Northern Gateway may be a Railroad


jjaycee98
#1
The extention of the railroad from Northeastern BC, parrallel to the Alaska Highway has been bandied about for a number of years. This has again come to the attention of many as an alternative to an Enbridge pipeline and construction of a sea port by the Government of Canada which would cost Millions- if not Billions. Both of these are endlessly controversial to the Environment.

Alaskan legislators would certainly like to see the Rail line, and recently stepping up their campaign. They already have the Port Facility and the access to open water needed to accomodate huge tankers at Valdez.. The Oil from the North Slope is running out and the traffic is subsequently less. Heavy Oil could be shipped to both the US and China from there.

The First Nations and Metis are on board to give their approval to a rail line as being less invasive to the land than miles of pipeline and then the disturbance of Coastal Land to build a Sea Port; to say nothing of the dangers of navigating huge Tankers through a mirade of Islands to reach open water. The corridor to Alaska has been cut and open since the Second World war and has remained stable.

There is new, stronger steel for rails. The Trains themselves can be equipped to monitor the Tracks, through modern technology. Maintenence would have to be dilligent and considering the volumn and the money involved, safety could be acheived.
 
Cliffy
#2
Too sensible and not enough environmental damage for the rapers and pillagers. The Captain would never approve.
 
dumpthemonarchy
#3
Oil producers look to pipeline alternatives (external - login to view)
Here's a link for that.


Says here the oil we sell to the USA is ten dollars a barrel less than North Sea, Saudi or Iranian oil sells for. Selling oil to China will help us get $110 a barrel instead of $98 a barrel. We sell WTI, not Brent.
Energy & Oil Prices: Natural Gas, Electricity and Oil - Bloomberg (external - login to view)
 
JLM
#4
Quote: Originally Posted by jjaycee98View Post

The extention of the railroad from Northeastern BC, parrallel to the Alaska Highway has been bandied about for a number of years. This has again come to the attention of many as an alternative to an Enbridge pipeline and construction of a sea port by the Government of Canada which would cost Millions- if not Billions. Both of these are endlessly controversial to the Environment.

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I fail to see how one is an alternative to the other.
 
petros
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captain morgan
#6
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Too sensible and not enough environmental damage for the rapers and pillagers. The Captain would never approve.


So... You'd rather have numerous tanker cars riding the rails over the rivers and creeks as opposed to a contained p/l? You sure are one strange bird Cliffy - Ya might think about getting better informed.

Regardless, both CN and CPR have offerings in place that will move the material by rail, once their costs become more competitive, you can expect to see an endless line of bitumen being transported through your community.
 
petros
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

So... You'd rather have numerous tanker cars riding the rails over the rivers and creeks as opposed to a contained p/l? You sure are one strange bird Cliffy - Ya might think about getting better informed.

Regardless, both CN and CPR have offerings in place that will move the material by rail, once their costs become more competitive, you can expect to see an endless line of bitumen being transported through your community.

I haven't heard a single complaint about the potential for a potash train crashing into a major salmon river.
 
captain morgan
#8
.. Or sulphur... Hell, I haven't heard a peep about all of the arsenic that is used for gold extraction
 
petros
#9
Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

.. Or sulphur... Hell, I haven't heard a peep about all of the arsenic that is used for gold extraction

Or all the U238 from far North SK on trucks that could crash into lake superior or be in a crash and burn along the way to Southern ON.
 
TenPenny
#10
To think that a rail line is a less-environmentally damaging and/or more efficient alternative to a piplineis completely bizarre.
 
JLM
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by TenPennyView Post

To think that a rail line is a less-environmentally damaging and/or more efficient alternative to a piplineis completely bizarre.

Like comparing apples to oranges!
 
petros
#12
Does this mean the LNG port is off the table too? Doesn't BC want to sell it's nat gas?
 
captain morgan
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Does this mean the LNG port is off the table too? Doesn't BC want to sell it's nat gas?


There are multiple proposals already in place for west coast LNG's, along with the P/Ls to support them.
 
petros
#14
Yup and for the Mac valley and delta too. I don't hear any boo hoo hoos over those.
 
captain morgan
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Yup and for the Mac valley and delta too. I don't hear any boo hoo hoos over those.


You bet. The BC gvt knows exactly how much they stand to gain in royalties, revenues and payroll taxes by hosting those projects including the money that the Port Authority will collect on the water passage.
 

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