Kenney vows to cut immigration; dumpthemonarchy jizzes

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Cut immigration applications to fix backlog, Kenney says

Canada needs to accept fewer applications from people wanting to live here, Immigration Minister Jason Kenney says, and he's eyeing the family class for cuts.

Canada is facing too big a backlog and, despite accepting 254,000 applications every year, there are one million people who are waiting to hear whether they can move to Canada, the citizenship and immigration minister said Thursday.

Canada gets about 420,000 applications every year and refuses about 10 per cent of those.

Speaking to the House committee on citizenship and immigration, Kenney said processing applications faster won't fix the backlog problem. And it isn't possible to accept enough people to deal with it either.

The only options, he said, are to vastly increase acceptances, or take fewer applications and keep processing the ones already received.

"Those are the only two possible solutions. It's a math problem," Kenney told reporters after the committee meeting.


Cut family class applications

Kenney pointed to the family class, under which parents and grandparents of Canadian citizens can immigrate. His department received 37,500 applications in 2010 but admits 18,500. Right now, there's a 10-year wait time for processing.

"Merely for us just to tread water, we would have to double the number of people coming into that program … and that wouldn't even reduce the backlog," he said.

Kenney said other countries require a minimal family income, private health insurance or a bond to limit parent and grandparent applications.

Immigration lawyer Richard Kurland said Kenney's right to suggest a cap on the parents and grandparents category. "Unless you solve the intake problem, you're going to have a growing backlog with growing processing times and it's time to bite the bullet," he told reporters after the committee meeting.

Kurland said a 20,000 cap is appropriate, and that the government should break the applicants into categories. "Bring in as priority one the single parents overseas. Priority two is you bring in parents where the families can pony up $75,000 up front to defray medicare costs, either with permanent resident visa on payment or [for $75,000] give that family a 10-year visitor visa to Canada and that way they can be here waiting until their number comes up in the immigration inventory overseas."

Speaking to Rosemary Barton on CBC's Power & Politics, Kenney called the $75,000 payment "a very interesting idea."

"I’ve heard similar ideas about asking people to share in a greater portion of the social and health-care costs. And maybe that’s one practical way of bringing more fairness while limiting the number of new applications so we can avoid the big backlogs. That’s a very valid idea," he said.

The Conservative government and previous Liberal governments averaged about 18,000 parent and grandparent entrants a year, he added.

Kenney says the department is launching consultations on cutting the backlog.

NDP immigration critic Don Davies said reducing parent and grandparent applications is the wrong way to go. "What I object to the most is the minister has come into this so-called study, these meetings, with a preconceived conclusion. The only policy tool that he's looking at is capping applications. Well, that's not the only policy tool available to the minister," Davies said.

He wants Canada to accept another 100,000 immigrants every year, arguing a per capita measurement doesn't make sense because the country has so much space.


Cut immigration applications to fix backlog, Kenney says - Politics - CBC News
 

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It's a math problem alright....Canada gets 420,000 applications a year, only accepts 254,000. So, that means the backlog builds 166,000 a year. And they're focussing on a category that gets less than a quarter of our net deficit for applications to approvals...conservative government is math challenged.
 

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Job creation? When did that become a bad thing?


 

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Excellent title MF, made me LOL for real...

I'm enjoying all the immigrants that are moving here. It makes less space and less jobs for the asshole whites who want everything on a silver platter.
You have silver platters?
 
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Cut immigration applications to fix backlog, Kenney says

Canada needs to accept fewer applications from people wanting to live here, Immigration Minister Jason Kenney says, and he's eyeing the family class for cuts.

Canada is facing too big a backlog and, despite accepting 254,000 applications every year, there are one million people who are waiting to hear whether they can move to Canada, the citizenship and immigration minister said Thursday.

Canada gets about 420,000 applications every year and refuses about 10 per cent of those.

