Israel Warns Neighbors Over March To Jerusalem


MHz
#271
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

So, you are saying that AFTER the protesters turned violent, the IDF used non lethal force to break up those violent protests.... is that right? Kudos to the IDF.

Denialruns strong in you, did you not hear the warning that they would open fire even on 'peaceful protestors'? And that is just what they did before any violence took place.

I guess we can stop the horse**** condemnation of any nation using violence as a credible way to end any/all protests. I would imagine that 'morality' of yours allows protesters in Syria to kill soldiers and police and condemn the soldiers when they fire back. lol Can't be much more of a hypocrite than that.
 
CDNBear
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#272
 
Goober
#273
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

I would say that Israeli soldiers showed more restraint than usual as the the number of dead and injured this week was lower than a typical week.

More restraint than usual - care to explain that - comes across as IDF regularly go on shooting sprees just for the hell of it
 
Cannuck
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#274
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I wonder why Jimmy isn't chasing EAO around and attacking EAO about that.

Why would I "chase" EAO around and attack him for that. I don't really care what the Joo-hater thinks. I'm just intrigued at how similar he and Goober are.
 
CDNBear
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#275
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Why would I "chase" EAO around and attack him for that. I don't really care what the Joo-hater thinks. I'm just intrigued at how similar he and I are.

I fixed that for you.
 
Goober
#276
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Why would I "chase" EAO around and attack him for that. I don't really care what the Joo-hater thinks. I'm just intrigued at how similar he and Goober are.

Not likely -but you and EAO are the same Bear, myself plus many other have taken you both of you to school and yet you fail to gain knowledge. Keep coming back for more.

And EAO left your *** hanging in the wind.

Why he accused me of the same thing - I offered up the same challenge again - But both of you suffer from knowitallitis and cannot admit when you are gravely mistaken.

As I mentioned previously - a serious fixation is a sign of stability issues.

Now give me another Red.
 
earth_as_one
#277
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

More restraint than usual - care to explain that - comes across as IDF regularly go on shooting sprees just for the hell of it

IDF soldiers can and do kill Palestinians for kicks. This report gives two examples

"Don’t worry - it’s just another Palestinian child’s death"
On 18 March 2006, I visited a grieving family in Al Yamun, a town in the northern West Bank. Their 7-year old daughter had been murdered the night previously by Israeli Border Police, who had entered the town to arrest “wanted” Palestinian militants in a raid led by Israeli Defence Forces (IDF). Her name was Akaber Adbelrahman Zaid and she was on her way to a doctor’s clinic to have stitches removed from her chin. Instead she received a barrage of bullets to the head, when an undercover Border Police unit opened fire on the car in which she was travelling with her uncle.

An IDF spokesperson said the police had thought that the wanted militants were trying to escape in the car and thus fired shots at the wheels as a deterrent. Akaber’s uncle said it was obvious that the only people in the car were himself and a small child, adding that the policemen had fired at close range. A Ha’aretz reporter inspected the car afterwards and found that all four tyres were still intact. For a specially trained unit of sharpshooters to fire at the wheels of a vehicle from a short distance and miss their target completely seems a little dubious...

...attempts have been made to put IDF officers on trial in the past, but not only do most of these fail; the verdict usually serves up a further slap in the face for the victim too. Just five days after Akaber’s murder, Ha’aretz reported that Captain “R”, a Givati Brigade soldier in the IDF, would be awarded 80,000 NIS in compensation from the State of Israel, after being acquitted of a five-count indictment against him related to the killing of Iman Al Hems, a 13-year old Gaza schoolgirl. Iman had been shot by the IDF in October 2004, when she came in the vicinity of their outpost. Captain “R” had then approached Iman, who was already lying injured on the ground and had shot her at point blank range. Transcripts of radio exchange between the soldiers during the incident revealed that Captain “R” stated he did this, “to confirm the kill”.

Contradicting himself in court, Captain “R” said he opened fire, not directly aiming at Iman, in order to create deterrence, and that he believed that the young girl posed a serious threat. How mentally disturbed and/or cowardly must an Israeli captain be to feel scared of an unarmed 13-year old schoolgirl, who was already lying wounded and helpless on the ground?....

