mcdonalds antics

mcdonalds antics

AnnaG

#31

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

That's why I avoid salmon sashimi or sushi...they're notorious for having little critters in the flesh. Some apparently aren't prone to having parasites though...tuna and red snapper are two that come to mind, and quite popular for raw consumption in Japan.

Easy way to get rid of worms and bugs is to marinate the stuff with something acidic like lemon juice in water.
Sushi is a dish that may contain either cooked fish or uncooked fish or both. Sashimi is just uncooked fish.

countryboy

#32

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

Easy way to get rid of worms and bugs is to marinate the stuff with something acidic like lemon juice in water.
Sushi is a dish that may contain either cooked fish or uncooked fish or both. Sashimi is just uncooked fish.

Yep, and sushi can be vegetarian too! Don't have to worry about the worms there, usually. One of my favorites is "natto sushi"...it's a simple one...sticky, slimy, smelly fermented soybeans surrounded by a sheet of "nori" (seaweed). Pretty strong tasting, but with a couple of "spollops" of karashi (hot mustard), it's a pretty bracing experience.

Hey AnnaG...you're a bit of a foodie, I know. Here's one for you...back in '95, I was invited to dinner at a special and famous chicken restaurant down in southern Japan. The restaurant has their own chicken farm attached. Imagine my surprise when the first course arrived - chicken sashimi! Oh boy, it was a bit of a challenge to get the first piece down, but it got easier as the drinks flowed. Turned out to be a pretty good meal, although raw chicken was involved in at least 3 of the 7 courses. (Memory is a bit foggy...the rice wine was good too!)

You can find raw almost-anything in Japan...beef, fish, chicken, and even horse. They're quite careful about food handling over there, thank goodness.

I think the BC Health folks might have a problem with some of those dishes showing up on a restaurant menu on this side of the ocean!

AnnaG

#33

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

Yep, and sushi can be vegetarian too! Don't have to worry about the worms there, usually. One of my favorites is "natto sushi"...it's a simple one...sticky, slimy, smelly fermented soybeans surrounded by a sheet of "nori" (seaweed). Pretty strong tasting, but with a couple of "spollops" of karashi (hot mustard), it's a pretty bracing experience.

Makazushi is what they call the sushi rolled in seaweed. The ingredients layered in a bowl is chirashizushi. They have other names for different styles but those are the ones I know about. I'm too lazy to make sushi so I make chirashizushi. lol
I love nori. I eat it like a snack sometimes. Tough to get here so I usually get dulse.
I'll pass on the rotting beans. I'm usually not fond of smelly things because they usually taste like they smell. lol

Quote:

Hey AnnaG...you're a bit of a foodie, I know. Here's one for you...back in '95, I was invited to dinner at a special and famous chicken restaurant down in southern Japan. The restaurant has their own chicken farm attached. Imagine my surprise when the first course arrived - chicken sashimi! Oh boy, it was a bit of a challenge to get the first piece down, but it got easier as the drinks flowed. Turned out to be a pretty good meal, although raw chicken was involved in at least 3 of the 7 courses. (Memory is a bit foggy...the rice wine was good too!)

I wouldn't even eat my own raw chicken let alone that junk from the markets. It's something to do with the texture. lol

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You can find raw almost-anything in Japan...beef, fish, chicken, and even horse. They're quite careful about food handling over there, thank goodness.

I think the BC Health folks might have a problem with some of those dishes showing up on a restaurant menu on this side of the ocean!

