Limbaugh's message to 'feminazis'


captain morgan
#301
Sorry, but your interpretation is incorrect.

What was meant was the incorrect and highly skewed presentation of the parallel that you drew.

Hope that clears it up.

BTW - the cat's OK
 
coldstream
#302
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

It was a statement by the Canadian Council of Bishops. For xrist sake, read it!



Retarded is the mild assessment.

The Winnipeg statement, passed in the immediate aftermath of Humanae Vitae, and the turbulence and dissension that racked the Church in the aftermath of Vatican 2... has NO authority over Catholic belief. It falls into the the pitfalls of many 'national bishops associations' that often worked in opposition to the authority of Rome in the 'modernization' of the Church in 1960s and 70s, and led to a collapse in attendance and vocations. Benedict XVI has since restricted the practice of 'interpreting' Encyclicals to meet 'local' moral standards by these Associations.. which essentially VOIDS the statement. Have no doubt that Humanae Vitae is authorative, and those Catholics who ignore it are in grave dissent with Catholic morality.

The statement itself was met with immediate and vocal opposition, including many Bishops, which found root especially among conservative practicing Catholic pro life advocates. The objections of opponents to the statement are perhaps best summarized in the writings of Msgr. Vincent Foy, who contends, among other things, that the Winnipeg Statement is

  • is tantamount to blasphemy, has increased dissent in the Church, and is an act of disobedience to the Holy See
  • has fostered support for homosexuality, the ordination of women and the fundamental 'option' of abortion
  • is a major factor in the crisis of vocations to the priesthood and religious life
  • has facilitated anti-life and immoral government legislation has deprived spouses of married love, has pitted spouses against one another, has made faithful Catholic couples feel betrayed and unsupported, and has been the cause of many marital breakups
  • permits extra-marital sex, and has led to a lowered respect for women
  • has not only adversely affected married life in Canada but in many other countries
  • has led to the killing of countless persons through abortifacient pills and devices.


It's just one the things that were spawned of the 'Spirit of Vatican 2' as opposed to its literal documents.. and includes the deformation of Mass in the vernacular 'Novus Ordo' from the majestic Tridentine Latin Version.. which led to fragmentation of belief and practice in the Church.
Last edited by coldstream; Mar 9th, 2012 at 01:53 PM..
 
TenPenny
+2
#303
Funny how you can go from never having heard of the Winnipeg statement, to being an expert on its implications and history.

Or maybe, like someone in kindergarten, you have the ability to cut and paste.
 
bluebyrd35
#304
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

Where did you read that they had a course on religion at that school??? got a link???

U

Wake up and concentrate......I did not say that particular university gave a course on religion.....Only that if they did, it should be on comparative religion. Flukes is taking LAW.....so why exactly is she and all the rest of the facultiy and students labouring under the Catholic restrictions on birth control regarding insurance, that the church nor the university pays for?? That is FORCING Catholic rules on all students. It may be advertised as a Catholic university but it gets it's revenue from courses such as law etc. If they want to enforce Catholic religion on students, then they should get out of law, engineering or any other course that is not involved with religion.
 
coldstream
#305
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Funny how you can go from never having heard of the Winnipeg statement, to being an expert on its implications and history.

Or maybe, like someone in kindergarten, you have the ability to cut and paste.

I think you'll find most Catholics have never heard of it... having been completely repudiated by so many bishops and by Rome decades ago. It's just a garbled mess of 'make up your own morality, if you don't like ours' nonsense.
 
Spade
#306
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Funny how you can go from never having heard of the Winnipeg statement, to being an expert on its implications and history.

Or maybe, like someone in kindergarten, you have the ability to cut and paste.

What he cut and pasted is a summary of ultra-conservative elements who want it retracted.

Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

I think you'll find most Catholics have never heard of it... having been completely repudiated by so many bishops and by Rome decades ago. .


False; you fibbed. For your penance, say three Hail Marys and one Our Father.

