No Hair cut for Anti Gay Gov.


Ocean Breeze
#1
Stylist to anti-gay marriage governor: No haircut for you

U.S. News - Stylist to anti-gay marriage governor: No haircut for you


Jolly good for the stylist. About time these neaderthals and their backward ways joined the current decade and let go of their fanatical (and rediculous ) ideology .

As long as parts of society are treated differently or denied..... then it is a myth to say that freedom reigns in the US.

If they want to get married.....why the heck not?? Not that the heterosexual has made a positive example to live by . Think Kardashian

and a few other splashy couples that got their media time , exchanged a few words , were declared married "in the eyes of god". or whatever......and one quickly realizes that matrimony has become a commercial venture for most of the parties involved. Be sure to get that prenup signed. Part of the business contract.

There is a reason that same sex marriages stand a better chance of working. They as part of the culture have not ;had it easy. They cherish the idea and fact of marriage with a respect that the heterosexual has lost. They cherish the idea of having a family as they know how hard and cruel and unfair life can be. All one has to do is try to put oneself in the shoes of the ones that are prejudiced against. (and for some "religious " notion . Religion and biology don't mix. Never will.

A gay person cannot change their orientation anymore than a black person or any other color ...can change their pigmentation. OK..Michael Jackson tried. How well did it work for him???

Just some thoughts....

More good news.

Quote:

Maryland lawmakers pass bill to allow gay marriage

By msnbc.com staff and news services
State senators approved a gay marriage bill 25-22 Thursday, moving Maryland closer to becoming the eighth state in the U.S. to legalize same-sex marriages.

U.S. News - Maryland lawmakers pass bill to allow gay marriage (external - login to view)


Good for them. Live and let live.
 
taxslave
#2
Good for him. This will probably be the best advertising he can get and it is all free.
 
gopher
#3
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Good for him. This will probably be the best advertising he can get and it is all free.


And the gov's new stylist will probably charge more for those hair cuts.
 
Ocean Breeze
+1
#4
Quote:


An openly-gay judge in Texas is refusing to wed opposite sex couples until same sex couples can be married as well.
“I do not perform them because it is not an equal application of the law. Period,” Judge Tonya Parker said.
Parker, the first openly LGBT African-American elected official in the state’s history, explained at a recent Stonewall Democrats of Dallas meeting why she refused to perform marriages.

Lesbian judge refuses to wed couples until same sex marriage legalized | The Raw Story (external - login to view)

Good for her. Fascinating dynamics .......change is happening whether the **** retetive group want it or not. One person at a time.

the power of a true democratic process. It takes time......but people gradually learn, adapt and accept the fact that the law must treat all people equally.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Good for him. This will probably be the best advertising he can get and it is all free.

indeed. Isn't that all part of the american dream??? Publicity yields awareness , more clients, and more money.

More power to him.

an aside: but it seems that most male hair stylists are gay. Probably because they are more inclined to be artistic. Not a generalization.........just an observation.
 
EagleSmack
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeView Post


an aside: but it seems that most male hair stylists are gay. Probably because they are more inclined to be artistic. Not a generalization.........just an observation.

More bigotry from Breezy.
 
gerryh
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeView Post


an aside: but it seems that most male hair stylists are gay. Probably because they are more inclined to be artistic. Not a generalization.........just an observation.


Yes, it is a generalization, and a bigoted one to boot.

Are all male hairdressers gay? | Answerbag (external - login to view)
 
mentalfloss
+1
#7
I like this idea of banning social conservatives from your product or service.

This needs to catch on.
 
Goober
#8
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I like this idea of banning social conservatives from your product or service.

This needs to catch on.

As a matter of fact it is illegal.
 
skookumchuck
+1
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I like this idea of banning social conservatives from your product or service.

This needs to catch on.


Unless they proselytize or otherwise disrupt your service or business, that would be the same discrimination that many rail against. Hypocrisy?
I am not at all religious but i recognize a "witch hunt" when i see it, even though the form is masked.
 
Goober
#10
Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I like this idea of banning social conservatives from your product or service.

This needs to catch on.

Social Conservatives and Liberals who want to run our lives.
Send them to Sable Island at low tide. After high tide comes and returns to low tide. Please add more.
 
Liberalman
#11
Quote:

He noted that Darden was not her usual hairdresser and that following reports of his decision, the governor's office got calls from more than 10 salons on Wednesday saying they'd be "happy to cut the governor's hair," Darnell told The New Mexican.

