Privatizing Aboriginal Reserves


CDNBear
#271
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

It's called sarcasm. I'm not surprised it went over your head. I'm also not surprised you felt the need to drag stuff here from other threads. You do that quite often when you are getting PWNED.

Who knew you shared something in common with JLM.

Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

I be thinking Clunk and Durkey attend the same pee parties. One just uses a bit more vaseline

lol..
 
JLM
#272
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post



It's called sarcasm. I'm not surprised it went over your head. I'm also not surprised you felt the need to drag stuff here from other threads. You do that quite often when you are getting PWNED.

I remember what was said, I don't necessary remember where it was said, but I get your point, when you are at point "A" you say one thing and when you are at point "B" you say something altogether different. So now it's "sarcasm", so in fact you were actually lying!
 
Cannuck
#273
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I remember what was said, I don't necessary remember where it was said, but I get your point, when you are at point "A" you say one thing and when you are at point "B" you say something altogether different. So now it's "sarcasm", so in fact you were actually lying!

If you consider sarcasm lying then yes, I was lying. The fact remains, the sarcasm went right over your head....not surprisingly.
 
CDNBear
#274
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

I was lying.

We know. Admitting it, is the first step in healing.

Keep working on it. One day you might be able to be honest all the time.
 
DaSleeper
#275
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

I remember what was said, I don't necessary remember where it was said, but I get your point, when you are at point "A" you say one thing and when you are at point "B" you say something altogether different. So now it's "sarcasm", so in fact you were actually lying!

The guy must have been good at dodge ball
 
CDNBear
#276
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

The guy must have been good at dodge ball

Good? I'd if his actions here are any indication, he was an expert.
 
JLM
#277
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Yes, I'm sure the small sample of people you worked with are a clear representation of a whole generation. Maybe you want to throw in a comment about aboriginals and black people to give your comment more of a JLM flavour.

Oh, I guess the samples of people you've worked with in your extensive working time period is much larger than mine! Maybe you want to throw in more comments about seniors to give more of that Bob, weave and twist flavour!

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Good? I'd if his actions here are any indication, he was an expert.

Maybe but maybe not fast enough to prevent his head getting hit a few times!
 
CDNBear
+1
#278
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Maybe but maybe not fast enough to prevent his head getting hit a few times!

Nah, just poor parenting.
 
Cannuck
#279
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Oh, I guess the samples of people you've worked with in your extensive working time period is much larger than mine!

The people I have worked with have nothing to do with anything. That's how you judge a generation, not how I judge a generation.
 
CDNBear
+1
#280
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

That's how you judge a generation, not how I judge a generation.

Maybe true, but the former is how you judge a whole other group of people.

It's a shame your racism prevents you from affording the same respect to all people.
 
Cannuck
#281
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Maybe true

No maybe about it

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

It's a shame your racism prevents you from affording the same respect to all people.

Coming from you, that is hilarious. I'm one of the few to believe that all Canadians should be equal before the law and you seem to have such a problem with that. It's quite clear who the racists are here. I mean, I'm not the one arguing for inequality.
 
CDNBear
#282
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Coming from you, that is hilarious.

I'm sure you think so.

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I'm one of the few to believe that all Canadians should be equal before the law and you seem to have such a problem with that.

It's already been established that you don't actually believe that, in other threads.

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It's quite clear who the racists are here.

I agree, you should work on that.

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I mean, I'm not the one arguing for inequality.

But you don't believe in equal application of the law, ie Native v non native.

And I've already proven there is no inequality in hunting. So what are you talking about now?

Anyways, I might check in later, but right now, I'm off to exercise my right to be taxed at the local Nofrills.
 
DaSleeper
#283
Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

This guy just ain't playing with a full deck. Why would anyone brag about spending time on the golf course while he is supposed to be at work, or else it's one of his perks that he likes to throw in other people's faces. Either way, not too ethical!

JLM: Out your way....can seniors fish without a licence????
In Ontario Children under 16 and seniors can, but have to follow all regulations.
That may be why Cannot hates seniors, since he doesn't like Natives for that reason even though natives need a license unless they are on a reserve or certain areas covered by treaty.
 
JLM
+1
#284
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

No maybe about it



Canadians should be equal before the law and you seem to have such a problem with that. It's quite clear who the racists are here. I mean, I'm not the one arguing for inequality.

Is discriminating against race any worse than discriminating against age? Funny statement coming from a guy who said " They are entitled to their entitlements. They are the most selfish generation in Canadian history. Let's be thankful that the generation behind them has not been so selfish and has managed to halt the slide." ..................................Oops, sorry that statement was made on a different thread, so it has no validity here.

Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

JLM: Out your way....can seniors fish without a licence????
In Ontario Children under 16 and seniors can, but have to follow all regulations.
That may be why Cannot hates seniors, since he doesn't like Natives for that reason even though natives need a license unless they are on a reserve or certain areas covered by treaty.

I haven't fished for a few years, but my brother in law who is 65 got his last fishing license for $1 I'm pretty sure.
 
Cannuck
#285
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

It's already been established that you don't actually believe that, in other threads.

No, it hasn't.

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

And I've already proven there is no inequality in hunting.

No you haven't

Quote: Originally Posted by JLMView Post

Is discriminating against race any worse than discriminating against age? Funny statement coming from a guy who said " They are entitled to their entitlements. They are the most selfish generation in Canadian history. Let's be thankful that the generation behind them has not been so selfish and has managed to halt the slide." ..................................Oops, sorry that statement was made on a different thread, so it has no validity here.

It's not discriminatory if it is backed up with statistics. If you had statistics to back up your claim that the average aboriginal hunter was more responsible than the average white hunter, it wouldn't be racist but a statistical fact. I'm not sure why I'm bothering to explain this to you. You seem incapable of wrapping your head around it.
 
gerryh
#286
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

I'm one of the few to believe that all Canadians should be equal before the law and you seem to have such a problem with that. It's quite clear who the racists are here. I mean, I'm not the one arguing for inequality.



What you argue for, as does dumpy, is the throwing out or reneging of Canada's Treaty and legal obligations towards First Nations and Metis. You can try and throw the "equality for all" blanket over it all you want. There are some here that can see right through your dog and pony show.
 
Cannuck
#287
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

What you argue for, as does dumpy, is the throwing out or reneging of Canada's Treaty and legal obligations towards First Nations and Metis.


As I have said umpteen times before, I have no problem honoring our treaties. You are wrong. It is that simple.
 
gerryh
#288
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

As I have said umpteen times before, I have no problem honoring our treaties. You are wrong. It is that simple.


Bullshyte. You argue against the existing hunting and fishing rights afforded First Nations that are enshrined in Treaties.
 
Cannuck
#289
Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Bullshyte. You argue against the existing hunting and fishing rights afforded First Nations that are enshrined in Treaties.

You are mistaken
 
CDNBear
+1
#290
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

No, it hasn't. No you haven't

Wrong on both counts. It isn't the first time you've been wrong.

Quote: Originally Posted by gerryhView Post

Bullshyte. You argue against the existing hunting and fishing rights afforded First Nations that are enshrined in Treaties.

Actually he's arguing about it being a right. He tried insinuating that no other Canadian has the same right. When it was established, that despite the fact that the word right appears in the term hunting rights. It is in no way any greater a right than is equally available to all Canadians.

Which is why he ignored my comment about negotiated/collective bargaining by unions. Which of course he has defended, and clearly supports, as well as accepts the perks there of, by right of membership. Since you and I can not simply go to a union and demand they offer us the same benefits.

Since he can't actually argue the issue he brought forth, as he thought he could, he will now deny, dodge, dismiss and deflect.
 
Cannuck
#291
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Actually he's arguing about ....

You are mistaken as well
 
CDNBear
+1
#292
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

As I have said umpteen times before, I have no problem honoring our treaties.

Then stop whining.

Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

You are mistaken as well

If I am, it's the result of your inability to be honest and consistent.

At least you didn't try and deny your hypocrisy, re; union contracts v Treaties.
 
Cannuck
#293
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Then stop whining.

Whining? You're the special interest shill. Whining is your thing.

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

If I am, it's the result of your inability to be honest and consistent.

No, it's about you're complete and utter inability to set aside your agenda for 5 minutes and have an honest discussion. An honest discussion is what you fear most. It's a common theme among special interest hacks.
 
gerryh
+1
#294
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Whining? You're the special interest shill. Whining is your thing.



No, it's about you're complete and utter inability to set aside your agenda for 5 minutes and have an honest discussion. An honest discussion is what you fear most. It's a common theme among special interest hacks.


 
CDNBear
+1
#295
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Whining?

Yes whining. Shall we go through all your crying about inequality and rights? Well, as it pertains to First nations, since when it comes to unions your opinion isn't logically consistent.

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No, it's about you're complete and utter inability to set aside your agenda for 5 minutes and have an honest discussion.

What agenda is that?

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An honest discussion is what you fear most. It's a common theme among special interest hacks.

I'm not the one that employs every manner of fallacy in these exchanges, that's your shtick.

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Since he can't actually argue the issue he brought forth, as he thought he could, he will now deny, dodge, dismiss and deflect.

