UN agency OKs Palestinian membership; US objects

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UNESCO OKs Palestinian membership; US objects - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com


PARIS — The U.S. said a vote earlier Monday by UNESCO, the U.N. cultural and educational agency, to allow Palestinian membership could harm renewed Mideast peace efforts.

Palestine became a full member of UNESCO in a highly divisive breakthrough that could cost the agency a fifth of its budget.
Lawmakers in the United States, which provides about 22 percent of UNESCO's funding, had threatened to halt some $80 million in annual funding if Palestinian membership was approved. It wasn't clear in the immediate aftermath of Monday's vote whether the threat would become reality.



White House spokesman Jay Carney called UNESCO's decision "premature" and said it undermines the international community's goal of a comprehensive Middle East peace plan. He called it a distraction from the goal of restarting direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.



Monday's vote is a grand symbolic victory for the Palestinians, but it alone won't make Palestine into a state. The issue of borders of an eventual Palestinian state, security troubles and other disputes that have thwarted Middle East peace for decades remain unresolved.
Huge cheers went up in the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization after delegates approved the membership in a vote of 107-14 with 52 abstentions. Eighty-one votes were needed for approval in a hall with 173 UNESCO member delegations present.



"Long Live Palestine!" shouted one delegate, in French, at the unusually tense and dramatic meeting of UNESCO's General Conference.



Even if the vote's impact isn't felt right away in the Mideast, it will be quickly felt at UNESCO. Aside from the U.S. funding cut threat, Israel's Foreign Ministry said it "will consider its further ... cooperation with the organization" after Monday's vote.
The U.N. agency protects historic heritage sites and works to improve world literacy, access to schooling for girls and cultural understanding, but it also has come under criticism in the past as a forum for anti-Israel sentiment.



It depends heavily on U.S. funding, but has survived without it in the past: The United States pulled out of UNESCO under President Ronald Reagan, rejoining two decades later under President George W. Bush.



Palestinian officials are seeking full membership in the United Nations, but that effort is still under examination and the U.S. has pledged a veto unless there is a peace deal with Israel. Given that, the Palestinians separately sought membership at Paris-based UNESCO. All the efforts are part of a broader push by the Palestinian Authority under Mahmoud Abbas for greater international recognition in recent years.



"Joy fills my heart. This is really an historic moment," said Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki. "We hope that today's victory at UNESCO marks but a beginning. Our admission to UNESCO is not an alternative, is no substitute for something else."
UNESCO, like other U.N. agencies, is a part of the world body but has separate membership procedures and can make its own decisions about which countries belong. Full U.N. membership is not required for membership in many of the U.N. agencies.
Monday's vote is definitive, and the membership formally takes effect when Palestine signs UNESCO's founding charter.
Israel's outspoken foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, said before the vote that if it passed, Israel should cut off ties with the Palestinian Authority. It was not clear whether he was voicing an individual opinion or government policy. He has a history of making comments embarrassing to the prime minister.



The U.S. ambassador to UNESCO, David Killion, said Monday's vote will "complicate" U.S. efforts to support the agency. The United States voted against the measure.



Existing U.S. law can bar Washington from funding any U.N. body that accepts members that do not have the "internationally recognized attributes of statehood." That requirement is generally interpreted to mean U.N. membership.
Ghasan Khatib, spokesman for the Palestinian government in the West Bank, urged the United States to keep UNESCO funding.
He called it "a vote of confidence from the international community."



"We look at this vote as especially important because part of our battle with the Israeli occupation is about the occupation attempts to erase the Palestinian history or Judaizing it. The UNESCO vote will help us to maintain the Palestinian traditional heritage, " he said.
Israel's ambassador to UNESCO, Nimrod Barkan, called the vote a tragedy. "They've forced a drastic cut in contributions to the organization," he said.



"UNESCO deals in science, not science fiction," he said. "They forced on UNESCO a political subject out of its competence."
Also Monday, a Bosnian presidential adviser said Bosnia will be forced to abstain from any U.N. vote for Palestinian statehood — dealing a tough blow to Palestinian hopes of rallying the required nine-vote majority in a U.N. Security Council vote in New York. Palestinian officials have said they already have eight votes, and were counting heavily on Bosnia to give them the ninth.
 

