Anti Apartheid Week

Anti Apartheid Week


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Goober

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Anti Apartheid Week

Israel again -
Why do these people ignore the massive Human Rights violations in Arab Countries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_Apartheid_Weekhttp://apartheidweek.org/

Michael Ignatieff: Israel Apartheid Week and CUPE Ontario’s anti-Israel posturing should be condemned - Full Comment

Throughout our history, Canadians have strived to understand each other across the solitudes that have broken other countries to pieces. Our common national purpose has been built on our diversity.We respect differences — of opinion, nationality, race and creed. We abandon that respect at our peril.“Israel Apartheid Week” (IAW), now underway on university campuses across Canada, betrays the values of mutual respect that Canada has always promoted.International law defines “apartheid” as a crime against humanity. Labelling Israel as an “apartheid” state is a deliberate attempt to undermine the legitimacy of the Jewish state itself.Criticism of Israel is legitimate. Attempting to describe its very existence as a crime against humanity is not.

http://www.britannica.com/blogs/2009/03/israel-apartheid-week-anti-semitism-by-any-other-name/

Throughout this week cities around the world will mark the annual Israeli Apartheid Week, or IAW for short. Organized by the Students Against Israeli Apartheid, or SAIA, it claims its purpose is “to educate people about the nature of Israel as an apartheid system and to build Boycott, Divestment, and Sanctions (BDS) campaigns as part of a growing global BDS movement.”

In actuality, it is a pro-Palestinian, Molotov cocktail of political intolerance, illiberal personal attacks, and lurking, latent anti-Semitism.

The real purpose of the event is to dupe the general public, especially impressionable students, into thinking that Israel is an apartheid state akin to South Africa before the ANC’s triumph in 1994.

Never mind that Israel affords all of its Arab citizens equal political and legal rights, something noticeably absent in South Africa. Never mind that access to public institutions, such as education and health care, is granted to all equally.

Of course, if one repeats a lie a thousand times, people will recognize it as truth.The week also features a series of events and speakers pinning every imaginable crime the Palestinian people have suffered at the hands of Israel, from ethnic cleansing to labor exploitation.

No mention of the radical Hamas, or the brutally corrupt Fatah.

No mention of Camp David in 2000, or the various efforts among Israeli doves to give Palestinians their own state.

The objective is clear: Israel - the refuge for Jews, the state that could have provided safe haven from the countless pogroms and the Holocaust had it existed earlier in human history - can only do wrong.

Proponents of IAW argue that they are not antisemitic, but merely anti-Israeli. Sure, criticism of any state’s policies and actions are necessary, even welcome.

But why is it that those who claim to represent Palestinian interests in North America will ignore all the other problems the Palestinian people face in order to target Israel and Israel only?

Surely, some of the blame has to fall to Hamas, who is more interested in launching rockets than providing basic services to its own people. And surely some of the responsibility lies with Yasir Arafat, who walked away from a deal for Palestinian sovereignty and half of Jerusalem, and who stole from the Palestinian people’s own coffers as they were dying for his “Intifada.”

How far can we single out a state and attribute it responsibility for all the world’s ills before we approach the territory of anti-Semitic paranoia akin to the Protocols of Zion?http://www.zionismontheweb.org/antisemitism/british_antisemitism_racism_as_anti-racism_in_anti-apartheid_week_uk.htm

It is tempting to launch into the absurdity of the apartheid claim, and many do. This time last year the Jerusalem Post carried an editorial entitled "The 'Israel Apartheid Week' libel". Understanding the absurdity of the claim is important, but that doesn't explain the inherent racism within this supposedly anti-racist campaign. The racist element is not something Jews should have to fight alone; rather, it is an illness that all those who are serious about combating racism should help to diagnose and cure when they encounter it. Further explanation is needed so they, too, can understand what Jews and South Africans find so offensive about this "anti-apartheid" campaign.

In 2004, Natan Sharansky, a notable former dissident in the Soviet Union, explained to a US Congressional Commission how one could identify antisemitism. He proposed the "3D" test: double standards, demonisation and delegitimisation. "Double standards" is perhaps the most obvious. Whether one is speaking of the treatment of a student by their teachers or the treatment of states by human rights organisations, to have different rules for different people is discriminatory. When that discrimination is based on membership of an ethnic group, it is racism.

http://www.nationalpost.com/news/story.html?id=1343206

Though much of the rhetoric is familiar, the tactics used to attract attention to Israel's alleged atrocities in Gaza has taken a turn for the shrill and, sometimes, threatening.In early January at the University of Manitoba, the school's Muslim Students' Association put up a series of posters near a campus bookshop that drew irate complaints. One of them depicted a Jewish fighter plane targeting a baby stroller. Another featured a caricature of a hooked-nosed Hasidic Jew with a star of David, pointing a bazooka at the nose of an Arab carrying a slingshot; a third one showed an Israeli helicopter with a swastika on top, dropping a bomb on a baby bottle.