You are naughty! Member of the Catholic Defence League?
 
bluebyrd35
+1
#307
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Women can take what ever aphrodisiacs that they want, and lets make this really clear - the issue here is contraceptives, not cialis or viagra



And no one is preventing Fluke from accessing it.... But if Fluke is that concerned about her health status, she can guarantee her good health by keeping her legs shut.




It sure is between the Doc and Fluke - and yet again, no one is stopping her from accessing these contraceptives



No problem there - the comment is nothing but forgetable

Ain't gonna happen.........women are DEMANDING the right to enjoy sex just as men have done for centuries without consequence......What gives those with external genitalia the idea they are the nore entitled than those with internal ones?? Sort of a dog in the manger attitude wouldn't you say?. What exactly are you calling aphrodisiacs??? birthcontrol?? Good gawd what idiocy is that!!

Flukes does access contraceptives on her own dime and if you stripped your blindfold off to allow a bit of light in, you would have realized that she is paying twice as much as is reasonable for the privilege. She speaks out for those who cannot pay twice, and risk losing a great deal by loving a partner who cannot keep his zipper up. More women keep their legs closed than men who keep their pants zipped up.

Get used to the idea, that women are no longer chatel but are actually, in some cases, more highly evolved than their male counterparts.
 
coldstream
#308
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

What he cut and pasted is a summary of ultra-conservative elements who want it retracted.




False; you fibbed. For your penance, say three Hail Marys and one Our Father.

You are naughty! Member of the Catholic Defence League?


another group i've never heard of. My allegiance within the Church is to the Fraternal Society of St. Peter, which practices and promotes the Latin sacraments, espouses the 'traditional' canon as opposed to your meaningless 'ultra-conservative' labels, and owes its own allegiance to Rome, not to these National Associations of Bishops which have been rife with dissent and individualism since their inception after Vatican 2. I'd suggest you find better sources Spade.
 
bluebyrd35
+1
#309
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

The Winnipeg statement, passed in the immediate aftermath of Humanae Vitae, and the turbulence and dissension that racked the Church in the aftermath of Vatican 2... has NO authority over Catholic belief. It falls into the the pitfalls of many 'national bishops associations' that often worked in opposition to the authority of Rome in the 'modernization' of the Church in 1960s and 70s, and led to a collapse in attendance and vocations. Benedict XVI has since restricted the practice of 'interpreting' Encyclicals to meet 'local' moral standards by these Associations.. which essentially VOIDS the statement. Have no doubt that Humanae Vitae is authorative, and those Catholics who ignore it are in grave dissent with Catholic morality.
The statement itself was met with immediate and vocal opposition, including many Bishops, which found root especially among conservative practicing Catholic pro life advocates. The objections of opponents to the statement are perhaps best summarized in the writings of Msgr. Vincent Foy, who contends, among other things, that the Winnipeg Statement is
is tantamount to blasphemy, has increased dissent in the Church, and is an act of disobedience to the Holy See
has fostered support for homosexuality, the ordination of women and the fundamental 'option' of abortion
is a major factor in the crisis of vocations to the priesthood and religious life
has facilitated...

Quote has been trimmed, See full post: View Post
Now I understand why so many Christians around the world have chucked the Catholic religion. The Catholic hiarachy, as far as many are concerned, have put the final nails in the coffin of Roman Catholism. Not a moment too soon as far as the welfare of the planet is concerned.

A much nastier piece of garbage I have never read!!

Respect for women couldn't get any lower than the place ancient religions consigned them to!! Virtual slaves, with no rights over even their own physical being The idea of strangling the remaining priests with the entrails of the last kings should be made law. I suspect the saying is reverse but the sentiment is the same.
 
Spade
+2
#310
Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

another group i've never heard of. My allegiance within the Church is to the Fraternal Society of St. Peter, which practices and promotes the Latin sacraments, espouses the 'traditional' canon as opposed to your meaningless 'ultra-conservative' labels, and owes its own allegiance to Rome, not to these National Associations of Bishops which have been rife with dissent and individualism since their inception after Vatican 2. I'd suggest you find better sources Spade.

Boy, you'd make a great member of the Inquisition.

I could fashion thumbscrews for you to use in your calling. Excellent for recantations.