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LOL! U.S cut them off for cronyism allegations? How ironic and so very hypocritical that would be! No, if they cut them that certainly won't be the reason for it.
Israel is afraid to death that Palestine will be recognized as a state, because when that happens Israel is then held liable for their war crimes and unending settlements on land not belonging to them.
 

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UNESCO would approve UN Membership for flys and worms.

In 1947, the United Nations agreed to divide the old League of Nations mandate in Palestine into two countries, Palestine and Israel. The Israeli's accepted that, the Palestinians, and their Arab neighbors refused.

From 1948-1967, ALL of what was supposed to become the Country of Palestine was occupied by Jordan and Egypt. They both ANNEXED that territory into their countries. it was not until bot Jordan and Egypt were utterly defeated in the 1967 war, and Israel militarily took all of that land, that suddenly those two countries gave up any interest in it, and began to bleat about the poor Palestinians and who they were being mistreated.

WHO forced the Palestinians into refugee camps? Their fellow Muslims did.

Who refused to allow the vast majority of Palestinians to have Jordanian, or Egyptian (or Syrian or Lebanese) citizenship, even though those Palestinians had been born in those countries? Their fellow Muslims did.

But all of the blame for everything is put on Israel?

Mr. Abbas just admitted that a terrible mistake was made in 1947, by NOT accepting a country of Palestine. Gee, you think?
 

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UNESCO can say what they want.

I initially read the title as UN and had my WTF moment. Palestine will not get the support it needs to be recognized as a state, and if it does, the U.S. will just veto.
 

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UNESCO OKs Palestinian membership; US objects - World news - Mideast/N. Africa - msnbc.com


PARIS — The U.S. said a vote earlier Monday by UNESCO, the U.N. cultural and educational agency, to allow Palestinian membership could harm renewed Mideast peace efforts.

Palestine became a full member of UNESCO in a highly divisive breakthrough that could cost the agency a fifth of its budget.
Lawmakers in the United States, which provides about 22 percent of UNESCO's funding, had threatened to halt some $80 million in annual funding if Palestinian membership was approved. It wasn't clear in the immediate aftermath of Monday's vote whether the threat would become reality.



White House spokesman Jay Carney called UNESCO's decision "premature" and said it undermines the international community's goal of a comprehensive Middle East peace plan. He called it a distraction from the goal of restarting direct negotiations between Israel and the Palestinians.



Monday's vote is a grand symbolic victory for the Palestinians, but it alone won't make Palestine into a state. The issue of borders of an eventual Palestinian state, security troubles and other disputes that have thwarted Middle East peace for decades remain unresolved.
Huge cheers went up in the United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization after delegates approved the membership in a vote of 107-14 with 52 abstentions. Eighty-one votes were needed for approval in a hall with 173 UNESCO member delegations present.



"Long Live Palestine!" shouted one delegate, in French, at the unusually tense and dramatic meeting of UNESCO's General Conference.



Even if the vote's impact isn't felt right away in the Mideast, it will be quickly felt at UNESCO. Aside from the U.S. funding cut threat, Israel's Foreign Ministry said it "will consider its further ... cooperation with the organization" after Monday's vote.
The U.N. agency protects historic heritage sites and works to improve world literacy, access to schooling for girls and cultural understanding, but it also has come under criticism in the past as a forum for anti-Israel sentiment.



It depends heavily on U.S. funding, but has survived without it in the past: The United States pulled out of UNESCO under President Ronald Reagan, rejoining two decades later under President George W. Bush.



Palestinian officials are seeking full membership in the United Nations, but that effort is still under examination and the U.S. has pledged a veto unless there is a peace deal with Israel. Given that, the Palestinians separately sought membership at Paris-based UNESCO. All the efforts are part of a broader push by the Palestinian Authority under Mahmoud Abbas for greater international recognition in recent years.