Lot of opportunities in boycotts
 
taxslave
+1
#12
Gotta kind of wonder why an anti gay governor would go to a gay hairdresser in the first place.
Also got to wonder why so many of these anti gay marriage types don't want gays to suffer like straight men have to.
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeView Post

Lesbian judge refuses to wed couples until same sex marriage legalized | The Raw Story (external - login to view)

Cool.
Quote:

an aside: but it seems that most male hair stylists are gay. Probably because they are more inclined to be artistic. Not a generalization.........just an observation.

Along with the idea that they have a sincere wish to see their clients look their best.
 
coldstream
+3
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I wonder what kind of response would be elicited if a hairdresser or anyone else in a service profession stated they would not cut anyone's hair who SUPPORTED homosexual 'marriage'. The cacophony of 'homophobe', bigot, would be deafening in the popular press.

Its part of the general hypocrisy and disingenuousness that has always pervaded homosexual 'rights' movement and its aspirations to the status of 'victim'.. where all opinions but those of complete affirmation and legitimization.. even those base on personal religious belief, or common sense, or support of real human dignity rather than unfettered gratification contrary to all natural law.. are deemed to be based on 'hatred'.

I'm sure the Governor won't lose much sleep over it.. i won't. And i'm sure she'll have no trouble finding a replacement.
Last edited by coldstream; Feb 25th, 2012 at 01:41 PM..
 
Goober
+2
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Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

I wonder what kind of response would be elicited if a hairdresser or anyone else in a service profession stated they would not cut anyone's hair who SUPPORTED homosexual 'marriage'. The cacophony of 'homophobe', bigot, would be deafening in the popular press.

Its part of the general hypocrisy and disingenuousness that has always pervaded homosexual 'rights' movement and its aspirations to the status of 'victim'.. where all opinions but those of complete affirmation and legitimization.. even those base on personal religious belief, or common sense, or support of real human dignity rather than unfettered gratification contrary to all natural law.. are deemed to be based on 'hatred'.

I'm sure the Governor won't lose much sleep over it.. i won't. And i'm sure she'll have no trouble finding a replacement.

Let me see a Bigot labelling another a Bigot. Really.
 
DaSleeper
+1
#16
Double Standard anyone???
 
L Gilbert
+4
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Quote: Originally Posted by coldstreamView Post

I wonder what kind of response would be elicited if a hairdresser or anyone else in a service profession stated they would not cut anyone's hair who SUPPORTED homosexual 'marriage'. The cacophony of 'homophobe', bigot, would be deafening in the popular press.

It wasn't when a wedding dress shop refused service for some lesbians a while back. The "cacaphony" was more in blogs and forums than in the press. Kind of like this issue.

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Its part of the general hypocrisy and disingenuousness that has always pervaded homosexual 'rights' movement and its aspirations to the status of 'victim'.. where all opinions but those of complete affirmation and legitimization.. even those base on personal religious belief, or common sense, or support of real human dignity rather than unfettered gratification contrary to all natural law.. are deemed to be based on 'hatred'.

Ah there it is. The usual opinion founded in scientifically ignorant bigotry. "Natural law" has it that a steady percentage of homosexuality has existed throughout human history just like left- or right-handedness and hair color. What you're referring to is "religious law".

Quote:

I'm sure the Governor won't lose much sleep over it.. i won't. And i'm sure she'll have no trouble finding a replacement.

Yep. Plenty of hairdressers around. That proves nothing except there is an abundance of opinions.
 
Ocean Breeze
#18
What is hard to accept is that this is even an issue in current times. But then "religious" laws are what keep the believers in prejudicial mode .........something that true spirituality would denounce in a NY second.

The reality is that human ATTITUDES are so hard to change. It takes a few generations and the demise of the prejudial minds before true change takes place where these issues are non issues.

What is truly astounding is how backwards the religious mentality remains. (be it about the gay population, abortion , contraception . Notice that all of the above relate to personal sexual and reproductive issues. How on earth do those have any thing at all to do with spiritual and personal (internal ) growth??? (and evolution) They are biological factors. Not religious issues, and only become legal issues when abused in a destructive manner. ( rape etc)

IF relgious laws were based on true humanitarian principles .....they might be worth considering as a model for living. As they stand.....they do more harm than good. Brainwashing being the first and formost principle to be dispelled. Independant thought and reason must prevail......if civilization is to make progress.
 
Goober
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[QUOTE=Ocean Breeze;1552319]What is hard to accept is that this is even an issue in current times. But then "religious" laws are what keep the believers in prejudicial mode .........something that true spirituality would denounce in a NY second.
QUOTE]

Lots of people without as they say Religion that are racists.
 
EagleSmack
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

I like this idea of banning social conservatives from your product or service.

This needs to catch on.

As in... discriminate?
 
bluebyrd35
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

More bigotry from Breezy.

