Limbaugh's message to 'feminazis'


bluebyrd35
#121
"[QUOTE=captain morgan;1556123]Sure, read this:





They also save money by not paying for the sexual exploits of horn-dogs like Flukes.

Good grief ....THEY ARE NOT SAVING MONEY!! Understand that by not paying for those "sexual exploits" of MEN & WOMEN, they pay up to 12,500 for the average delivery (if child is kept) or 495. for an abortion. Those are covered. Now as to "Horn-dogs" what nasty label do you put on the men that are the other half of the equation??

Quote:--"In the end, this is between the insurance company and Flukes (and anyone else that is at odds with the policy). The University has nothing to do with it. That's my point: Don't make the argument to Georgetown University, make the argument to the insurance provider."

Unlike sex, those involved in the decision making (Catholic University & Insurance Company) excluded those paying for it & affected by it. The policy is clearly a matter of encouraging pregnancy by covering Viagra and by limiting access of women to contraception.

By the way, Sandra Flukes was on "The View" this am..... unlike Limbaugh's rant on the sexual mores of women, she presented a thoughtful, and reasonable argument.
 
captain morgan
#122
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Are Viagra and Cialis covered?

Talk to the insurance company on that... What does that have to do with Flukes' demands?

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

Now as to "Horn-dogs" what nasty label do you put on the men that are the other half of the equation??

Man-wh*re

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

Unlike sex, those involved in the decision making (Catholic University & Insurance Company) excluded those paying for it & affected by it. The policy is clearly a matter of encouraging pregnancy by covering Viagra and by limiting access of women to contraception.

Flukes can get a policy from another insurer provider it comes up to a specified standard... No one has a gun to her head requiring that she only assume a University policy.

Hell, maybe she ought to get back on her mother and fathers plan so she can get the thousands of condoms she needs to make it through law school.
 
Tonington
#123
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

I don't know how much clearer I can get...

Lots. The policy is underwritten by United Healthcare Insurance Company for Georgetown University. If Georgetown University changes their policy, you think that other insurance plans that purchase their policies underwritten by United Healthcare Insurance Company will pay more for their policy?

So if you and I are both customers of Sun Life, and your company makes a change to it's policy which adds cost to your plan, you think that my companies different policy will go up as well, despite no changes to my policy?

Ok...
 
captain morgan
#124
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Lots. The policy is underwritten by United Healthcare Insurance Company for Georgetown University. If Georgetown University changes their policy, you think that other insurance plans that purchase their policies underwritten by United Healthcare Insurance Company will pay more for their policy?

Which policy do you want them to change - the one for the employees (that Flukes referred to) or the one for the students?

That said, like I mentioned earlier, Flukes is welcome to source her own policy that meets her needs, provided it meets the Uni's standards.

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

So if you and I are both customers of Sun Life, and your company makes a change to it's policy which adds cost to your plan, you think that my companies different policy will go up as well, despite no changes to my policy?


Policy changes within the same company will have that effect... And yes, the actuarial stats do not differ materially between companies. You'll figure this out really fast the moment that you buy your own home insurance.
 
Tonington
#125
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post


Policy changes within the same company will have that effect...

Not the question. If you and I have the exact same policy, of course it will change. Limbaugh and Fluke do not have the same policy. Fluke has a policy offered to Georgetown University students. Limbaugh is not on that policy.
 
TenPenny
+1
#126
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Talk to the insurance company on that... What does that have to do with Flukes' demands?


If I understand correctly, she wants prescription contraception covered.
If Viagra and Cialis are covered, then it is only logical that contraceptives be covered as well. Since the only purpose of Viagra and Cialis is to permit men to have sex.
 
Cannuck
-1
#127
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Are Viagra and Cialis covered?

Erections Get Insurance; Why Not the Pill? - ABC News (external - login to view)

I wonder why this wasn't an issue for Rush.

(note to CB - That was sarcasm again)
 
captain morgan
#128
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

If I understand correctly, she wants prescription contraception covered.

Based on the info Tonnington provided in a link recently, the insurers do cover prescription birth control meds if it is needed for a medical condition... The contraception part is secondary (or so it appears)

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

If Viagra and Cialis are covered, then it is only logical that contraceptives be covered as well. Since the only purpose of Viagra and Cialis is to permit men to have sex.

I agree with you... The hypocrisy between the 2 policy points is glaring. That said, it's the insurance company's decision.

My beef on this relates to why Flukes is hanging the University out to dry on it, this issue is with the insurance provider, not the educational institution.
 