PS

Remember, Vatican 2 said all rites Eastern and Western (Latin being but one), are equal. Time for you to brush up.

PS to Bluebyrd,
Coldstream's views are not representative.

What I can't understand is why Catholics on these discussion boards don't challenge him. Superstitious fear?
 
DaSleeper
+2
#311
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

U

Wake up and concentrate......I did not say that particular university gave a course on religion.....Only that if they did, it should be on comparative religion. Flukes is taking LAW.....so why exactly is she and all the rest of the facultiy and students labouring under the Catholic restrictions on birth control regarding insurance, that the church nor the university pays for?? That is FORCING Catholic rules on all students. It may be advertised as a Catholic university but it gets it's revenue from courses such as law etc. If they want to enforce Catholic religion on students, then they should get out of law, engineering or any other course that is not involved with religion.

Can't you get through you thick skull that nobody is forcing anything on anyone there?????

She was at that school by Choice...

She also has the choice to pick another school. End of story!!

What part of freedom of choice don't you understand?????
 
MHz
+1
#312
Christians are slowing down in their ability to effectively persecute somebody with a following. It used to be within 3 days it could be determined if he was a heretic or not. That long of straight water-boarding is more humane than drowing him like the in old days. Confession is still good for the soul.

I hate to think this is a drive from the RCC to open up an orphanage for unwanted children, run by, you know who. Transfer as easy as a confession which has to be forgiven and the child taken care of the ones promoting that quality of life is the same no matter the upbringing conditions.
 
Tonington
+2
#313
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Well, in light of that potential, perhaps we ought to lobby for preventative chemotherapy in advance for all women, you know, just in case.

Chemotherapy is not preventative...it is a drastic therapeutic treatment that does severe harm to your body while killing the cancer cells.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Hell, she can wander down to the local pub and buy 'em in the bathroom for a buck - and $3000 would get her 4 years worth of condoms, presuming that she was hopping in the sack twice a day, each and every day of the year.

Economic fail. Condoms do not offer the same utility as the contraceptive pill. Condoms offer some of the utility, without the numerous benefits and reduced lifetime risk that comes with having a female reproductive system in your body...

Derp.
 
Spade
+2
#314
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Sorry, but your interpretation is incorrect.

What was meant was the incorrect and highly skewed presentation of the parallel that you drew.

Hope that clears it up.

BTW - the cat's OK

The parallel is accurate. How many female Catholic priests are there? The primacy of males; the ancillary function of women - based on religious decree.

Plus 13 in Calgary; must be hell.
 
Locutus
+1
#315
Exposing the liberal troll:


Connecting the Dots: O’Reilly Traces Sandra Fluke to Former White House Adviser




Sandra Fluke Connected to white House Through PR Firm SKDKnickerbocker and Anita Dunn? | Video | TheBlaze.com (external - login to view)
 
Spade
+1
#316
Ahhh, a woman with smarts, connections, AND chutzpah!

They are the worst kind, aren't they? There ought to be a law - civil and religious!
 
CDNBear
+2
#317
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Ahhh, a woman with smarts, connections, AND chutzpah!

They are the worst kind, aren't they? There ought to be a law - civil and religious!

I like it when you are way more levelheaded.

Just a curious question, how did you feel when your mother in law came by and told you to do things, in your home, her way?
 
Tonington
+1
#318
Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

Exposing the liberal troll:


Connecting the Dots: O’Reilly Traces Sandra Fluke to Former White House Adviser




Sandra Fluke Connected to white House Through PR Firm SKDKnickerbocker and Anita Dunn? | Video | TheBlaze.com (external - login to view)

I wonder if the same connect the dots exercise would be validated to connect Harper and the PMO to the robocalls and other shenanigans?
 
Spade
+1
#319
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I like it when you are way more levelheaded.

Just a curious question, how did you feel when your mother in law came by and told you to do things, in your home, her way?

I am levelheaded; my mother-in-law just shouted "Go, boy, go!" Would you not obey? Besides, the issues are not as cut-and-dried as the bishops pretend. This issue is a gawdsend (read diversion).
 
