Limbaugh's message to 'feminazis'


gerryh
#271
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

What bullcrap you spout. Religious freedom is the right to pratice a religion,it is not about inflicting a particular belief on anyone else. So perhaps, since you are not of child-bearing age, nor female, you should follow your own advice and STFU.


no one is inflicting beliefs on any one else..... except for the Non Catholics and the u.s. governmant. THEY are trying to inflict their beliefs on a Catholic Institution.
 
Tonington
#272
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

The contraceptives are to prevent pregnancy...that's it...

No Gerry...they aren't. They reduce risks for many diseases that humans with ovaries can get.

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that's what we are talking about. I know some purport that pregnancy is a disease and that the baby is nothing more than a benign growth, I and the Catholic Church do not look at pregnancy in that way.

Liar liar...you can't have read the report.

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Like Colpy says, she wants contraceptives to prevent pregnancy, go buy rubbers. I'll also suggest spermicidal jelly for an added precaution.

It's not your choice. It's between her and her Doctor.

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Oh, and BTW, it was Pope Paul VI, not a Cardinal that wrote the HUMANAE VITAE (On The Regulation Of Birth).



Rose coloured glasses, cardinal and rose, shades of the same colour, Cardinal....ahh forget it.
 
Spade
#273
I wondered what American Catholics were thinking....

From an article on the National Catholic Reporter Website
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"Perhaps most importantly, the bishops can't count on even a majority of the nation's 67 million Catholics to support their position -- whatever it turns out to be. Surveys show that U.S. Catholics -- including the most devout -- do not heed the bishops' teachings against artificial birth control, and framing the issue as a threat to religious freedom hasn't moved Catholics to mass opposition."
 
Colpy
#274
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

What bullcrap you spout. Religious freedom is the right to pratice a religion,it is not about inflicting a particular belief on anyone else. So perhaps, since you are not of child-bearing age, nor female, you should follow your own advice and STFU.

Perhaps you should buy a brain somewhere.......

The gov't is "inflicting a belief" on the Catholic Church.

The church is NOT forcing anyone to attend their university, so they are NOT inflicting anything on anybody.
 
Tonington
+1
#275
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

The church is NOT forcing anyone to attend their university, so they are NOT inflicting anything on anybody.

So then can you explain how the government can be successful at prohibiting smoking inside a business? The employees could choose to work somewhere else...there's a disconnect between how you think the world works, and how it actually works.
 
TenPenny
#276
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Viagra and cialis are not contraceptives.

No, they aren't. However, they are tools to enable men to have gratuitous sex for reasons other than procreation, which is wrong according to what Coldstream says.

So it is OK for the church to fund men going against the church teachings, but not women.
 
captain morgan
#277
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

So it is OK for the church to fund men going against the church teachings, but not women.


Women can take what ever aphrodisiacs that they want, and lets make this really clear - the issue here is contraceptives, not cialis or viagra

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

No Gerry...they aren't. They reduce risks for many diseases that humans with ovaries can get.

And no one is preventing Fluke from accessing it.... But if Fluke is that concerned about her health status, she can guarantee her good health by keeping her legs shut.


Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

It's not your choice. It's between her and her Doctor.

It sure is between the Doc and Fluke - and yet again, no one is stopping her from accessing these contraceptives

Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

Rose coloured glasses, cardinal and rose, shades of the same colour, Cardinal....ahh forget it.
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No problem there - the comment is nothing but forgetable
 
Cannuck
+1
#278
Quote: Originally Posted by ToningtonView Post

No Gerry...they aren't. They reduce risks for many diseases that humans with ovaries can get.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

.... But if Fluke is that concerned about her health status, she can guarantee her good health by keeping her legs shut.

BBC News - Pill 'lowers ovarian cancer risk' (external - login to view)

Please, do tell. How does "keeping her legs shut" guarantee she won't get ovarian cancer?
 
captain morgan
#279
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

BBC News - Pill 'lowers ovarian cancer risk' (external - login to view)

Please, do tell. How does "keeping her legs shut" guarantee she won't get ovarian cancer?


So, this is about ovarian cancer then? Funny, but fluke only mentioned the ovarian disease issue a couple of times but ranted and raved about contraception the remainder of her diatribe.

Well, in light of that potential, perhaps we ought to lobby for preventative chemotherapy in advance for all women, you know, just in case.
 
TenPenny
#280
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Women can take what ever aphrodisiacs that they want, and lets make this really clear - the issue here is contraceptives, not cialis or viagra

The issue is that the university believes that their health plan should not cover contraceptives, and apparently, to argue against that makes one a **** or a ***** who wants the goverment to pay you to have sex.

End of story.
 
captain morgan
+2
#281
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

The issue is that the university believes that their health plan should not cover contraceptives,

.. And?

