 
Kakato
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#22
Before the arrival of the European Immigrants, (external - login to view) the continent now known as North America was made up of a variety of nations, just like the nations of Europe. Each of these nations had their own culture, economy, language, education, religion and government.

In the territory that would one day become known as Canada, there were about 250,000 inhabitants, with between 20,000 to 30,000 residing in semi-permanent towns and villages. They farmed, raised families, socialized, loved, hated, laughed and cried; and all belonged to the same
human race (external - login to view) as the later European Immigrants. They studied astronomy and astrolog (external - login to view)y, using the stars to assist in plant rotation and migratory trends.
 
Durry
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Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

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In the territory that would one day become known as Canada, there were about 250,000 inhabitants, with between 20,000 to 30,000 residing in semi-permanent towns and villages. .

What was the names of these towns, where were they located?
 
Cliffy
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by KakatoView Post

Before the arrival of the European Immigrants, the continent now known as North America was made up of a variety of nations, just like the nations of Europe. Each of these nations had their own culture, economy, language, education, religion and government.
In the territory that would one day become known as Canada, there were about 250,000 inhabitants, with between 20,000 to 30,000 residing in semi-permanent towns and villages. They farmed, raised families, socialized, loved, hated, laughed and cried; and all belonged to the same human race as the later European Immigrants. They studied astronomy and astrology, using the stars to assist in plant rotation and migratory trends.

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There were a lot more than 250,000 inhabitants. More like a few million. At the time of Columbus' arrival there were 100 - 110 million inhabitants of the Americas. By the time the first European settlers arrived, there were less than half that and 100 years after Columbus, there were only about 10 million. By comparison, American aboriginal people were far more civilized than their European contemporaries. Europeans were not much more than barbarians crawling out of the Dark Ages.
 
Kakato
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

What was the names of these towns, where were they located?

Our Home and Native Land Canda's First Immigrants (external - login to view)
 
Durry
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

n. By comparison, American aboriginal people were far more civilized than their European contemporaries. Europeans were not much more than barbarians crawling out of the Dark Ages.

It's too bad they could not build a modern civilization. I guess it took the Europeans to do that.
 
Machjo
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#27
Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

It's too bad they could not build a modern civilization. I guess it took the Europeans to do that.

You call the Residential School system "modern civilization?

Had we simply traded with them as equals rather than colonize them, they'd have naturally learnt and advanced rather than all be screwed up via beatings, murders, and rapes, not what I call "civilization".
 
Durry
+1
#28
Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

they'd have naturally learnt and advanced
".

Oh, the old "natural" explaination ...eh!! How come they didn't "naturally" know how to deal with the Europeans when they first came here? How come we have to teach them how to "naturally" advance their society ???
Pretty weak argument, but I guess when your grasping for an explaination, you'll grasp at almost anything..
 
Machjo
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by DurryView Post

Oh, the old "natural" explaination ...eh!! How come they didn't "naturally" know how to deal with the Europeans when they first came here? How come we have to teach them how to "naturally" advance their society ???
Pretty weak argument, but I guess when your grasping for an explaination, you'll grasp at almost anything..

Because we screwed them over in the forced residential school system, remember?
 
Kakato
+2
#30
When the white man came, we had the land and they had the bibles. Now they have the land and we have the bibles.
- Chief Dan George
 

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