Nature Playing Havoc on the Planet

Ocean Breeze

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Powerful Pacific quake triggers tsunami warning - World news - Asia-Pacific - msnbc.com

Another Quake. another region of nature's "rage" and destruction.

When one reviews all the natural "events" & destruction that has taken place in the recent years........makes you wonder why man still causes man made horrors with his WARS.

Time for the humanoid , that supposedly has thinking powers, to realize his impact on other people and the planet and make some serious behavioral changes. Including going into rehab for its (US) addiction to WARS an K ILLING.


Heart felt thoughts going to the most recent victims of the current quake.
 

DurkaDurka

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The earthquake is certainly tragic and I hope it doesn't cause anyone harm but I really fail to see why you had to take a jab at the US in this thread.
 
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Ocean Breeze

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The earthquake is certainly tragic and I hope it doesn't cause anyone harm but I really fail to see why you had to take a jab at the US in this thread.

You miss the point. There have been so many natural "event's In recent years / months........that there is enough destruction taking place that needs reconstruction ,.........that it makes you wonder why MAN has to continue being destructive via his selfish wars. ( man made destruction). to add to the overall horrors. And it is a FACT that the US is the KEY WAR loving nation on the planet....by virtue of how many it has had in its short history and how many that are going on simultaneously at the moment.

What we CAN CHANGE......is our war behavior and focus on making sure we are equipped to deal with the natural events that are proving very deadly. & costly. AND NOT ADD to the death and cost with ELECTIVE wars of choice , which is probably the biggest and most costly ... on so many levels.

What we CANNOT change or even predict is what Natures next move will be. What we do know and CAN predict is that there will be more. The other point is that the humanoid needs to completely change its priorities. And start seeing things as the whole picture , and not just on per event basis.

More funds are needed to get better science as to the reasons these major weather extremes and other natural events are taking place with increased frequency.
 

DurkaDurka

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You miss the point. There have been so many natural "event's In recent years / months........that there is enough destruction taking place that needs reconstruction ,.........that it makes you wonder why MAN has to continue being destructive via his selfish wars. ( man made destruction). to add to the overall horrors. And it is a FACT that the US is the KEY WAR loving nation on the planet....by virtue of how many it has had in its short history and how many that are going on simultaneously at the moment.

What we CAN CHANGE......is our war behavior and focus on making sure we are equipped to deal with the natural events that are proving very deadly. & costly.

What we CANNOT change or even predict is what Natures next move will be. What we do know and CAN predict is that there will be more. The other point is that the humanoid needs to completely change its priorities. And start seeing things as the whole picture , and not just on per event basis.

If that was your point, you could use humans in general, the US does not have a monopoly on wars or violence. All sorts of violence happens across the globe, political bias tends to cause one to ignore violence where they see fit though.

Man has always been destructive and I doubt that's going to change anytime soon.
 

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If that was your point, you could use humans in general, the US does not have a monopoly on wars or violence. All sorts of violence happens across the globe, political bias tends to cause one to ignore violence where they see fit though.

Man has always been destructive and I doubt that's going to change anytime soon.

Valid arguement. But it is massive military invasions that cause destruction on the scale that is comparable to natures most "violent' events. And yes, mankind has shown to be learning challenged........and does not learn from his mistakes or previous counter productive aggressions. In fact one could go so far as to say that there is an insanity to his behavior ........as he expects different results from repeating the same behavior over and over.

We are also talking about how natures events have increased in frequency , duration and intensity in the last few years . We are also talking of the war destruction of the past few years. Scientists are not only noticing the trends but are quite alarmed by them. And rightly so. Not alarmed as in panic ( counterproductive) but as in there are red flags errupting from what they are observing. Mind you, even your average citizen is becoming more aware of the changes .....

anything further back........is a historical footnote ..

Maybe war is nature's way of keeping populations to sustainable limits


as in nature's checks and balances?? Can't prove it, but can't rule it out either.
 

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Who has ever made a claim that humans are tame animals?

Valid point...........but one keeps hoping that some semblance of civlized conduct will replace the barbarism , humans are so prone to.

......Maybe one day, the two legged inhabitant of the planet will start to actually take care of the planetary home he tends to abuse with such carelessness. Maybe too, he will learn to financially manage his funds and make sure there is a reserve for what nature likes to test the planet with.

He might also remind himself that Natural events are a no choice , while wars, killings, and other man determined destructiveness are a CHOICE. So it comes down to the choices mankind makes in regards to his planetary home.
 

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Valid point...........but one keeps hoping that some semblance of civlized conduct will replace the barbarism , humans are so prone to.

......Maybe one day, the two legged inhabitant of the planet will start to actually take care of the planetary home he tends to abuse with such carelessness. Maybe too, he will learn to financially manage his funds and make sure there is a reserve for what nature likes to test the planet with.

He might also remind himself that Natural events are a no choice , while wars, killings, and other man determined destructiveness are a CHOICE. So it comes down to the choices mankind makes in regards to his planetary home.

Humanity has indeed made great strides in evolving from what we used to be like 1000 years ago, but we're not a perfect species and you can not expect us to magically fix all of our faults over night just because we can talk and walk upright. While what you say sounds wonderful and Utopian, it still takes time to rid ourselves of old habits, especially the ones that have been with us since written history (and even long before that)

Based on your reasoning, as soon as our children can figure out how to walk upright on their own two legs, we should expect them to do everything, slap a lunch box in their hands and send them off to the construction site to build a sky scraper, and do it perfectly.