"Joy fills my heart. This is really an historic moment," said Palestinian Foreign Minister Riad Malki. "We hope that today's victory at UNESCO marks but a beginning. Our admission to UNESCO is not an alternative, is no substitute for something else."
UNESCO, like other U.N. agencies, is a part of the world body but has separate membership procedures and can make its own decisions about which countries belong. Full U.N. membership is not required for membership in many of the U.N. agencies.
Monday's vote is definitive, and the membership formally takes effect when Palestine signs UNESCO's founding charter.
Israel's outspoken foreign minister, Avigdor Lieberman, said before the vote that if it passed, Israel should cut off ties with the Palestinian Authority. It was not clear whether he was voicing an individual opinion or government policy. He has a history of making comments embarrassing to the prime minister.



The U.S. ambassador to UNESCO, David Killion, said Monday's vote will "complicate" U.S. efforts to support the agency. The United States voted against the measure.



Existing U.S. law can bar Washington from funding any U.N. body that accepts members that do not have the "internationally recognized attributes of statehood." That requirement is generally interpreted to mean U.N. membership.
Ghasan Khatib, spokesman for the Palestinian government in the West Bank, urged the United States to keep UNESCO funding.
He called it "a vote of confidence from the international community."



"We look at this vote as especially important because part of our battle with the Israeli occupation is about the occupation attempts to erase the Palestinian history or Judaizing it. The UNESCO vote will help us to maintain the Palestinian traditional heritage, " he said.
Israel's ambassador to UNESCO, Nimrod Barkan, called the vote a tragedy. "They've forced a drastic cut in contributions to the organization," he said.



"UNESCO deals in science, not science fiction," he said. "They forced on UNESCO a political subject out of its competence."
Also Monday, a Bosnian presidential adviser said Bosnia will be forced to abstain from any U.N. vote for Palestinian statehood — dealing a tough blow to Palestinian hopes of rallying the required nine-vote majority in a U.N. Security Council vote in New York. Palestinian officials have said they already have eight votes, and were counting heavily on Bosnia to give them the ninth.

Honestly, maybe it would not be a bad thing for UNESCO if the US pulled out. Some of UNESCO's greatest achievements came during the time the US and the UK were not members, also a reason the US and the UK rejoined fearing they were losing influence as a result.

Also, UNESCo membership does not necessarily mean UN membership. They're related but still separate organizations. Seeing that UNESCo is primarily a cultural organization it does tend to be less political and has been known to give some recognition to "non-states" including Quebec sometimes for cultural and not necessarily political reasons.
 

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LOL! U.S cut them off for cronyism allegations? How ironic and so very hypocritical that would be! No, if they cut them that certainly won't be the reason for it.
Israel is afraid to death that Palestine will be recognized as a state, because when that happens Israel is then held liable for their war crimes and unending settlements on land not belonging to them.

First of all, the USA should quit the UN, and throw them the hell out of NY, with Canada's support. They are a nasty joke.

Second of all, the recognition of Palestine as a state based on the 1967 borders will mean nothing but war. The West Bank and Gaza were not Palestinian before 1967, and the gains Israel made were paid for in blood.....it belongs to them, and any return must be negotiated. You can forget getting back Jerusalem, or the Golan Heights, or much of the settlement area.

All a unilateral declaration will mean is more war.

Gee Whiz, the Israelis left Gaza years ago, and FORCED their settlers out.....did them a lot of good, didn't it????

Israel has committed no war crimes except surviving........which is only a crime in the mind of the Jew haters.
 

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Israel is afraid to death that Palestine will be recognized as a state, because when that happens Israel is then held liable for their war crimes and unending settlements on land not belonging to them.
You think their membership will actually make that difference?

There are also other ramifications "Palestine" will face if they become a member state.

Ramifications, you and the usual suspects will turn on the UN for, eventually.

UNESCO can say what they want.

I initially read the title as UN and had my WTF moment. Palestine will not get the support it needs to be recognized as a state, and if it does, the U.S. will just veto.
That's a shame. They should be allowed to become a recognized state.
 

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First of all, the USA should quit the UN, and throw them the hell out of NY, with Canada's support. They are a nasty joke.
Does Iraq (twice), Afghanistan, and Libya get back what the UN gave the US?
Where would Israel be without the US veto power?