The "New" Iraq

Ocean Breeze
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Wave of bombs kills dozens in 12 cities across Iraq

World News - Wave of bombs kills dozens in 12 cities across Iraq (external - login to view)

...Hearts and Flowers , anyone??

with all the bombing since the elective invasion of choice.....one would have thought " those stockpiles of WMD" would have blown up by now.

the "flowers" contine as they cover the bodies and graves of the dead .
 
DaSleeper
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The Religion of Peace at work (external - login to view)
 
EagleSmack
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The "New" Libya

UK pledges help to Libya as concerns grow over militias - CNN (external - login to view)
 
Goober
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeView Post

World News - Wave of bombs kills dozens in 12 cities across Iraq (external - login to view)

...Hearts and Flowers , anyone??

with all the bombing since the elective invasion of choice.....one would have thought " those stockpiles of WMD" would have blown up by now.

the "flowers" contine as they cover the bodies and graves of the dead .

Guess the Shia majority going after the Sunni minority can lead to warfare. See how minority sects are treated in Islamic countries.
 
gopher
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Bush style democracy at work!
 
taxslave
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This is just another religious power struggle between factions.
 
EagleSmack
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3.5 years later and the Dem libs are still whinning about Bush. lmao
 
damngrumpy
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The fact is the modern history of the Republicans has led to a disaster for America.
People blame W Bush but the real blame goes all the way back to Ronnie Reagan.
He is the one who started the demolition of American society. Deregulation was a
disaster, as it led to abuse of the system as it existed. You cannot implement the
idea of deregulation in a vacuum, there still has to be governance rules that ensures
a basic system of honesty. From there it was a downhill slide even the policy of the
wonderful Bill Clinton is questionable to be fair. The policies of the former administrations
have led to where America is.
Obama introducing Medicare, or sorts, he didn't go far enough, and other progressive
pieces of legislation on social issues will hopefully bring America into the twenty first century.
Every other nation in the modern world have social safety nets and America is lagging
behind.
America has lived on credit card, cheap consumer prices, cheap energy compared to the rest
of the world its nearly free, and they shipped their industrial base off shore limiting the tax pool
from meaningful jobs. In addition they starved the tax system. Now all the infrastructure
improvements are coming due and there is no money to fix roads, education and so on and its
time they faced the cruel facts that they have to pay more taxes for less services and the rich
and business have to pay their share. Come to think of it, Canada is going to face the same
unhappy song in the very near future.
 
mentalfloss
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I don't know what's worse. The complete waste of trillions of dollars for a military effort that did absolutely nothing for anyone involved, or the diversionary tactics people are using to defend it.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

3.5 years later and the Dem libs are still whinning about Bush. lmao


what the last 3.5 years have proven is that it doesn't matter who is in power. Republican or democrat, warmongering is a way of life for americans.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

what the last 3.5 years have proven is that it doesn't matter who is in power. Republican or democrat, warmongering is a way of life for americans.

And for Canadians too. You've been involved in every thing we have except Iraq. Heck you even led the charge in Libya.

People in glass houses yadayadayada
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

And for Canadians too. You've been involved in every thing we have except Iraq. Heck you even led the charge in Libya.

People in glass houses yadayadayada


go ahead and throw the stones. I don't give a fu ck. Maybe it'll mean Canada will stop shipping our young men overseas to fight and die in other peoples wars.
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

And for Canadians too. You've been involved in every thing we have except Iraq. Heck you even led the charge in Libya.

People in glass houses yadayadayada

Actually Canada supplied support ships n stuff in Iraq.

Canada and the Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (external - login to view)

Canada’s secret war in Iraq (external - login to view)
 
Ocean Breeze
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Has nothing to do with people in glass houses. That is just another chldish knee jerk response. With no substance. How does it make some feel better to involve the Canadians in the US destruction on the planet.?? It does not make the mess any better at all. The US does have a problem taking ownership of the problems it creates.

It has everything to do with a decision made for reasons never fully disclosed that has destroyed a far off nation that posed no threat to the invader. It was an ELECTIVE invasion that slaughtered tens of thousands that can never be truly justified ......no matter what words are spun to make it appear more appealing or acceptable.

Irag was not a threat to the US ........but the bush regime had it in for SH and rather than just assassinate him ( as the US is prone to do now) ...it invaded and destroyed. and my goodness the promises that were made . one would think the US was offering Iraqis a paradise on earth.......( think purple fingers that the US sensationalized so much as if that changed the truth on the ground) ...

Sad that so many bought into it.

What makes it even worse is that as long as SH was a pal to the US , all was fine. The US thought they could control him. He wanted to change the currency in Iraq and that was one part of the package that dissed the US off.

NO ONE is defending SH atrocities. But NO ONE SHOULD DEFEND the US atrocities either. Two major BADS do not make a good........and it will take decades for things to settle down in Iraq as it tries to define what and who they now are. It is not enough to say that they can vote. Dictators allow voting too. Heck.....look at the US "voting" systems .....

Topple the leadership....such as it was, destroy the infrastructure and one can expect chaos of varying degrees for some time.
.....The only time Iraqis will and can have full influence over THEIR country and THEIR future......all outside influence must be removed or reduced to "consultative " rolls as requested by the Iraqis .

It is THEIR country and it is up to them how they handle the ongoing violence , The US et al cannot presume it knows better as to what the Iraqis want or need. That is just bellicose arrogance . Iraq is not to be made in the image of the US.. as it has its own culture, identity and fantastic rich history.

Quote:

Iraq Slaughter: 63 Killed, 257 Wounded
Tuesday: 63 Killed, 257 Wounded
by Margaret Griffis (external - login to view), March 20, 2012

At least 63 Iraqis were killed and 257 more were woundedin a series of attacks that took place a day after the ninth anniversary of the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq. While the date may be significant, the attacks could also be a simple prelude to Arab League related violence.

Iraq Slaughter: 63 Killed, 257 Wounded -- Antiwar.com (external - login to view)
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeView Post

Has nothing to do with people in glass houses. That is just another chldish knee jerk response. With no substance. How does it make some feel better to involve the Canadians in the US destruction on the planet.?? It does not make the mess any better at all. The US does have a problem taking ownership of the problems it creates.

Meanwhile in Libya....

People in Glass houses

(glad to see you are reading my posts. Perhaps you'll learn something )
 
Ocean Breeze
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Baghdad turns into a 'virtual prison' ahead of Arab League summit

Is THIS the kind of "freedom" and "democracy" that the USG "gave " Iraq?? One that is accompanied by American style terrorism. (examples too numerous to mention by now)

Perhaps those that started this invasion of choice and supported it should all go there now , assist with the repairs , reconstruction and make sure the US style terrorism is stopped. Let them have a taste of the life they created for the Iraqis ....

Is it any surprise that the turbulence continues.??

www.thenational.ae/news/world...-league-summit (external - login to view)
 
EagleSmack
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I would imagine you have your reservations all set for Libya Breezy?

www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012...-libya-amnesty (external - login to view)


 
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