You know there is a difference between observation of the obvious and bigotry. I know several hair dressers that are male and are gay... so what?? I also know of quite a few male orderlies that are gay, and I can understand how the more gentle and caring occupations appeal to those who's sexual genes are geared less to the warrior cast than the average. It works two ways, I have seen quite a number of female truck drivers with burly muscles, that many of their male counterparts step carefully around. Humanity does not fit into neat little boxes, but observation of that fact does not indicate bigotry.

Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

As in... discriminate?

hmmmm.....you do realize that when choosing any candidate/ideal, you must discriminate?? When voting for one candidate, you are automatically discriminating against all others. Discriminating taste is choosing, in one's opinion, those persons/solutions, closest to one's ideal.

[QUOTE=Goober;1552322]
Quote: Originally Posted by Ocean BreezeView Post

What is hard to accept is that this is even an issue in current times. But then "religious" laws are what keep the believers in prejudicial mode .........something that true spirituality would denounce in a NY second.
QUOTE]

Lots of people without as they say Religion that are racists.

And even more with religion are racists. The difference is that most religions insideously encourage that stance. Some early religious or familial indoctrination of secularists, unfortunately linger.

Can someone define "true:" spirituality?? For sometime, I was impressed with Ghandi's approach to spirit, but finding even this icon of the time, had some really nasty clay feet, pissed me off.
 
EagleSmack
+2
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Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

You know there is a difference between observation of the obvious and bigotry. I know several hair dressers that are male and are gay... so what?? I also know of quite a few male orderlies that are gay, and I can understand how the more gentle and caring occupations appeal to those who's sexual genes are geared less to the warrior cast than the average. It works two ways, I have seen quite a number of female truck drivers with burly muscles, that many of their male counterparts step carefully around. Humanity does not fit into neat little boxes, but observation of that fact does not indicate bigotry.

Saying most male hair stylist are gay is not being a bigot? It most certainly is.


Quote:

hmmmm.....you do realize that when choosing any candidate/ideal, you must discriminate?? When voting for one candidate, you are automatically discriminating against all others. Discriminating taste is choosing, in one's opinion, those persons/solutions, closest to one's ideal.

So denial of services to one who is different or thinks different is not discriminating? Interesting.


 
Ocean Breeze
#23
[QUOTE]=bluebyrd35;1552507]You know there is a difference between observation of the obvious and bigotry. I know several hair dressers that are male and are gay... so what?? I also know of quite a few male orderlies that are gay, and I can understand how the more gentle and caring occupations appeal to those who's sexual genes are geared less to the warrior cast than the average. It works two ways, I have seen quite a number of female truck drivers with burly muscles, that many of their male counterparts step carefully around. Humanity does not fit into neat little boxes, but observation of that fact does not indicate bigotry.



hmmmm.....you do realize that when choosing any candidate/ideal, you must discriminate?? When voting for one candidate, you are automatically discriminating against all others. Discriminating taste is choosing, in one's opinion, those persons/solutions, closest to one's ideal.

Quote: Originally Posted by GooberView Post


And even more with religion are racists. The difference is that most religions insideously encourage that stance. Some early religious or familial indoctrination of secularists, unfortunately linger.

Can someone define "true:" spirituality?? For sometime, I was impressed with Ghandi's approach to spirit, but finding even this icon of the time, had some really nasty clay feet, pissed me off.

Bluebird: (nice name btw) . Lovely to read a "voice of REASON" thx for being here. As you too know, nothing is black and white or fits in little boxes with a label.

Goober: there is no such thing as perfect spirituality in a HUMAN BEING. All humans are humans first. Inner spiritual growth is a personal path into a higher enlightenment.........where things like bias, judgement, prejudice, hatred , resentment and other such attitudes are gradually diminished into a calm and tolerant but reasonable essence. One of the first steps would be to get out of the idol worship thing. No person or thing should be idolized or given supernatural attributes. As all that does is create unrealistic expectations of said idol and becomes a trip wire for a fall. No human being can live up to unrealistic expectations. We see that dynamic in the celeb crowd all the time. They are built up and torn down on a whim.

Just sayin'
 
bluebyrd35
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Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

Saying most male hair stylist are gay is not being a bigot? It most certainly is.





So denial of services to one who is different or thinks different is not discriminating? Interesting.


Sof , If I state most women prefer pink cheek rouge than men do, I am not stating the obvious but being a bigot?? How many male hairdressers do you actually know??

I made no statement about denying services being discrimatory. Who cuts a bigot's hair should be the choice of the deliverer of the service. I would tend to discrimate selling an animal I raised to someone I knew would use it in a bloodsport, it is my right.