Tonington
#129
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Erections Get Insurance; Why Not the Pill? - ABC News (external - login to view)

I wonder why this wasn't an issue for Rush.

(note to CB - That was sarcasm again)

Hmm, Fluke never complained about paying so that limp dicked Limbaugh can get it up. Limbaugh is just a selfish douche.
 
captain morgan
#130
Maybe she should complain... And maybe, just to teach the insurance company a valuable lesson - she ought to get a policy from an outside insurer that meets teh necessary standards for the Uni AND covers rubbers.

That'll show 'em!
 
gerryh
#131
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Maybe she should complain... And maybe, just to teach the insurance company a valuable lesson - she ought to get a policy from an outside insurer that meets teh necessary standards for the Uni AND covers rubbers.


That'll show 'em!

She can't, it's a Catholic University. They will not approve a policy that covers contraceptives used for preventing pregnancy.
 
TenPenny
#132
The obvious solution would be to go to a university that supports your own philosophy, but, like the majority of Catholics I know, there is a definite feeling that many of the Church policies are best honoured by breaking them.
 
Cannuck
+1
#133
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

The obvious solution would be to go to a university that supports your own philosophy, but, like the majority of Catholics I know, there is a definite feeling that many of the Church policies are best honoured by breaking them.

It's the only way to move the institution into the 21st century. Gerry seems to be in the minority if the Catholics I know are any indication.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

My beef on this relates to why Flukes is hanging the University out to dry on it, this issue is with the insurance provider, not the educational institution.

A few posts ago your beef was that you and Rush were paying so she could get laid. It's very interesting that you took a quick detour once insurance coverage for Viagra was brought into the discussion....very interesting indeed.
 
Mowich
#134
A Challenge to Rush: Prove Your Ratings

How many listeners does Rush Limbaugh have? Well, in the press there are only two numbers you'll ever see -- 20 million or 15 million. Those are large numbers, so that is why Limbaugh is taken seriously and is believed to be influential.

I've got news for you -- those numbers are a total fabrication. They're made up out of whole cloth. You want to know where the 20 million number came from? It was first printed in Billboard magazine back in 1993. Here is the quote (external - login to view):


"Limbaugh's show is now heard on 610 stations and reaches approximately 20 million listeners, according to [Kit] Carson."


So who is Kit Carson? A guy known as Rush Limbaugh's "chief of staff." In other words, Rush's team simply made up the 20 million number and everyone believed it. He has never, ever presented any evidence to that effect.


More at:
Cenk Uygur: A Challenge to Rush: Prove Your Ratings (external - login to view)
 
captain morgan
#135
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

She can't, it's a Catholic University. They will not approve a policy that covers contraceptives used for preventing pregnancy.

Fair enough, that is Georgetown University's policy and prerogative. Flukes also has options, yet she is refusing to consider those purely on a financial basis.

Sad really, she makes quite a fuss about the health issue related to this, but in her eyes, her own health and well being aren't worth her paying to satisfy that concern. With that in mind, why should anyone else feel the need to give a rip about her position.

At the end of the day, Flukes is doing nothing more than attempting to apply her values and ethics on Georgetown University

Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

It's the only way to move the institution into the 21st century. Gerry seems to be in the minority if the Catholics I know are any indication.

.... Or, how about you live your life the way you choose. No one is stopping you from providing your kids with thousands of dollars of contraceptives and encouraging them to run out and get laid.

Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

A few posts ago your beef was that you and Rush were paying so she could get laid. It's very interesting that you took a quick detour once insurance coverage for Viagra was brought into the discussion....very interesting indeed.


Indeed, you have a severe comprehension problem. My position has been stable since the beginning of this thread.

Perhaps the meds you're taking for your addiction is fogging your thought process. I hear that methadone does that.

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Not the question. If you and I have the exact same policy, of course it will change. Limbaugh and Fluke do not have the same policy. Fluke has a policy offered to Georgetown University students. Limbaugh is not on that policy.


The costs are deferred across the entire consumer base of the insurance company in one form or another.

If Limbaugh has a healthcare policy with the same insurer that provides Georgetown Uni, then yes - his policy will be affected by the University's policy and the University policy will also be affected by Limbaugh's.
 
bluebyrd35
#136
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Talk to the insurance company on that... What does that have to do with Flukes' demands?



Man-wh*re



Flukes can get a policy from another insurer provider it comes up to a specified standard... No one has a gun to her head requiring that she only assume a University policy.

Hell, maybe she ought to get back on her mother and fathers plan so she can get the thousands of condoms she needs to make it through law school.