Don't Worry -* It's Just Another Palestinian Child's Death (external - login to view)

Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

More restraint than usual - care to explain that - comes across as IDF regularly go on shooting sprees just for the hell of it

This IDF Reservist can explain what I meant by "more restraint than usual" regarding the casual killing of innocent unarmed civilians by "some" IDF soldiers.

Why Every Jewish Soldier Should Refuse - Gush Shalom - Israeli Peace Bloc (external - login to view)

Just because IDF soldiers and Jewish settlers can kill Palestinians with impunity, that doesn't man they all do this. But if you are a cold blooded killer and want to gun down innocent people including children in cold blood without fear of serious consequences, then becoming a settler or joining the IDF could be for you.
 
Goober
#278
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

IDF soldiers can and do kill Palestinians for kicks. This report gives two examples
[B]"Don’t worry - it’s.

You stated that I have not condemned Israeli War Crimes - Do you still stand by that or do you retract this false statement
 
CDNBear
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#279
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

How mentally disturbed and/or cowardly must an Israeli captain be to feel scared of an unarmed 13-year old schoolgirl, who was already lying wounded and helpless on the ground?....

Not quite as mentally disturbed as...

Child suicide bombers in the Israeli (external - login to view)

Quote:

But if you are a cold blooded killer and want to gun down innocent people including children in cold blood without fear of serious consequences, then becoming a settler or joining the IDF could be for you.

Oh you'll be getting a neg from our new self appointed forum cop for that.

Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

You stated that I have not condemned Israeli War Crimes - Do you still stand by that or do you retract this false statement

Why am I not surprised the new self appointed forum cop hasn't taken EAO to task for that.
 
gerryh
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#280
Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

I would say that Israeli soldiers showed more restraint than usual as the the number of dead and injured this week was lower than a typical week.
This Week in Palestine: week 13 2012
This Week in Palestine week 13 2012 - International Middle East Media Center
...100 civilians were injured when Israeli troops attacked protesters in Ramallah and Bethlehem cities.... people marched from Ramallah city, central West Bank, towards Qalandiya checkpoint that is separating Ramallah from Jerusalem. Troops fired tear gas and sound bombs then later used rubber-coated steel bullets. 80 Palestinians were injured. Witnesses told IMEMC that among those injured were two Palestinian medic...In Bethlehem 20 residents were injured, seven were moved to hospitals, when soldiers fired tear gas and sound bombs at land day protesters. Among those injured in Bethlehem was an American activist who was hit with a tear gas canister in his head...
...

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How sad that you can't just admit that the IDF showed and used considerable constraint these last few days. How sad that you give a backhanded acknowledgement just to use that to propagate more of your one sided bullshyte. Using IMEMC as a sourse is like colpy using the religionofpeace web site as a source against Muslims.


This, once again, puts lie to your continued proselytizing that you are open minded and neutral with the ME situation.

Tell me, what "justice" have those that have been responsible for Israeli children's deaths been brought to?
 
CDNBear
#281
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Tell me, what "justice" have those that have been responsible for Israeli children's deaths been brought to?

The ones the IDF haven't killed?
 
gerryh
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#282
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

The ones the IDF haven't killed?


If they were killed by the IDF, then no justice has been extracted, only revenge. I know for many revenge is all that they need, but for me, revenge puts the killers on equal ground and justice has not been served.
 
Goober
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#283
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Not quite as mentally disturbed as...
Child suicide bombers in the Israeli (external - login to view)

Oh you'll be getting a neg from our new self appointed forum cop for that.
Why am I not surprised the new self appointed forum cop hasn't taken EAO to task for that.


And every Sheriff has a spare hat.


And a sidekick

 
CDNBear
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#284
More like...

 
Goober
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#285
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Why would I "chase" EAO around and attack him for that. I don't really care what the Joo-hater thinks. I'm just intrigued at how similar he and Goober are.


So why so many Reds.

Is it because I call you Bucky Jnr

Is it because I state you are fixated

Is it because I and others have taken you to school time and again.

Is it because I will not post a direct reply to your question

What is so upsetting to you. The Doctor is in and I'm listening.
 
Spade
+2
#286
Hey, guys, the March is over!
 
gerryh
#287
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post


Is it because I will not post a direct reply to your question


can't be that, you have a problem with that no matter who you are spouting your bullshyte to.
 
