Halal and kosher hit by Dutch ban

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BBC News - Halal and kosher hit by Dutch ban

Next month the Dutch parliament is expected to approve a ban on halal and kosher methods of slaughtering animals for food.
Those who proposed the ban say it is simply an issue of animal welfare, but it received strong support from the right-wing Freedom Party.
Many see it as a violation of their religious freedom, and among the Jewish community it is a worrying echo of a similar ban brought in by Hitler.
 

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BBC News - Halal and kosher hit by Dutch ban

Next month the Dutch parliament is expected to approve a ban on halal and kosher methods of slaughtering animals for food.
Those who proposed the ban say it is simply an issue of animal welfare, but it received strong support from the right-wing Freedom Party.
Many see it as a violation of their religious freedom, and among the Jewish community it is a worrying echo of a similar ban brought in by Hitler.

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Temple Grandin is probably one of the world's foremost experts on animal handling systems. She gave a seminar at my school, and it was standing room only, a very good presentation. She has recommendations for religious slaughter. If the knife is sharp, and the butcher is experienced, the animals don't show any indications of pain, which has actually been confirmed with EEG measurements of the electrical stimuli in the brain. In her audits of the slaughter plants, it's actually the handling system and restraints which cause the most distress and risk of injury.

Captive bolt stunning can actually be worse. But to the animal welfare Nazis, blood will always look worse.
 

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Apparently Kosher and Halal meats will still be available but the ritual slaughter just won't be allowed to take place in the country (the meat will be brought in from other countries)
So basically all this law is accomplishing is reducing the quality of the meat and putting people out of work.
 

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It's funny, halal and kosher methods of slaughtering animals are objected to because the animal is believed to suffer in the act of killing it. Approved methods of killing animals involves killing them as quickly and painlessly as possible. The focus is on the animal's suffering at the point of death. But in modern industrialized farming, the animal suffers it's entire life.

"Oh sure, chickens are kept in dark cages, unable to walk, standing in their own **** and pumped full of hormones, but at least their throats aren't slit and bled to death - that would be cruel."
 

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Mega factory farm total more than doubled

Friday 21 January 2011
The Netherlands now has some 242 ‘mega’ factory farms for cows and pigs compared with just 95 five years ago, according to environmental organisation Milieudefensie.
The organisation bases its claims on research by Wageningen University institute Alterra. A mega farm is defined by Alterra as one which has 7,500 pigs or 250 dairy cows or 2,500 veal calves.
Most of the mega farms are in Noord-Brabant, Overijssel, Limburg and Gelderland provinces, where they have generated considerable local protest.
The Netherlands is one of the most animal intensive farming countries in the world, with annual production of 450 million animals and birds for consumption.
The move towards mega farms is part of ongoing consolidation with farming. Last year, the Netherlands had some 50,000 livestock farms, compared with 78,000 10 years ago.


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Temple Grandin is probably one of the world's foremost experts on animal handling systems. She gave a seminar at my school, and it was standing room only, a very good presentation. She has recommendations for religious slaughter. If the knife is sharp, and the butcher is experienced, the animals don't show any indications of pain, which has actually been confirmed with EEG measurements of the electrical stimuli in the brain. In her audits of the slaughter plants, it's actually the handling system and restraints which cause the most distress and risk of injury.

Captive bolt stunning can actually be worse. But to the animal welfare Nazis, blood will always look worse.

When I was young, on the farm we used a method similar to the halal or kosher method which consists of cutting the carotid artery so as to get the most of the blood out of the animal with the heart beating so it doesn't have to be hung so long to drain the meat.
In the case of pigs, it was also to collect the maximum amount of blood for "Boudin".
Probably the reason muslims also cut the esophagus is so the animal doesn't make any noise before dying.
In the case of pigs, who squealed a lot, I suggested to my mom once that if we shot it in the forehead with a .22 and then used a type of chest compressions by separating and closing the front legs of the animal to get the blood out we might get as much out as with the other method...and we did...
With cattle, a sledgehammer to the forehead did the trick, and the heart would pump the blood out.