Yeah. I think it's a thing about pride in craftsmanship with the Japanese. They seem to be offended if you don't enjoy a meal. If you ever got sick from their meal, they'd prolly quit cooking and go ruru (or however it's spelt). I don't think they do the seppuku thing anymore. lol

countryboy

#34

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

Makazushi is what they call the sushi rolled in seaweed. The ingredients layered in a bowl is chirashizushi. They have other names for different styles but those are the ones I know about. I'm too lazy to make sushi so I make chirashizushi. lol
I love nori. I eat it like a snack sometimes. Tough to get here so I usually get dulse.
I'll pass on the rotting beans. I'm usually not fond of smelly things because they usually taste like they smell. lol

I wouldn't even eat my own raw chicken let alone that junk from the markets. It's something to do with the texture. lol

Yeah. I think it's a thing about pride in craftsmanship with the Japanese. They seem to be offended if you don't enjoy a meal. If you ever got sick from their meal, they'd prolly quit cooking and go ruru (or however it's spelt). I don't think they do the seppuku thing anymore. lol

Like their meats, seppuku is pretty rare! I think the last case of it was in the 80s or somewhere around that time.

Their version of KFC is called Chicken Karaage...but it's good! (and cooked too!)
I ate pretty much exclusively Japanese food for 6 years straight...nice experience. I was able to travel all over the country and eat regional & seasonal favourites. Probably saved my life, as I modified my eating habits from the American-style diet I had previously. Now it's hard to sit down to a meal with only 2 or 3 things on the plate. Good thing my better half is Japanese, eh? I do the "gaijin" cooking, she does the Asian stuff.

Being as how this thread is about McDs and ants, I can say that I rarely ran across a "questionable" eating place in Japan...they still have tons of Mom & Pop eateries, and they do take pride in what they do. Best places to eat in Japan? Small neighborhood eateries...cheap, great, and fresh.

They have lots of McDs too, but who cares? Not me.

Lulu or ruru? Here's the trick...superimpose an "L" on top of an "R" (liked a sharply-rolled "L", and you have it). At reast, I sink zat's ze way...Like the old joke goes, "Is that "L" as in Rome, or "R" as in London?"

Ron in Regina

#35

mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Try Googling "acceptable level of insect parts and rat droppings" with
respect to mass produced and restaurant food. The FDA is a wealth of
information on the topic.

Ron in Regina

#36

mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Defect Levels Handbook

countryboy

#37

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Try Googling "acceptable level of insect parts and rat droppings" with
respect to mass produced and restaurant food. The FDA is a wealth of
information on the topic.

Will do that, but it reminds me of the numbers I read once on the "acceptable levels" of rodent droppings for packaged raisins. Gee, I would have thought that some kind of "zero tolerance" policy would be the best way to go.

Raising one's own food is starting to sound better all the time. Eating out is sounding worse by the minute.

In BC, they used to show a video during FoodSafe training (probably still do) and it showed a renactment of an outbreak of food poisoning on a CN cross-Canada train. Seems the chef had a bad cold one day, and was sneezing and coughing and using a kitchen towel to "mop up" the mucus. He decided to pre-cook the roast beef for the night and then take a nap so he'd be feeling better when it came time to complete the dinner. He left the roast beef on a counter covered with...you guessed it - one of the kitchen towels! I can't remember if anyone actually died from it, but the train had to make an unscheduled stop to have many of the passengers treated for food poisoning at a hospital.

You never know what goes on "behind the scenes" and it's probably better that you don't!

JLM

#38

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Try Googling "acceptable level of insect parts and rat droppings" with
respect to mass produced and restaurant food. The FDA is a wealth of
information on the topic.

Speaking of rat droppings makes me think of some old work mates of mine who were involved in the survey for the Yellowhead Hwy. back in the 50s (those good years) and were staying in the old hotel in Blue River and eating in the restaurant there and having lunches packed. Well, apparently there was a barrel of raisin pie filling kept in the basement (want me to continue?) Anyway the boys opened their lunch buckets one day and found some tarts, which most of the younger crew members gobbled down with zest. An older member took out his pocket knife and flipped the lid off the tart and started flicking the "raisins" and looking a little concerned. Finally he said "boys, you just been eating mouse sh*t". I guess the boys were a little green for the rest of the day.

countryboy

#39

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by JLM

Speaking of rat droppings makes me think of some old work mates of mine who were involved in the survey for the Yellowhead Hwy. back in the 50s (those good years) and were staying in the old hotel in Blue River and eating in the restaurant there and having lunches packed. Well, apparently there was a barrel of raisin pie filling kept in the basement (want me to continue?) Anyway the boys opened their lunch buckets one day and found some tarts, which most of the younger crew members gobbled down with zest. An older member took out his pocket knife and flipped the lid off the tart and started flicking the "raisins" and looking a little concerned. Finally he said "boys, you just been eating mouse sh*t". I guess the boys were a little green for the rest of the day.