Goober
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#288
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

So why so many Reds.
Is it because I call you Bucky Jnr
Is it because I state you are fixated
Is it because I and others have taken you to school time and again.
Is it because I will not post a direct reply to your question
What is so upsetting to you. The Doctor is in and I'm listening.


Ah another Red. What is the problem Cannuck. What can I do to clear this up.
 
MHz
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#289
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Tell me, what "justice" have those that have been responsible for Israeli children's deaths been brought to?

Is that compared to the children in Afghanistan who will never see justice for their children that get killed daily? Wasn't cast lead over some 1,000's of rockets fired since, say 1967?

Apparently only Jewish children are important to the world. You (and you cohorts) really make me want to puke at times.

Here are two versions of what happened the night of March 11, when 17 Afghan villagers were shot to death.
First, the Army version: Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, troubled by marriage woes, drunkenly left Camp Belambai, 12 miles from Kandahar, with a pistol and an automatic rifle and killed six people as they slept. Bales then returned to the base and left again for another village, this time killing 11. He acted alone and he admitted to the killings, according to the Army.
Then there is the account that child witnesses provided Yalda Hakim, a journalist for SBS Dateline in Australia (external - login to view). Hakim, who was born in Afghanistan (external - login to view) and immigrated to Australia as a child, is the first international journalist to interview the surviving witnesses. She said American investigators tried to prevent her from interviewing the children, saying her questions could traumatize them. She said she appealed to village leaders, who arranged for her to interview the witnesses.
Watch the SBS Dateline video "US alerted over Bales behaviour" (external - login to view)
In the video, the children told Hakim that other Americans were present during the rampage, holding flashlights in the yard.
Noorbinak, 8, told Hakim that the shooter first shot her father’s dog. Then, Noorbinak said in the video, he shot her father in the foot and dragged her mother by the hair. When her father started screaming, he shot her father, the child says. Then he turned the gun on Noorbinak and shot her in the leg.
“One man entered the room and the others were standing in the yard, holding lights,” Noorbinak said in the video.
A brother of one victim told Hakim that his brother’s children mentioned more than one soldier wearing a headlamp. They also had lights at the end of their guns, he said.
“They don’t know whether there were 15 or 20, however many there were,” he said in the video.
Army officials have repeatedly denied that others were involved in the massacre, emphasizing that Bales acted alone.

World News - Child witnesses to Afghan massacre say Robert Bales was not alone (external - login to view)
 
Goober
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#290
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Ah another Red. What is the problem Cannuck. What can I do to clear this up.


Oh my another -
 
MHz
#291
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Is it because I will not post a direct reply to your question

What is so upsetting to you. The Doctor is in and I'm listening.

Which Dr. is that, and old Shin Bet hand?

If you get so upset with others 'avoiding your questions' why do you avoid so many yourself?
 
gerryh
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#292
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Is that compared to the children in Afghanistan who will never see justice for their children that get killed daily? Wasn't cast lead over some 1,000's of rockets fired since, say 1967?
Apparently only Jewish children are important to the world. You (and you cohorts) really make me want to puke at times.
Here are two versions of what happened the night of March 11, when 17 Afghan villagers were shot to death.
First, the Army version: Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, troubled by marriage woes, drunkenly left Camp Belambai, 12 miles from Kandahar, with a pistol and an automatic rifle and killed six people as they slept. Bales then returned to the base and left again for another village, this time killing 11. He acted alone and he admitted to the killings, according to the Army.
Then there is the account that child witnesses provided Yalda Hakim, a journalist for

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Fu ck you're a moron. Have I EVER supported the "coalition" in their bullshyte wars? Either the Afghanistan OR Iraq? No.... moron. As a matter of fact, I have been so vehemently opposed to war that I have been "timed out" on MANY occasions over the last 8 years because of it. So don't throw your one sided sanctimonious bullshyte at me.
 
darkbeaver
#293
Israel, the sick invention that makes the world vomit.
 
