Air Canada's pilots vote 97% for strike


mentalfloss
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Air Canada's pilots vote 97% for strike

The union representing Air Canada's pilots voted overwhelmingly in favour of strike action Tuesday, but the pilots insist the move is "defensive" and that passengers have nothing to worry about.

The Air Canada Pilots Association membership voted 97 per cent in favour of a strike. The union, which represents the airline's 3,000 pilots, said it shows the pilots' dedication to reaching a negotiated settlement with the airline.

Union president Paul Strachan said Tuesday night the vote results translated to the ability to even the playing field with the company, which was in a position to enforce a legal lockout. The union has been without a collective agreement since March 31, 2011.

Air Canada and the pilots' union have been attempting to reach a new agreement since October 2010. The two sides have been engaged in negotiations through a conciliator since last November.

Labour Minister Lisa Raitt said in a statement Tuesday she is offering Air Canada and its pilots a new mediator and a six-month process to help them settle their contract negotiations.

Strachan said Tuesday night negotiations will continue with a new mediator when the appointment is finalized. Air Canada also has said it is confident it can avoid a labour disruption and that talks will continue.

In her statement, Raitt cited the fragile economy as a primary reason to avoid any labour disruption at Canada's largest air carrier.

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taxslave
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Meanwhile in important news Canadians voted 98% in favor of ignoring Air Canada.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Meanwhile in important news Canadians voted 98% in favor of ignoring Air Canada.

Therefore confirming that Canadians don't care about pilots and thus concluding this thread.
 
petros
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97% speaks very loudly but what does it say?
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

97% speaks very loudly but what does it say?

The underlying message here is to buy shares in Westjet.
 
petros
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Westjet sucks raw moose dick.
 
captain morgan
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An AC strike will bump the value of Westjet and just in time for the launch of their regional service.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

An AC strike will bump the value of Westjet and just in time for the launch of their regional service.

Then management better make sure that their pilots don't strike.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Then management better make sure that their pilots don't strike.


They're non-union.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

They're non-union.

Then how can they strike?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

An AC strike will bump the value of Westjet and just in time for the launch of their regional service.

Regional service? I won't have to fly to Calgary to get to Winnipeg? They can't even handle all of West Can.

Would 97% of the pilots still feel under paid if they were non-union? Or unions just get them riled up for no reason?
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Then how can they strike?

I thought you were talking about the Westjet pilots.

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Regional service? I won't have to fly to Calgary to get to Winnipeg? They can't even handle all of West Can.

When they get the regional subsidiary up and running, you won't have that issue... But then again, if you're opting to fly to Wpg via the milk run, chances are that the comparative cost with AC prompted you to take on that head ache.


Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Would 97% of the pilots still feel under paid if they were non-union? Or unions just get them riled up for no reason?

Who cares?

If the AC pilots feel underpaid, they can always seek employment with another airline or go flip burgers... Nothing stopping them from making the best decision for themselves.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

If the AC pilots feel underpaid, they can always seek employment with another airline or go flip burgers... Nothing stopping them from making the best decision for themselves.

Well that's not true.

They have the option to strike, right?
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

I thought you were talking about the Westjet pilots.



When they get the regional subsidiary up and running, you won't have that issue... But then again, if you're opting to fly to Wpg via the milk run, chances are that the comparative cost with AC prompted you to take on that head ache.




Who cares?

If the AC pilots feel underpaid, they can always seek employment with another airline or go flip burgers... Nothing stopping them from making the best decision for themselves.

I'd never fly on a minimum wage airline. Would you?

Why didn't Westjet by Time Air when they had the chance if they wanted to be regional?

Milk run? The milk run IS through Calgary and time is money bub.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Well that's not true.

They'ew threatening a strike because everything is going so well?

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

They have the option to strike, right?


Yup.. They most certainly do.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Yup.. They most certainly do.

Right.

So there options are not simply: "deal with it or start flipping burgers".
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

I'd never fly on a minimum wage airline. Would you?

$178/hour is just slightly above min wage

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Why didn't Westjet by Time Air when they had the chance if they wanted to be regional?

I'm thinking that their business model didn't have a regional service ready to be executed... But then again, you'd probably have to ask the CEO that question

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Milk run? The milk run IS through Calgary and time is money bub.

The answer is simple then, pay the money and fly direct or charter a private plane.

Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

Right.

So there options are not simply: "deal with it or start flipping burgers".

I suppose it is... If the AC pilots are unhappy, then they can make a decision from any number of options... Flipping burgers is one of those options.

Hell, another option is to start their own airline and pay themselves whatever amount their heart's desire.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

Hell, another option is to start their own airline and pay themselves whatever amount their heart's desire.

And another option is to become President of the U.S.A.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by mentalflossView Post

And another option is to become President of the U.S.A.


....And?

Oh wait, I see...

Hey! Look over there!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

....And?

Oh wait, I see...

Hey! Look over there!>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

I said the U.S. prez, not Justin Trudeau.
 
captain morgan
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wtf!
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

wtf!

 
WLDB
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I vote to stay on the ground 100% of the time. Well, aside from when im in my tower.
 
TenPenny
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

I'd never fly on a minimum wage airline. Would you?

How about that one where the pilot crashed into some houses in Buffalo, she had something like 3 jobs, including at a Starbucks, in order to make a living, and rarely got much sleep.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

$178/hour is just slightly above min wage



The answer is simple then, pay the money and fly direct or charter a private plane.

$187...now why would airline pilots make so much? They aren't a dime a dozen?

Fly direct? On Westjet you can't get there from here.

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

How about that one where the pilot crashed into some houses in Buffalo, she had something like 3 jobs, including at a Starbucks, in order to make a living, and rarely got much sleep.

She was working for a regional wasn't she? Held back from getting the flight hours to make full time money.
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

$187...now why would airline pilots make so much? They aren't a dime a dozen?

Great... Then the AC pilots don't need to strike, just walk across the tarmac to the next airline that is willing to pay them what they want, or if they desire, go flip burgers.

I really don't care.

Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Fly direct? On Westjet you can't get there from here.


Then fly AC or charter a plane.. Who says that you are forced to fly Westjet?
 
petros
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They suck.
 
captain morgan
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Then I guess that leaves you needing to charter a private plane.
 
mentalfloss
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Quote: Originally Posted by WLDBView Post

I vote to stay on the ground 100% of the time. Well, aside from when im in my tower.

Is it made of ivory?
 
L Gilbert
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Westjet sucks raw moose dick.

Still loads better than Air Crappola.
 
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