It's a private Uni, isn't it? If I'm not mistaken, they have the ability and right to engage whatever policies that they want as long as it doesn't contravene the law.

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

and apparently, to argue against that makes one a **** or a ***** who wants the goverment to pay you to have sex.

No, it makes Fluke and her ilk hypocrites and abject morons if they can't see clear on spending money to deal with their own personal and individual health concerns.

In absence of them wanting to assume any form of fiscal responsibility for their own health and lifestyle - yeah, they are looking to get subsidized sex.

End of story.
 
Spade
#282
If ordinary American Catholics ignore their "celibate" male patriarchy on sexual matters (cf. contraception), why is this an issue? I thought, according to Vatican 2, the people were the Church, not the hierarchy. Gawd, American politics is complicated. Obama is criticized for not kowtowing to a lobby group who does not even represent those they claim are their flock.

If, in fact, the flock acquiesced, then American "Catholic" institutions would not have an issue with insurance policies. After all, "women" (May the Gods preserve us!) would not have to be protected against their frailties.

And uppity women would not have to be told to STFU. By the way, by "men" who "champion" free speech.
 
captain morgan
+1
#283
Then, I suppose that this decision is up to 'ordinary American Catholics' isn't it?

Afterall, the people are the Church and from what I've seen, there is no massive outcry from 'ordinary American Catholics' to submit to having their rights stepped all over, so you can appreciate that your allusion towards 'the hierarchy' and the 'ordinary American Catholics' appears to be a self-serving form of your interpretation of Catholicism as opposed to reality.

Which brings us back to the issue of why Obama is wading into the fray... Does Obama speak on behalf of all 'ordinary American Catholics' or is he infringing on the fundamental rights of 'ordinary American Catholics'?.

Nothing complicated about it Spade, it has to do with the federal arm of the government squashing the rights of a religious organization.
 
Spade
#284
My dear Captain, the bishops' cry is all about submission.
 
captain morgan
#285
Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

My dear Captain, the bishops' cry is all about submission.


Since when was Obama considered a Bishop?

I'll bet that Mr. President's letter head looks especially impressive these days.
 
Spade
#286
Is the bishops' letterhead "L'État, C'est Nous!"?
 
captain morgan
#287
French? Are you nuts?

Regardless, I believe that Obama may incorporate this little ditty as his personal moniker.

Summitto Pugno Plebs
 
TenPenny
+1
#288
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

.. And?

It's a private Uni, isn't it? If I'm not mistaken, they have the ability and right to engage whatever policies that they want as long as it doesn't contravene the law.



No, it makes Fluke and her ilk hypocrites and abject morons if they can't see clear on spending money to deal with their own personal and individual health concerns.

In absence of them wanting to assume any form of fiscal responsibility for their own health and lifestyle - yeah, they are looking to get subsidized sex.

End of story.

I missed the part where she didn't want to assume any form of fiscal responsibility for her health, and wanting to get subsidized sex. She was arguing that contraception should be covered by the drug plan, like it is for many others.

You are saying that nobody is allowed to argue for rule changes?
 
Spade
+1
#289
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post


You are saying that nobody is allowed to argue for rule changes?

Not "nobody", just women.

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

French? Are you nuts?

Regardless, I believe that Obama may incorporate this little ditty as his personal moniker.

Summitto Pugno Plebs

Latin, are you nuts!

By the way, I am sure you agree the Catholic Church needs fewer Borgias and more St. Francis.
 
captain morgan
+1
#290
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

I missed the part where she didn't want to assume any form of fiscal responsibility for her health, and wanting to get subsidized sex.

Really? You didn't read the portion of her testimony where she pissed and moaned about spending up $3000 over the course of her law degree for contraception?

Hell, she can wander down to the local pub and buy 'em in the bathroom for a buck - and $3000 would get her 4 years worth of condoms, presuming that she was hopping in the sack twice a day, each and every day of the year.

You gotta wonder where she finds the time to attend class or study.


Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

She was arguing that contraception should be covered by the drug plan, like it is for many others.

She can argue that Bran Flakes be subsidized by insurance under the guise of the health of her bowels for all I care... She still has put a price on her own health, that apparently only has value as long as she doesn't have to pony-up the dough.


Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

You are saying that nobody is allowed to argue for rule changes?


... Or how about she argue that people take responsibility for their own lives and not depend on Big Brother to coddle them along through life.

That asking too much?

Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

Not "nobody", just women.


You are sooooo lucky.

I wish that Obama was subsidizing me each time I buy a box of condoms.
 
TenPenny
#291
You really have to wonder at you obsession with her sex life, but if it keeps you happy, go for it.
 
captain morgan
#292
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

You really have to wonder at you obsession with her sex life, but if it keeps you happy, go for it.


Funny... Considering that you are prepared to support the gvts callous disregard and trammpling of Georgetown University's rights and those of all Catholics - I'd say that it is you that has an extraordinary interest in Fluke's sex life.

