Genius
Posts: 768 
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
April 4th, 2008, 07:20 PM
This book sucks, it's full of glaring inaccuracies goes something like it's 2036 and the russians(who else) wants Alberta's oilsands, so they just sort of saunter over the pole and invade Alberta occupying Calgary, Red Deer, Edmonton and Grand Prairie It is so implausible and the geography is so far off point that it's obvious Mr. Clancy did his research on the net without bothering to visit, of course the Americans rescue us because we are utterly hapless and cannot defend ourselves - no mention of the military bases here, no mention of cold lake airbase, nor suffield weapons range- there is a particularly idiotic tangent to this novel about a nuke in both edmonton and calgary that they will set off and contaminate the oilsands making it unusable (it's buried under 30 ft of overburden 350 miles from edmonton) gotta be one helluva nuke. This is the last novel I buy from this nitwit.
This book sucks, it's full of glaring inaccuracies goes something like it's 2036 and the russians(who else) wants Alberta's oilsands, so they just sort of saunter over the pole and invade Alberta occupying Calgary, Red Deer, Edmonton and Grand Prairie It is so implausible and the geography is so far off point that it's obvious Mr. Clancy did his research on the net without bothering to visit, of course the Americans rescue us because we are utterly hapless and cannot defend ourselves - no mention of the military bases here, no mention of cold lake airbase, nor suffield weapons range- there is a particularly idiotic tangent to this novel about a nuke in both edmonton and calgary that they will set off and contaminate the oilsands making it unusable (it's buried under 30 ft of overburden 350 miles from edmonton) gotta be one helluva nuke. This is the last novel I buy from this nitwit.
April 5th, 2008, 05:50 AM
He's a Navy man through and through. The darling of the US Navy, with access and assistance from almost every level of that much maligned branch.
His books are forever and a day about the US and it's superiority. Ever read SSN, by Clancy and Greenberg?
Pure tripe, but none the less entertaining.
If you don't like Clancy novels, you have to hate Hollywood. They use the same model.
Quoting Lester
I think that's why you find his books in the 'fiction' section.
This book sucks, it's full of glaring inaccuracies goes something like it's 2036 and the russians(who else) wants Alberta's oilsands, so they just sort of saunter over the pole and invade Alberta occupying Calgary, Red Deer, Edmonton and Grand Prairie It is so implausible and the geography is so far off point that it's obvious Mr. Clancy did his research on the net without bothering to visit, of course the Americans rescue us because we are utterly hapless and cannot defend ourselves - no mention of the military bases here, no mention of cold lake airbase, nor suffield weapons range- there is a particularly idiotic tangent to this novel about a nuke in both edmonton and calgary that they will set off and contaminate the oilsands making it unusable (it's buried under 30 ft of overburden 350 miles from edmonton) gotta be one helluva nuke. This is the last novel I buy from this nitwit.
Quoting #juan
Oh hell, ya think?
Have to agree Lester though I haven't read this book. Clancy is very much a single plot writer who has trouble seeing the bigger picture. I will read this book and report back.
He's a Navy man through and through. The darling of the US Navy, with access and assistance from almost every level of that much maligned branch.
His books are forever and a day about the US and it's superiority. Ever read SSN, by Clancy and Greenberg?
Pure tripe, but none the less entertaining.
If you don't like Clancy novels, you have to hate Hollywood. They use the same model.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,367
Location: Great Satan
Location: Great Satan
April 5th, 2008, 05:50 AM
Quoting Lester
So why don't you write him about it? Or are you waiting for him to come on here to respond?
This book sucks, it's full of glaring inaccuracies goes something like it's 2036 and the russians(who else) wants Alberta's oilsands, so they just sort of saunter over the pole and invade Alberta occupying Calgary, Red Deer, Edmonton and Grand Prairie It is so implausible and the geography is so far off point that it's obvious Mr. Clancy did his research on the net without bothering to visit, of course the Americans rescue us because we are utterly hapless and cannot defend ourselves - no mention of the military bases here, no mention of cold lake airbase, nor suffield weapons range- there is a particularly idiotic tangent to this novel about a nuke in both edmonton and calgary that they will set off and contaminate the oilsands making it unusable (it's buried under 30 ft of overburden 350 miles from edmonton) gotta be one helluva nuke. This is the last novel I buy from this nitwit.
Chief Mogrifier
Posts: 8,885
April 5th, 2008, 09:10 AM
Tom Clancy's first six or eight books were very good, with interesting characters and good plots. After the "Op-Center" books, which were a joke, I thought his novels went down hill but I don't think Clancy is too worried about what I read since I get my books mostly at the library.
Tom Clancy's first six or eight books were very good, with interesting characters and good plots. After the "Op-Center" books, which were a joke, I thought his novels went down hill but I don't think Clancy is too worried about what I read since I get my books mostly at the library.
Genius
Posts: 768
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
April 5th, 2008, 04:15 PM
Quoting thomaska
It's a poor literary peice and it's just a comment so people won't waste money on a inadequeatly researched peice of drivel. And by the way I did drop him an email telling him so, not that he would give a ****.
So why don't you write him about it? Or are you waiting for him to come on here to respond?