No...Flukes alreadys stated what she pays for HER contraceptives out of pocket. There is no reason to object re cost, as it is much cheaper than the insurance companies paying for prenatal care, delivery and hospital stays for mother and babies or even abortion costs if they cannot support a child at the time. Flukes testified reasonably, contrary to LimpBo. (thanks for that to a previous poster)

She simply asked that insurance companies providing group coverage, include women's contraceptives, as they do for men who wish to have viagra or Celias (sp.?)

You are left with two excuses as to why you are so ferocious in your objections.. (But hey we already know your agenda) 1) Religious reasons, or 2) Limbaugh or those who agree with him consider women are not to be considered equal, regarding health care. or sex!! In the latter case, a ***** has more rights than a woman's life & uterus.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Talk to the insurance company on that... What does that have to do with Flukes' demands?



Man-wh*re



Flukes can get a policy from another insurer provider it comes up to a specified standard... No one has a gun to her head requiring that she only assume a University policy.

Hell, maybe she ought to get back on her mother and fathers plan so she can get the thousands of condoms she needs to make it through law school.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Maybe she should complain... And maybe, just to teach the insurance company a valuable lesson - she ought to get a policy from an outside insurer that meets teh necessary standards for the Uni AND covers rubbers.

That'll show 'em!

Yes, especially if the rubbers fail. Making the condom producers support that child through university should do it, wouldn't you think?? What will be next?? Suing the sperm doner, for support of child for the same period. Hey, that already happens LOL. What would really show the insurance provider, is if the students and employees approach another group insurance company who will provide reasonable coverage to allow equal coverage for male and female. One could suspect that you suffer from womb envy.
Last edited by bluebyrd35; Mar 5th, 2012 at 07:24 PM..
 
Tonington
#137
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

The costs are deferred across the entire consumer base of the insurance company in one form or another.

Hmm, my car insurance premiums haven't gone up in the past three years...and I'm sure that there have been claims made by other policy holders.
 
captain morgan
-1
#138
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

No...Flukes alreadys stated what she pays for HER contraceptives out of pocket.

Ummmm.. Yeah - I suppose that because the insurance company doesn't pay, she'd kinda have to.

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

She simply asked that insurance companies providing group coverage, include women's contraceptives, as they do for men who wish to have viagra or Celias (sp.?)

Men don't get their contraceptives paid for either.

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

You are left with two excuses as to why you are so ferocious in your objections.. (But hey we already know your agenda) 1) Religious reasons, or 2) Limbaugh or those who agree with him consider women are not to be considered equal, regarding health care. or sex!! In the latter case, a ***** has more rights than a woman's life & uterus.

Keep up the spin, although I might suggest that you try to be a little more effective at it.

I really couldn't care less if Flukes gets rubbers covered by insurance or not.. I also don't care if she lobbies to have Pepsi but not Coke covered in her policy - it makes no difference to me.

The point is that she's a complete and utter moron (with an agenda) for attacking the university for this. This is an issue with the insurance company and not the school.

I hope that it's clear enough for you now.


Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

Yes, especially if the rubbers fail.

Sue your neighbour's plumber's dachshund for all I care.

Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

What would really show the insurance provider, is if the students and employees approach another group insurance company who will provide reasonable coverage to allow equal coverage for male and female.

Already been suggested... Try and keep up, m'kay?


Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

One could suspect that you suffer from womb envy.

You gotta be kidding

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Hmm, my car insurance premiums haven't gone up in the past three years...and I'm sure that there have been claims made by other policy holders.

Do you have comprehensive insurance?
 
TenPenny
+1
#139
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post


The point is that she's a complete and utter moron (with an agenda) for attacking the university for this. This is an issue with the insurance company and not the school.

I guess your assumption is that, under a group plan, it's the individual people who negotiate with the insurance company to determine what is and what is not covered.

Every once in a while, you give off the image of someone with a clue, but generally speaking, not.
 
L Gilbert
+2
#140
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Flukes' demand for rubbers to be included will affect all of the customers in terms of the shared costs and therefore Rush is in fact paying for Flukes' personal lifestyle decisions.

Aren't you making an assumption about Flukes' lifestyle?
 
captain morgan
-2
#141
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

I guess your assumption is that, under a group plan, it's the individual people who negotiate with the insurance company to determine what is and what is not covered.

Every once in a while, you give off the image of someone with a clue, but generally speaking, not.


It's her problem, she is the one that is dissatisfied with the scope of coverage. She has options - they may be prohibitive from a cost perspective, but again - her problem. In the end, it still comes down to this - she's too stupid or too cheap or possibly has some kind of agenda relative to why she is pursuing this ends.