Planning a celebratory trip down to DC to congratulate Fluke with some gvt issue rubbers are we?
 
bluebyrd35
#293
Quote: Originally Posted by ColpyView Post

Perhaps you should buy a brain somewhere.......

The gov't is "inflicting a belief" on the Catholic Church.

The church is NOT forcing anyone to attend their university, so they are NOT inflicting anything on anybody.

Excuse me, it is not the "Church" but a University that is supposed to teach "academics". Religion does not belong in a University, except for comparison of all beliefs. It is supported by tuition fees and grants and I would bet my bottom dollar not a penny from the church. I would not be surprised to learn that the church received monies from the university!!

Universities are not there to force Catholism on the rest of the country!! Get real bud. I've got the brain, but you seem to have simply inherited a bunch of muscle between the ears. They are supposed to educate, not indoctrinate!!

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Funny... Considering that you are prepared to support the gvts callous disregard and trammpling of Georgetown University's rights and those of all Catholics - I'd say that it is you that has an extraordinary interest in Fluke's sex life.

Planning a celebratory trip down to DC to congratulate Fluke with some gvt issue rubbers are we?

No just trying to impress on the indoctrinated, they do not have the right to dictate their own, twisted sexual and moral beliefs on others. Why are you focussed on Fluke's sexual life?? She can afford her lifestyle, it is about those unfortunate couples that slip through the cracks.

You do realize that for every unplanned female pregnancy there is or should be a male stuck with the cost of raising an unwanted child. DNA has given women a great deal of leverage in regards to child support these days. Inspite of all this anti-feministic rhetoric, it still takes two persons to make a baby. The days of belief in virgin births has passed.
 
DaSleeper
+1
#294
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

Excuse me, it is not the "Church" but a University that is supposed to teach "academics". Religion does not belong in a University, except for comparison of all beliefs. It is supported by tuition fees and grants and I would bet my bottom dollar not a penny from the church. I would not be surprised to learn that the church received monies from the university!!
Universities are not there to force Catholism on the rest of the country!! Get real bud. I've got the brain, but you seem to have simply inherited a bunch of muscle between the ears. They are supposed to educate, not indoctrinate!!
No just trying to impress on the indoctrinated, they do not have the right to dictate their own, twisted sexual and moral beliefs on others. Why are you focussed on Fluke's sexual life?? She can afford her lifestyle, it is about those unfortunate couples that slip through the cracks.
You do realize that for every unplanned female pregnancy there is or should be a male stuck with the cost of raising an unwanted child. DNA has given women a great deal of leverage in regards to child support these days. Inspite of all this anti-feministic rhetoric, it still takes two persons to make a baby. The days of belief in virgin births has passed.

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Do you go to a chinese restaurant and complain becase they don't have poutine on the menu??????
 
captain morgan
+1
#295
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

No just trying to impress on the indoctrinated, they do not have the right to dictate their own, twisted sexual and moral beliefs on others.

You're referring to Fluke on this, right?
 
bluebyrd35
#296
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

Do you go to a chinese restaurant and complain becase they don't have poutine on the menu??????

LOL Ahh you are finally seeing the light. If you enrole in an excellent law course why should you be straddled with religion??

Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

You're referring to Fluke on this, right?

No!! Obviously she is not the indoctrinated is she!! Try the hall mirror.
 
DaSleeper
#297
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

LOL Ahh you are finally seeing the light. If you enrole in an excellent law course why should you be straddled with religion??

Where did you read that they had a course on religion at that school??? got a link???
 
Spade
#298
I have just read that Karzai (May Allah be praised) has supported, in law, Afghanistan's religious body's declaration that men have primacy in their society and women a secondary role. Where have I heard this over here before?
Last edited by Spade; Mar 9th, 2012 at 12:46 PM..
 
captain morgan
+2
#299
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post


No!! Obviously she is not the indoctrinated is she!!

Au contraire... She is indoctrinated though and possibly the worst kind of indoctrination going. Ms Fluke is under the distinct impression that she bears no responsibility for herself.

Quote: Originally Posted by SpadeView Post

I have just read that Karzai (May Allah be praised) has supported in law Afghanistan's religious body declaration that men have primacy in their society and women a secondary role. Where have I heard this over here before?

I was just reading about a cat stuck in a tree... But that is an aside, I do very much enjoy the very broad extrapolations that you derive from select information... It is a fascinating study into the psyche of those that feel the need to impose their values on entire societies.
 
Spade
#300
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

I was just reading about a cat stuck in a tree... But that is an aside, I do very much enjoy the very broad extrapolations that you derive from select information... It is a fascinating study into the psyche of those that feel the need to impose their values on entire societies.

You mean equality for both men and women in a secular state, without religious interference? That value? Why, thank you, Captain!
 

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