Whoo, I can learn at least 4 lessons from that one...

1. Keep the raisin pie filling barrel tightly sealed at all times
2. Always carry a handy pocket knife
3. Check food for mouse turds before eating
4. The 50s were still better in many (other) ways

countryboy

#40

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

Whoo, I can learn at least 4 lessons from that one...

1. Keep the raisin pie filling barrel tightly sealed at all times
2. Always carry a handy pocket knife
3. Check food for mouse turds before eating
4. The 50s were still better in many (other) ways

Oh, and no. 5: Immune systems were much stronger back in the 50s!

JLM

#41

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by countryboy

Oh, and no. 5: Immune systems were much stronger back in the 50s!

There you go, more proof the 50s were better.......................

Ron in Regina

#42

mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

RAISINS, NATURAL & GOLDENMold
(--)Average of 10 subsamples is 5% or more, by count, moldy raisins Sand and Grit
(--)Average of 40 mg or more of sand and grit per 100 grams of natural or golden bleached raisins
DEFECT SOURCE: Mold - post harvest and/or processing infection, Sand - post harvest contamination
SIGNIFICANCE: Aesthetic

RAISINS, GOLDENInsects and insect eggs
(AOAC 969.42 & --)10 or more whole or equivalent insects and 35 Drosophila eggs per 8 oz.
DEFECT SOURCE: Post harvest and/or processing infestation
SIGNIFICANCE: Aesthetic

shadowshiv

#43

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Yum! Insect eggs! Lots of protein!

countryboy

#44

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 4th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

RAISINS, NATURAL & GOLDENMold
(--)Average of 10 subsamples is 5% or more, by count, moldy raisins Sand and Grit
(--)Average of 40 mg or more of sand and grit per 100 grams of natural or golden bleached raisins
DEFECT SOURCE: Mold - post harvest and/or processing infection, Sand - post harvest contamination
SIGNIFICANCE: Aesthetic

RAISINS, GOLDENInsects and insect eggs
(AOAC 969.42 & --)10 or more whole or equivalent insects and 35 Drosophila eggs per 8 oz.
DEFECT SOURCE: Post harvest and/or processing infestation
SIGNIFICANCE: Aesthetic

1. I wonder if sand/grit qualifies as extra fibre?
2. Almost 3 dozen eggs per 8 oz. - although I guess Drosophila isn't a chicken, is it?

Francis2004

#45

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 5th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by shadowshiv

Yum! Insect eggs! Lots of protein!

Does Taco Bell serve the little legs as drum sticks..

Mowich

#46

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 5th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by AnnaG

I got those in a piece of halibut once. The word got around town.
I'll eat halibut I'm not that crazy about it.

Ants are almost entirely proteins and they are fastidious for cleanliness.

Mmmmn....mmmmn good.. chocolate covered ants. Crunchy and sweet. Grasshoppers aren't bad either.

shadowshiv

#47

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 5th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Francis2004

Does Taco Bell serve the little legs as drum sticks..

I'm still going to eat there.

Ron in Regina

#48

mcdonalds antics

Jan 5th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Defect Levels Handbook

Here's the Wikipedia summary of the above link: --

This would be a fail.

countryboy

#49

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 5th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Here's the Wikipedia summary of the above link: --

This would be a fail.

Yes, I can see that! Looks like that monster was in the bread pan before it was baked. Went through the slicer nice and neat. I think I just remembered why I like to bake my own bread!

countryboy

#50

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 5th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Here's the Wikipedia summary of the above link: --

This would be a fail.