We as a species are still growing, still learning and still trying to evolve from our long-term fears and ignorance over a number of things..... and yes indeed, the planet & nature will not wait for us to figure it out..... but we also can't just snap sh*t and correct our ways so easily.

Natural disasters and the like have been happening since the planet was formed..... and every so often these natural disasters start happening more often..... then they die down and go back to normal. This is a long term cycle of the planet.

Just in the past 100 years we have learned to improve our relations with people who have other religions, other races, other genders, other sexual preferences...... woman got the right to vote and work jobs men normally held...... gays are not only gaining more acceptence in society, but also the right to marry and have kids of their own...... and on and on.

Yes, none of the above are perfect and we still have a long way to go, but compare it all to say 200 or more years before, with witch burnings, slavery and the sort..... it's a hell of a lot better then it was.

We will eventually get to what you speak of..... but it will take time.

Whether we survive long enough to get to that point is the real question and honestly, we don't have a lot of control over that outcome.
 

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interesting post. Thx.

About whether we survive..... IF we don't survive due to natural activities gone extreme , or due to an asteroid crashing into the planet that is one thing.......and one has to accept that some of these major issues are plain crap shoot. ( as is much of life)

IF we self destruct because of our own stupidity , bombs, and other so called hi tech weaponry (and it wouldn't take many....) followed by the horrors that follow with each bomb dropped ..........then we truly have learned nothing about the evils of human made death and destruction. AND we teach nothing of value to the coming generations ........

Gererally speaking ......it would seem wise to make more funds available in reserve ( like take some megabucks from the stockpile of money being allotted to the multiple ELECTIVE war efforts ) to deal with the after effects of these events to help those victimized by them. The need for more and more scientific research is a GIVEN. So take some of the funds allotted to making guns and bombs and use them for this.

No........the word Perfect and human have no connection in reality;. But that is also the wonderful challenge of being human... and that we CAN make choices , and we CAN make the changes so critically necessary. (including dealing with our greed, selfishness, and other character flaws that stand in the way of doing what is right. Caring for the planet and being ready to help victims of natures events on a moments notice. We should have teams in every country that are ready to move the minute there is the slightest indication of natures "intervention"....... That would be money better spent than on that over used "national security". excuse. A few more major natural events and things like national security or terrorism will not even be relavent.

we MUST keep things in perspective and balance. Ok.....that is my opine.
 

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When has nature not played havoc with the pathetic insects known as homo sapiens?

LOL...........you do have a way with words. ;-) But of course you are right. Hopefully we insects can explain these events better now with more science and prepare for them better........than in years of yore or pre-biblical times.;-)
 

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Powerful Pacific quake triggers tsunami warning - World news - Asia-Pacific - msnbc.com

Another Quake. another region of nature's "rage" and destruction.

When one reviews all the natural "events" & destruction that has taken place in the recent years........makes you wonder why man still causes man made horrors with his WARS.

Time for the humanoid , that supposedly has thinking powers, to realize his impact on other people and the planet and make some serious behavioral changes. Including going into rehab for its (US) addiction to WARS an K ILLING.


Heart felt thoughts going to the most recent victims of the current quake.

Gee Whiz, would you be talking about the wars like the one that defeated the Nazis?

Or the one that saved South Korea????? (if you doubt it was saved, take a look at North Korea......)

Or the Cold one.....that kept the USSR at bay???

Or the one that liberated Kuwait?

Or the one that liberated Iraq????

Or the one that is UN approved, that was the reaction to the murder of 3000 people????

And remember, in 5 out of 6 of the above, Canadians fought shoulder to shoulder with our friends and allies to the south.........and we were involved in the sixth...

So what the hell are you talking about????

AND what the heck does US foreign policy have to do with earthquakes????
 
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Gee Whiz, would you be talking about the wars like the one that defeated the Nazis?

Or the one that saved South Korea????? (if you doubt it was saved, take a look at North Korea......)

Or the Cold one.....that kept the USSR at bay???

Or the one that liberated Kuwait?

Or the one that liberated Iraq????

Or the one that is UN approved, that was the reaction to the murder of 3000 people????

And remember, in 5 out of 6 of the above, Canadians fought shoulder to shoulder with our friends and allies to the south.........and we were involved in the sixth...

So what the hell are you talking about????

Do you expect a rational answer?

AND what the heck does US foreign policy have to do with earthquakes????

Maybe she believes in the Secret Earthquake Machine we have.
 

YukonJack

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So, it is obvious that if we all quit smoking (nicotine, only, not grass) there will be mo more earthquakes.

If nobody will drive an SUV, there will be no more tsunamis.

If everybody stopped eating meat, there will never be another volcanic eruption.

If everyone laid down and let the Sharia Law be the law of the land, there will never be another tornado.

If people only dedicated more of their money to phonies who pretend to know about science, there would never be another flood or snow storm.

Hurricanes would be totally eliminated if only people stopped using air conditioning in Summer and be courageous enough not to heat their homes in Winter.

At least, those are the insane implications of post #5.

It forgot the last line of liberal defense: BLAME BUSH!!!!
 

petros

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Do you expect a rational answer?



Maybe she believes in the Secret Earthquake Machine we have.
Yo can make an eartquake at home by machine. Put a nice wet river rock into you microwave crank it up for 30 min on HI and see what happens. Ask your mom if it is okay first though.