Hell, I have yet to see any educational institution that formally recognizes that sexual activity is considered a core activity of the educational experience, so why you have this notion that it is somehow a 'right' is entirely baffling.
 
Tonington
+1 / -1
#142
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

She has options

Including testifying in support of legislation. I'm sure at one point in time people were told if they didn't want to ride at the back of the bus, that they could start their own bus company.
 
captain morgan
+1
#143
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Aren't you making an assumption about Flukes' lifestyle?


From Flukes' testimony:

"Without insurance coverage, contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during
law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships,
thatís practically an entire summerís salary. Forty percent of female students at
Georgetown Law report struggling financially as a result of this policy."


abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/statement-Congress-letterhead-2nd%20hearing.pdf (external - login to view)

That doesn't detail anyone's lifestyle, however, apparently 40% of the law students are spending $3000 on contraception over the course of a 32 months (assuming 2 semesters of 4 months each per year over 4 years)... What about the other 60% of the law students that don't report this kind of hardship?

The above is neither a condemnation nor an endorsement of the personal choices students make, but in my opinion, it does provide some interesting insight relative to the priorities set forth by Flukes.

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Including testifying in support of legislation. I'm sure at one point in time people were told if they didn't want to ride at the back of the bus, that they could start their own bus company.

You gotta be kidding.

Civil Rights on par with Flukes' 'right' to f*ck with gvt sponsored contraceptives.

Congratulations, you just insulted a major global demographic
 
Tonington
#144
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

What about the other 60% of the law students that don't report this kind of hardship?

Maybe their parents pay for their education...
 
captain morgan
#145
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Maybe their parents pay for their education...

Did Flukes' parents pay for her condoms when she lived at home?

Maybe they had a family health insurance plan that did, eh?
 
L Gilbert
#146
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

From Flukes' testimony:

"Without insurance coverage, contraception can cost a woman over $3,000 during
law school. For a lot of students who, like me, are on public interest scholarships,
that’s practically an entire summer’s salary. Forty percent of female students at
Georgetown Law report struggling financially as a result of this policy."


abcnews.go.com/images/Politics/statement-Congress-letterhead-2nd%20hearing.pdf (external - login to view)

That doesn't detail anyone's lifestyle, however, apparently 40% of the law students are spending $3000 on contraception over the course of a 32 months (assuming 2 semesters of 4 months each per year over 4 years)... What about the other 60% of the law students that don't report this kind of hardship?

The above is neither a condemnation nor an endorsement of the personal choices students make, but in my opinion, it does provide some interesting insight relative to the priorities set forth by Flukes.

There's all kinds of possibilities.



Quote:

Congratulations, you just insulted a major global demographic

Not a big deal. Most people are gullible and everyone is ignorant, too. How's that for insulting? lol
 
Tonington
+1
#147
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Civil Rights on par with Flukes' 'right' to f*ck with gvt sponsored contraceptives.

The "on par" is that you're saying if people are displeased with things in society, they shouldn't try to change things, except to start their own company...

Heh, even Limbaugh backed away from these types of comments. You're slime.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Did Flukes' parents pay for her condoms when she lived at home?

The fact that you view condoms as the same thing as medication is very funny.
 
captain morgan
#148
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

There's all kinds of possibilities.

Absolutely and no one is naive about the 'goings on' in a college setting.

Personally, I believe that the student insurance program is silly for not having some form of program to address this, but that is the decision of the insurance company itself. Factor-in the notion that Georgetown is a Catholic school and they have their specific policies that they've had in place for many years and it's a double-whammy
 
Tonington
#149
I wonder if Georgetown teaches law from the Catholic perspective only...
 
captain morgan
+1
#150
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

The "on par" is that you're saying if people are displeased with things in society, they shouldn't try to change things, except to start their own company...

Yeah - Rosa Parks would be right with you on that one.

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Heh, even Limbaugh backed away from these types of comments. You're slime.

Limbaugh apologized for using the word sl ut and wh0re. He didn't back-off from the principle.

You are waaayyy naive.

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

The fact that you view condoms as the same thing as medication is very funny.

We had already established that birth control pills for medically related reasons was covered by the insurance... It was in the link that you provided in which Flukes herself recognized that component.

Further - her repeated references were for contraception.

Are you getting this yet? C-O-N-T-R-A-C-E-P-T-I-O-N

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

I wonder if Georgetown teaches law from the Catholic perspective only...

Why back-off now?

You've already marginalized Civil Rights and Rosa Parks; isn't that your cue to attack Catholics?
 

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