Any decision one makes in a choice between two or more options is by it's very nature, discrimatory. Any opinion acted on will be contrary to it's opposite.....

Try relating it to denying a child dessert when he/she refused to eat a meal. Sometimes even adults need to be reminded there are consequences to their actions.
 
Machjo
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Gotta kind of wonder why an anti gay governor would go to a gay hairdresser in the first place.
Also got to wonder why so many of these anti gay marriage types don't want gays to suffer like straight men have to.

Is he anti-gay or anti-gay-marriage, or something else. Details matter too here. Maybe he had no issue with homosexuality per se, but only homosexual relations; one being a passive state of being, the other active expression.
 
Ocean Breeze
#26
ES: did I not say that it was an OBSERVATION . Not a GENERALIZATION?? And as Bluebird says....there are professions that lend themselves to certain personalities . Hair stylists are artists and that requires creativity , pliability, flexibility etc......and many gay men are very well suited to that job. I have only met ONE heterosexual in the trade and he did not come close to the artistry and creativity that a gay man has. Again.....it is an observation. Not a generalization.

Instead of branding a poster a certain name.........why not present YOUR experiences .

Now.....Barbers are mostly ( again an observation) hetero sexual. But even that is changing as men go to stylists more frequently in current times.

In the final analysis........what matters is that one is happy with their stylist ......regardless of gender ORIENTATION. (not "preference" as that does not apply)
 
bluebyrd35
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Quote: Originally Posted by MachjoView Post

Is he anti-gay or anti-gay-marriage, or something else. Details matter too here. Maybe he had no issue with homosexuality per se, but only homosexual relations; one being a passive state of being, the other active expression.

What!!....Tell me what the fine distinction between an anti-gay bigot and one who is against gay marriage??

Could that be because religion disapproves of the existence of a whole group of humans ?? You bet!!. But why?? It is like disapproving of diabetes.......!! Both are to due to genetics.

Marriage is a union between two persons/objects/definitions, inspite of sexual orientation. It is a state arrived at, in the case of humans, by mutual consent in most civilized countries. The state needs to simply acknowledge that union, and treat it as they treat the wedded majority.

Did you know that marriage was arranged by parents and/or a friend of the family of the groom, in biblical times. Negotiations entered into re dowry etc. without input from the bride who was merely a bargaining chip in many cases. There was no marriage ceremony, simply a blessing. It was considered official when the bride moved from her father's house to that of the groom's home. A man could divorce the wife, by simply by saying "I divorce you". Didn't work the other way around though.

Now, as a female, I do NOT think much of biblical marriage and wonder why gay or heterosexual persons are so bound up in restricting or gaining admission to such a state. Very choice example of stupid discrimatory wrangling.
 
gerryh
+2
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All the way through junior high school and the beginning of senior High I was picked on and bullied because I was perceived to be gay because of certain actions and traits. I was pigeon holed and stereotyped. Much the same as ob and bb are doing when talking about male hairdressers, and now male nurses. It IS a bigoted mindset and does NOTHING to forward GBLT rights and as a matter of fact moves them backwards rather than forward. We would be better off if idiots like ob and bb would keep their mouths shut about their "support" for GBLT rights as they do more harm than good.

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CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

How many male hairdressers do you actually know??

None, but I know a swishy gay male wedding planner, whose mechanic husband is more manly than I.

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

We would be better off if idiots like ob and bb would keep their mouths shut about their "support" for GBLT rights as they do more harm than good.

Funny, that same swishy wedding planner and manly mechanic, say the same thing about Gay Pride and the bulk of its participants.
 
Machjo
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by bluebyrd35View Post

What!!....Tell me what the fine distinction between an anti-gay bigot and one who is against gay marriage??
Could that be because religion disapproves of the existence of a whole group of humans ?? You bet!!. But why?? It is like disapproving of diabetes.......!! Both are to due to genetics.
Marriage is a union between two persons/objects/definitions, inspite of sexual orientation. It is a state arrived at, in the case of humans, by mutual consent in most civilized countries. The state needs to simply acknowledge that union, and treat it as they treat the wedded majority.
Did you know that marriage was arranged by parents and/or a friend of the family of the groom, in biblical times. Negotiations entered into re dowry etc. without input from the bride who was merely a bargaining chip in many cases. There was no marriage ceremony, simply a blessing. It was considered official when the bride moved from her father's house to that of the groom's home. A man could divorce the wife, by simply by saying "I divorce you". Didn't work the other way around though.
Now, as a female, I do NOT think much of biblical marriage and wonder why gay or heterosexual persons are so bound up in restricting or gaining admission to such a state. Very choice example of stupid discrimatory wrangling.

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