Speaking to the House committee on citizenship and immigration, Kenney said processing applications faster won't fix the backlog problem. And it isn't possible to accept enough people to deal with it either.

The only options, he said, are to vastly increase acceptances, or take fewer applications and keep processing the ones already received.

"Those are the only two possible solutions. It's a math problem," Kenney told reporters after the committee meeting.


Cut family class applications

Kenney pointed to the family class, under which parents and grandparents of Canadian citizens can immigrate. His department received 37,500 applications in 2010 but admits 18,500. Right now, there's a 10-year wait time for processing.

"Merely for us just to tread water, we would have to double the number of people coming into that program … and that wouldn't even reduce the backlog," he said.

Kenney said other countries require a minimal family income, private health insurance or a bond to limit parent and grandparent applications.

Immigration lawyer Richard Kurland said Kenney's right to suggest a cap on the parents and grandparents category. "Unless you solve the intake problem, you're going to have a growing backlog with growing processing times and it's time to bite the bullet," he told reporters after the committee meeting.

Kurland said a 20,000 cap is appropriate, and that the government should break the applicants into categories. "Bring in as priority one the single parents overseas. Priority two is you bring in parents where the families can pony up $75,000 up front to defray medicare costs, either with permanent resident visa on payment or [for $75,000] give that family a 10-year visitor visa to Canada and that way they can be here waiting until their number comes up in the immigration inventory overseas."

Speaking to Rosemary Barton on CBC's Power & Politics, Kenney called the $75,000 payment "a very interesting idea."

"I’ve heard similar ideas about asking people to share in a greater portion of the social and health-care costs. And maybe that’s one practical way of bringing more fairness while limiting the number of new applications so we can avoid the big backlogs. That’s a very valid idea," he said.

The Conservative government and previous Liberal governments averaged about 18,000 parent and grandparent entrants a year, he added.

Kenney says the department is launching consultations on cutting the backlog.

NDP immigration critic Don Davies said reducing parent and grandparent applications is the wrong way to go. "What I object to the most is the minister has come into this so-called study, these meetings, with a preconceived conclusion. The only policy tool that he's looking at is capping applications. Well, that's not the only policy tool available to the minister," Davies said.

He wants Canada to accept another 100,000 immigrants every year, arguing a per capita measurement doesn't make sense because the country has so much space.


Cut immigration applications to fix backlog, Kenney says - Politics - CBC News

Does he not realise that raising language and other requirements for immigrants will naturally have that effect anyway? The focus ought not to be on a quantitative policy, but rather a qualitative one. As long as they meet all the requirements, let them in. I can agree with raising the standards, but no more than that.
 

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But you could make things better by jizzing, as I'm sure you're a good jizzer since your responses add up to a pile of jizzlandfill.
Although I agree with your assessment of the lack of quality in MF's posts. In this case, he nailed you square on the forehead.
 

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People who make personal attacks, just don't understand. They ought to be playing video games. As long as it means the end of PC Canada, where people can really say what is on their minds, putting the tut-tutters out of business like the human rights/wrongs trubunals, then I say go for it. Yahoo, ride'em cowboy!!!!!
 

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Meh. Don't take it too personally.

I was just exemplifying your enthusiasm for cutting immigration.

It doesn't mean its wrong, but you are the CC rep for this sort of thing.
 

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Why should we open our arms to the parents of people who immigrate here? Really. I agree that if the parents are allowed in should have at least a ton of money in the bank and their own private health care. Our health care system is already overburdened and allowing someone in who has not contributed one cent to the system is, IMHO, foolish.
 

mentalfloss

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Why should we open our arms to the parents of people who immigrate here? Really. I agree that if the parents are allowed in should have at least a ton of money in the bank and their own private health care. Our health care system is already overburdened and allowing someone in who has not contributed one cent to the system is, IMHO, foolish.

Grandparents are excellent insurance brokers for their grandchildren.

You'd be surprised how well a little extra help from your peers can help sustain an economy.