Goober
#294
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Is that compared to the children in Afghanistan who will never see justice for their children that get killed daily? Wasn't cast lead over some 1,000's of rockets fired since, say 1967?World News - Child witnesses to Afghan massacre say Robert Bales was not alone[/url]

Gerry sees the bias that you, EAO have in regards to Israel.
Stating such nonsense and making these accusations against Gerry is beyond credible. My opinion they are repugnant as Gerry is Anti War - Anti Killing - Anti Injustice - and has clearly defined his position.

Your accusations should be retracted in my opinion.
 
MHz
#295
Your time-outs were for vulgar language no doubt, see anybody else get busted for being opposed to war? lol What a 'tard you are.
How many posts support Iraqi, Afghanistan right to resist with deadly force, that makes the Baghdad sniper(s) the 'good guys'. If your post about being against the invasions then you can't complain about how hard they resist yet if a Jew gets a broken fingernail anothe cast lead program against Gaza is entirely justified. You defined yourself very well, one sided, ... to the max. BTW the Iraq invasion has been going on for about 20 years or don't the lives of those children that died in that period mean anything.
 
Goober
#296
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Oh my another -

An another.
 
gerryh
+1
#297
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Your time-outs were for vulgar language no doubt, see anybody else get busted for being opposed to war? lol What a 'tard you are.
How many posts support Iraqi, Afghanistan right to resist with deadly force, that makes the Baghdad sniper(s) the 'good guys'. If your post about being against the invasions then you can't complain about how hard they resist yet if a Jew gets a broken fingernail anothe cast lead program against Gaza is entirely justified. You defined yourself very well, one sided, ... to the max. BTW the Iraq invasion has been going on for about 20 years or don't the lives of those children that died in that period mean anything.


None of my posts support the right of anyone to kill another. As for my timeouts..... oppose war on november 11 and see what happens to you. Call the murderers for what they are on that day and see what happens.

and the 8 years refers to the amount of time I have been on THIS board..... idiot.
 
MHz
#298
Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post

Gerry sees the bias that you, EAO have in regards to Israel.
Stating such nonsense and making these accusations against Gerry is beyond credible. My opinion they are repugnant as Gerry is Anti War - Anti Killing - Anti Injustice - and has clearly defined his position.

Your accusations should be retracted in my opinion.

Sniping civilians that are 1/4 mile away from being 'dangerous' is something Jews support when Jews are firing the bullets, nobody else should even have rifles (as in Gaza and the West Bank. Real ****ing level playing field.
Think so, is this justified killings or not?

CNN about JUBA

 
gerryh
+2
#299
No killing is justified...period

doesn't matter if it's the IDF, americans, Canadians, British, Hamas, AQ, the state..... or anyone else.
 
MHz
#300
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

None of my posts support the right of anyone to kill another. As for my timeouts..... oppose war on november 11 and see what happens to you. Call the murderers for what they are on that day and see what happens.

and the 8 years refers to the amount of time I have been on THIS board..... idiot.

I've opposed war on ever day of the year and not one time-out, face it it is your method of delivery. If WWII was such a bad thing where are all the protesters that should have exposed 9/11 and made it so we weren't in Afghanistan. At least our Liberal PM kept us out of Iraq because the reasons were bogus.

News flash for you, when you are invaded by a foreign military force you are supposed to resist as best you can. If you are against the invasion then you have to be in support of locals having the right to use armed resistance. At l;east they aren't being funded by ourside forces like the fake *** rebels in Libya and now Syria.

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

No killing is justified...period

doesn't matter if it's the IDF, americans, Canadians, British, Hamas, AQ, the state..... or anyone else.

You are wrong, a defender has the full right to resist using any and all methods against foreign military intervention, that goes for Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, and Gaza and the West Bank, period. Failing to do that means you can be shot on the spot as a traitor.

Jews who sided with the Nazis didn't live very long as other Jews killed them, fully justified.

You anti war rhetoric is pathetic because it offers no solutions to one side (the ones you mentioned) never have to answer for their crimes. You already gave your blessing for the IDF to kill protesters so don't embarrass yourself any further.


All this on one page, IDF justified killing peaceful protesters (not rioting as you wished but that little detail gets changed to justify the IDF killings. Pathetic.
" Kudos to the IDF ."

"No killing is justified...period"

"None of my posts support the right of anyone to kill another.
Last edited by MHz; Mar 31st, 2012 at 01:28 PM..
 

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