I really wish I could predict the lotto numbers as easily.
 
Cannuck
#296
Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

Yes whining. Shall we go through all your crying about inequality and rights?

Although discouraging, it's really no surprise that equality and rights are something you have a problem with.

Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

I'm not the one that employs every manner of fallacy in these exchanges, that's your shtick.

The evidence suggests otherwise.

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Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck

I was lying.
We know. Admitting it, is the first step in healing.

Keep working on it. One day you might be able to be honest all the time.

 
CDNBear
#297
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Although discouraging, it's really no surprise that equality and rights are something you have a problem with.

Why would you be discouraged that I have a problem with your hypocritical two tiered application of equality and rights?

Oh ya, I saw it and pointed it out.

News flash, you seem to be the only one that thinks it's a big secret.

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The evidence suggests otherwise.

Your inability to be honest is already well established.

Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

Quote: Originally Posted by Cannuck

I was lying.
We know. Admitting it, is the first step in healing.

Keep working on it. One day you might be able to be honest all the time.

I've never said I was above using your own tactics against you. I wouldn't feel the need to do so, if you were capable of an honest discussion.
 
L Gilbert
#298
Last I heard, it was any Canadian's right to get game anytime under justifiable conditions. I don't see a big issue here.
 
JLM
#299
Quote: Originally Posted by CannuckView Post

No, it hasn't.



No you haven't



It's not discriminatory if it is backed up with statistics. If you had statistics to back up your claim that the average aboriginal hunter was more responsible than the average white hunter, it wouldn't be racist but a statistical fact. I'm not sure why I'm bothering to explain this to you. You seem incapable of wrapping your head around it.

You and your god damned statistics, should be shoved where the sun don't shine! You had statistics to prove seniors were the worst drivers, well I'll tell you something Mr. I have statistics to say they are the safest drivers- my insurance bill which dropped by over $200 upon attaining age 65! They even put their money where their mouth is on those statistics!

Arguing with Cannuck is highly futile, when he is proven wrong it all of a sudden changes to "sarcasm"- just no integrity whatsoever!
 
skookumchuck
+2
#300
I am a newcomer to this site and i must say that i am quite perplexed at the lack of moderation regarding name calling. How can a discussion ever bring any positive thinking or knowledge under these conditions? It appears to have strayed off topic as well but i will proceed, being that it appears to be accepted.

Having spent time to read most of this thread i find some puzzling statements made. One being that Natives do not have "rights" regarding subsistence hunting. Perhaps i have misunderstood this question for a great many years as my understanding is that those rights appear to exist regarding status Indians. Are "rights" a misnomer?
Although apparently not inalienable, these "rights" are being exercised in this country. Here i quote.......

"No Aboriginal right, even though constitutionally protected, is absolute in Canadian law. Fishing rights, for example, are not exclusive in the sense that only indigenous peoples can exercise them and they are not immune to regulation by other governments. Aboriginal title, on the other hand, may give rise to an exclusive right to use and occupy lands, but that right may be interfered with for other societal purposes such as economic development or power generation. Infringement of aboriginal rights or title must be justified by non-Aboriginal governments on the basis of a legitimate government purpose and recognition of the constitutional protection of the rights being affected. There may also be a requirement for prior consultation with the Aboriginal peoples concerned and compensation in some circumstances.'
From.........
Aboriginal Rights - The Canadian Encyclopedia (external - login to view)

I have many times heard, as i am sure many others have, government sources state that as a non Native, i do not have any rights regarding fishing or hunting, only a privilege subject to their discretion. I have not heard the word "privilege" applied to Natives, in fact i would assume a crap storm if that happened.

Numerous times over the years i have personally witnessed the taking of wildlife by status Indians at all times of the year while Fish and Wildlife officers observed. If that is, as stated by some, not a right, then semantics aside, what the hell is it?
I believe the original intent was to ensure that Native folks would not go hungry in remote or wilderness areas. People who did not have the same standard of living or conveniences of their city counterparts. Few, compared to years ago, now actually need that "right", or more properly discretion, but it should not be extinguished, rather be more transparent and i blame government for that lack.

My position and reason for same reflects much of what Cannuck has stated. I have no problem with those who take advantage of the ability to provide themselves and family with fish and game where and when it is necessary as well as it not affect at risk species. IMO there should be no ethnicity involved.
Differing and accepted discretion regarding natural resources for different ethnic groups does not belong in our country.
Regardless of ethnicity, all humans basically retain the tendency to wish to achieve top dog status. Coping with that forever issue is what democratic principles are based on, lest we forget.
 

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