We need more plastic? CCRL already refines finer than any other in Nor Am. Everything from paint to pills comes out of that puppy.
You would still have to do a full refining job to extract those components for plastics which would leave you with having to deal with the transport of the retail-style fuels.
No no.. We can reasonably export plastics and derive more value from that resource than pumping oil to another country.
Btw, I already know what the follow up to this will be from cap'n.
Okay, not what I expected, but to this point - the profit would still outweigh the costs of manufacturing.
But you still didn't hit on the real weak point of this idea.. something that the environmentalists seem to be overlooking. That is the industrial development of plastics and probable overproduction at the whim of the profiteering plastics industry.
The impetus in the location of the refineries has much to do with placing them as close to the markets as possible. Having a very large volume of raw materials to deal with means that the most suitable locations are near large metropolitan areas or international ports.
BTW Upgraders are sort of "green". They use coke from the heavy oil upgrading process to run the refineries thus reducing nat gas consumption.
Ya it's a byproduct and suncor uses it to fill in the tailings ponds as they drain the mft out of them now useing poly flocculents.
I spent a year with TRO(tailings reductions operations)up there and it wont be long before all their ponds are reclaimed,I would guesstimate 5 years tops.
I used to get a headache,burning eyes and throat every time I got near one of those ponds,thats nasty stuff in there.
Take that chart and make it Canada only and it's a complete different picture.
They backfill with coke or coke ash?
Coke as they have so much of it.That will get rid of their spontaneous combustion problem they have with it.
The fly ash gets hauled to a different place and is very nasty,they use contractors to haul it away as their employees arent allowed to work more then a few hours a day in it.They have a small mountain of coke at suncor that you can see from the highway next to pond 6.
Upgrading crude that has an API >20 is far different from bitumen.
No doubt.. It's a pretty crazy world up there.
Ever done any work in the oil fields North of Edson. I forget the general name of the area, but it's just South of Kaybob. Silver Summit and Kennedy Road are the only references I can think of.
It's an old forestry lease with lots of heavy equipment traffic on a dirt road that kicks up dust that is like exploding a container of talcum powder in a room... Same scenario, the oil Co's have traffic enforcement in the area - get caught and you get run-off the site for a month or 3.
Well, if for some strange reason you find yourself in Edson country and have a few hours to kill, find the 7-11 in town (the only 1 I think) and head North on that road for about 30-40 minutes.... The blacktop ends and the dirt road starts and you gaining lots of elevation (caution: they gravel that road with pea-gravel the size of softballs - it makes for some nasty treatment on the suspension, let alone having your go-cup end up all over your cab).
Regardless, I used to drive all of the backwoods dirt roads in South and Central AB/BC and this area is one of the prettiest examples of country that Western Canada has to offer, especially when you get off the main and onto some of the wagon trails.
You'd never know it, but there are around 300+ oil/gas facilities in that small little area.