Yes, I can see that! Looks like that monster was in the bread pan before it was baked. Went through the slicer nice and neat. I think I just remembered why I like to bake my own bread!

JLM

#51

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 5th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by Ron in Regina

Here's the Wikipedia summary of the above link: --

This would be a fail.

Yep, not very appetizing, but I suppose the baking would sanitize it, but you'd still wnat to cut off the offending portion............................

But a lot of people are missing the main problem.........................it's white bread.....

spaminator

#52

Re: mcdonalds antics

Jan 5th, 2010

News Toronto & GTA
Ants found in burritos under investigation
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A Markham man says he found about 50 ants in his McDonald's breakfast burrito.
Play Video Ants have been known to ruin picnics, but the last place you'd expect to find them is in your fast food.
To Tommy Lam, the "Golden Arches" have become a lot more tarnished, after he found at least 50 dead ants in his McDonald's breakfast burrito on Saturday. But so far, he hasn't heard an apology.
"This whole ordeal is mind-boggling," Lam, 28, said yesterday.
"I get sick thinking of what happened."
Lee and his girlfriend stopped by the busy fast-food restaurant at Markham Rd. and Denison St. on their way to work at his business, the Jewellery Box.
After waiting 15 minutes in line, the couple said they ordered four pita sandwiches to go. It wasn't until they opened the paper wrapping did they discover dozens of ants inside and outside their burritos.
While Lam admits while he hasn't fallen ill to ingesting several bites of the ant-laced burrito, it's protein that's unwanted.
"When I think of it, it grosses me out," he said. "Just bringing back the bad memories.
"Fifty ants is the minimum, but I think it was closer to 80 or 90."
Lam said the York Region Health Agency took a sample of the ant-infested burrito and sent it off for inspection.
McDonald's Canada, for its part, said it's still investigating the cause of the insects.
"We immediately began a thorough investigation, which has been unable to confirm the customer's allegation," wrote McDonald's Restaurants of Canada spokesman Stephanie Sorensen in an e-mail statement.
Ants found in burritos under investigation | Toronto & GTA | News | Toronto Sun

no color

#53

Re: mcdonalds antics

Feb 6th, 2010

It doesn't really surprise me that this fellow was unfortunate enough to find ants in his food at a McDonald's restaurant as it can happen at any fast food joint.

I myself have not set foot inside a McDonald's for many years now. I do eat fast food on average twice a week, but not at McDonald's. I frequent Burger King and Harvey's. McDonald's does not want my business, so I don't eat there. McDonald's restaurants here in Montreal have French only menus inside their establishments, and as I can't read the menus, I have no choice but to dine at Burger King or Harvey's where they do display English menus. Given the fact that McDonald's caters only to the French speaking population living in Quebec, then those of us in Quebec who speak English (some 800,000 plus), will surely not dine at an establishment that practices and supports discrimination towards a huge segment of the population.

gopher

#54

Re: mcdonalds antics

Sep 26th, 2010

I have not read all the posts on this thread so here's a question and apologize if it has been asked already: given all the bad news about fast food places, do any of you still eat at those joints?

I ate at a MCDonald's for breakfast about a month ago and hope to God that it is the last time I ever do.

Risus

#55

Re: mcdonalds antics

Sep 27th, 2010

Quote: Originally Posted by gopher

I have not read all the posts on this thread so here's a question and apologize if it has been asked already: given all the bad news about fast food places, do any of you still eat at those joints?

I ate at a MCDonald's for breakfast about a month ago and hope to God that it is the last time I ever do.

I can't remember the last time I've been in a fast food joint, its been so long.

TenPenny

#56

Re: mcdonalds antics

Sep 27th, 2010

Sure I do, occasionally, the kids do occasionally.

gopher

#57

Re: mcdonalds antics

Sep 27th, 2010

For reasons beyond my control I had to eat breakfast at McDonald's about a month ago - the **** was so bad it left me feeling bloated. Honest, I just cannot understand how anyone can eat that sh!t since it is so bad and so expensive.

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