Genius
Posts: 768
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
April 5th, 2008, 04:25 PM
Quoting CDNBear
Hey Bear, I read hundreds of book a year - all fiction and a good writer is one who when constructing a plot will go to great lengths to fill in the glaring holes so people like me don't nitpick. of course I'm from Alberta ,so Maybe only an Albertan would catch these errors.
I think that's why you find his books in the 'fiction' section.
Oh hell, ya think?
He's a Navy man through and through. The darling of the US Navy, with access and assistance from almost every level of that much maligned branch.
His books are forever and a day about the US and it's superiority. Ever read SSN, by Clancy and Greenberg?
Pure tripe, but none the less entertaining.
If you don't like Clancy novels, you have to hate Hollywood. They use the same model.
Oh hell, ya think?
He's a Navy man through and through. The darling of the US Navy, with access and assistance from almost every level of that much maligned branch.
His books are forever and a day about the US and it's superiority. Ever read SSN, by Clancy and Greenberg?
Pure tripe, but none the less entertaining.
If you don't like Clancy novels, you have to hate Hollywood. They use the same model.
Newbie
Posts: 34
April 5th, 2008, 11:46 PM
Have you read any (or all?) of "Jack Higgins"(a.k.a. Harry Patterson) novels?
For me personally he has yet to dissappoint me as I'm hooked by the 3rd page and his literary suspense is intense as he builds to his semi climaxes.
With more then 50 books in print, I've read nine so far in no particular order and for my taste , he hasn't lost his touch!
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I agree that if a writer can not keep their plot intriguing and quickly paced, I usually "fall asleep." Clancy has made a name for himself already just from his first book alone. As a teenager, I thought the first novel by Robin Cook was fantastic. It was even made into a movie. He still writes novels but like many authors who write award winning books at first, he disappoints me now with anything he writes.
Hey Bear, I read hundreds of book a year - all fiction and a good writer is one who when constructing a plot will go to great lengths to fill in the glaring holes so people like me don't nitpick. of course I'm from Alberta ,so Maybe only an Albertan would catch these errors.
Have you read any (or all?) of "Jack Higgins"(a.k.a. Harry Patterson) novels?
For me personally he has yet to dissappoint me as I'm hooked by the 3rd page and his literary suspense is intense as he builds to his semi climaxes.
With more then 50 books in print, I've read nine so far in no particular order and for my taste , he hasn't lost his touch!
April 6th, 2008, 05:42 AM
So I understand your complaint.
I think he's gotten lazy.
Quoting Lester
Very true...which is why I pick apart movies with regards to tactics, weapons, explosions, et al.
Hey Bear, I read hundreds of book a year - all fiction and a good writer is one who when constructing a plot will go to great lengths to fill in the glaring holes so people like me don't nitpick. of course I'm from Alberta ,so Maybe only an Albertan would catch these errors.
So I understand your complaint.
I think he's gotten lazy.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,041
Location: Ontario
Location: Ontario
April 6th, 2008, 06:57 AM
Not only lazy, but greedy. He is a commodity, thousands make their living on his back. He is no longer a writer. If you pick his books apart he is merely a format follower. Much like those that write Harliquin Romance novels. It's just a different target audience.
Writer wh***. (oops can't say that word.....hm...... that surprised me)
Anyway, he sold out as most eventually do that write pop fiction.
Not only lazy, but greedy. He is a commodity, thousands make their living on his back. He is no longer a writer. If you pick his books apart he is merely a format follower. Much like those that write Harliquin Romance novels. It's just a different target audience.
Writer wh***. (oops can't say that word.....hm...... that surprised me)
Anyway, he sold out as most eventually do that write pop fiction.
Chief Mogrifier
Posts: 8,885
April 6th, 2008, 11:40 AM
Quoting Night Safari
I'm surprised that more of Jack Higgins work hasn't hit the big screen. I think that Higgins character, Sean Dillon, might be as big a hero as James Bond. I've read most of Jack Higgins books and I assumed everyone did.
Have you read any (or all?) of "Jack Higgins"(a.k.a. Harry Patterson) novels?
For me personally he has yet to dissappoint me as I'm hooked by the 3rd page and his literary suspense is intense as he builds to his semi climaxes.
With more then 50 books in print, I've read nine so far in no particular order and for my taste , he hasn't lost his touch!
For me personally he has yet to dissappoint me as I'm hooked by the 3rd page and his literary suspense is intense as he builds to his semi climaxes.
With more then 50 books in print, I've read nine so far in no particular order and for my taste , he hasn't lost his touch!
Genius
Posts: 768
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
Location: Ardrossan, Alberta
April 6th, 2008, 02:46 PM
I like Michael Crichton, Awesome writer he gives you a 10 page bibliography at the end of his books- His research is always from reputable sources / Library of congress/ scientific journals/Scientists very entertaining. Harry TurtleDove writes alternate history ( as in what if aliens invaded earth in the middle of ww2) stuff like that. Havn't read Jack Higgins- a little out of my Genre, but I'll make a point to do so.
I like Michael Crichton, Awesome writer he gives you a 10 page bibliography at the end of his books- His research is always from reputable sources / Library of congress/ scientific journals/Scientists very entertaining. Harry TurtleDove writes alternate history ( as in what if aliens invaded earth in the middle of ww2) stuff like that. Havn't read Jack Higgins- a little out of my Genre, but I'll make a point to do so.