CDNBear
+1
#320
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

I wonder if the same connect the dots exercise would be validated to connect Harper and the PMO to the robocalls and other shenanigans?

It's funny you should say that, since I was just thinking how there's more evidence of Flukes agenda, than in the real flakey connect the dots used to slander the CPC and Racknine.
 
L Gilbert
#321
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

Funny how you can go from never having heard of the Winnipeg statement, to being an expert on its implications and history.

Or maybe, like someone in kindergarten, you have the ability to cut and paste.

... without referencing the author(s). The list is from Winnipeg Statement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (external - login to view)
Last edited by L Gilbert; Mar 9th, 2012 at 05:52 PM..
 
Tonington
+2
#322
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

It's funny you should say that, since I was just thinking how there's more evidence of Flukes agenda

Of course she has an agenda, but the assertion that this was run by Obama's Whitehouse is just as dubious (for now) as linking the robocall scandal to Harper and the PMO. Associations are one thing, causal links are another.
 
CDNBear
+2
#323
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Would you not obey?

Don't know, I don't have a mother in law to worry about. My wife hated her before I had a chance to.

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Of course she has an agenda, but the assertion that this was run by Obama's Whitehouse is just as dubious (for now) as linking the robocall scandal to Harper and the PMO. Associations are one thing, causal links are another.

Bingo. But by the looks of it, the lines are a little finer in Loc's article, than the brush strokes I see flying around the media and CC's pages.
 
L Gilbert
+1
#324
Quote: Originally Posted by LocutusView Post

Exposing the liberal troll:


Connecting the Dots: O’Reilly Traces Sandra Fluke to Former White House Adviser




Sandra Fluke Connected to white House Through PR Firm SKDKnickerbocker and Anita Dunn? | Video | TheBlaze.com (external - login to view)

Personally, I'd take anything O'Reilly says with a handful of salt. This is the same idiot who thinks tides, the sun's "rising" and "setting", water coming into the toilet after flushing, etc. (ad nauseum) is unexplainable.
 
Tonington
+1
#325
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Personally, I'd take anything O'Reilly says with a handful of salt. This is the same idiot who thinks tides, the sun's "rising" and "setting", water coming into the toilet after flushing, etc. (ad nauseum) is unexplainable.

I snickered thinking of that when I read him speaking of "There is no doubt in my mind, in my investigator’s mind..."
 
Cannuck
+1 / -1
#326
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

So, this is about ovarian cancer then?

No, it's about your incredibly moronic statement that she can "guarantee good health if she keeps her legs together". I'm dying to find out where you learned this pearl of wisdom.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Well, in light of that potential, perhaps we ought to lobby for preventative chemotherapy in advance for all women, you know, just in case.

That would be a good idea if the side affects effects, efficacy and costs of chemotherapy were similar to the pill but really, that is for another discussion. For now, we are not done discussing your miracle cure for all that ails women.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

No, it makes Fluke and her ilk hypocrites and abject morons if they can't see clear on spending money to deal with their own personal and individual health concerns.

Well, at least we are moving in the right direction. At least you have come around to the point where you at least view it as a health concern and not just about getting laid.

Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Not "nobody", just women.

...that want to have sex. I think if Cap had his way, these floozies would be wearing something similar to a burka
 
L Gilbert
+1
#327
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

I snickered thinking of that when I read him speaking of "There is no doubt in my mind, in my investigator’s mind..."

Yeah. I wouldn't doubt the stunned jackass doesn't have to learn how to eat every time he gets hungry. "Food goes in. Sh|t comes out. You can't explain that". lol
 
Spade
#328
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

Yeah. I wouldn't doubt the stunned jackass doesn't have to learn how to eat every time he gets hungry. "Food goes in. Sh|t comes out. You can't explain that". lol

Food is prepared; sh*t just happens.
 
L Gilbert
#329
lol Tell that to O'Reilly. He's the one that's puzzled.
 
Spade
+1
#330
Quote: Originally Posted by L GilbertView Post

lol Tell that to O'Reilly. He's the one that's puzzled.

Sorry, I don't spin in the same circles.
 

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