The school forced their removal the same day.
 

Walter

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Tom Lehrer said it best:

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics,
And the Catholics hate the Protestants,
And the Hindus hate the Muslims,
And everybody hates the Jews.
 

L Gilbert

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Hate the Jew? Not me. Not anymore than I can hate the Christian, Muslim, Buddhist, or any other people who choose a religion.
What I dislike are the administrations of Israel, the Hezbollah, the USA, El Qaeda, China, Hamas, etc.
 

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All Palistine has to do is lay down their guns and rockets that they shoot into Israel everyday and give up then they can rebuild and have a good economy
 

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a bullsh*t trolling thread.....again.
Check out AH week - who their speakers are - how little to no dissent is allowed and when allowed they are treated by the audience as lepers -

If that is trolling - then I am guilty - when you have a one sided discussion - that to me in this case meets the standards for a hate Crime - Singling out an ethic or religious group - of course under the cover of Israel and atrocities - Nothing about Hamas etc.

That goes against the so called Canadian Human Rights Legislation - But the Commission will do nothing - why - to left wing -

Rather go after Levant for publishing cartoons of Mohammed
or the restaurant owner for asking an employee to smoke his medicinal marijuana away from the entrance to his establishment -
 

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Arabism & Islamism the twin fascism, Arab racism & Islamofascism

The twin fascisms that causes most massacres, wars, "conflicts" today:

Arabism is racism (Arab racism)
Millions upon Millions are/became victims of [pan-] Arabism which is the worst current form of racism in its gigantic proportions, like: Kurds Jews (not just in Israel) Berbers (the real natives of North Africa), Africans (not just in the genocide in the Sudan or in Egypt on native Nubians by Arab invaders – till today), Persians, etc.

Islamism is bigotry (Islamofascism)!
The Islamic supremacy that “works” towards its vision of “final Islamic domination on the entire planet”, from Middle east to Africa from Asia to Eurabia, from terrorism & massacres in multiple countries (like: Thailand, Phillipines, China, Indonesia, Tunisia, Morocco, Kenya, Tanzania, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Lebanon India, USA, France, Israel, Russia, UK, etc.) to propaganda, the war includes on Muslims who are not radical enough...

Anti-Israel genocide campaign motivation = bigotry!

Let’s face it! that entire war on Israel & the Jews since the 1920’s by infamous facsist Mufti Haj Amin Al-Husseini who started the “genocide campaign” as he's put it: 'Kill all Jews' [and continues by the children, grand children of Arab immigrants into Israel - Palestine - now convenienently called "palestinians"] in a clear outlined declaration to 'kill all Jews', is nothing but out of pure Arab Muslim bigotry.

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Self inflicted fake "victimhood" of the Arab "palestinians"

Why does biased media blame Israel defenders from vicious Arab Muslims who use civilians when they attack Israeli civilians... so that their civilians (they prefer kids to) die then parade with the casualties as "innocent victims"???

Islamo Arab apartheid vs democratic Israel with --often-- Arabs as... FIRST CLASS citizens.

BTW
While the Islamo Arab dictatorship goes on...
Israeli [ungrateful] Arabs won't mention FAVORITISM by democratic pluralistic multi-racial Israel in: land, courts & universities.
 
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Check out AH week - who their speakers are - how little to no dissent is allowed and when allowed they are treated by the audience as lepers -

If that is trolling - then I am guilty - when you have a one sided discussion - that to me in this case meets the standards for a hate Crime - Singling out an ethic or religious group - of course under the cover of Israel and atrocities - Nothing about Hamas etc.

That goes against the so called Canadian Human Rights Legislation - But the Commission will do nothing - why - to left wing -

Rather go after Levant for publishing cartoons of Mohammed
or the restaurant owner for asking an employee to smoke his medicinal marijuana away from the entrance to his establishment -


put simply, you're an idiot. Your poll questions make no sense at all. You present a question and then offer 3 questions as possible answers to your poll question......answer a question with a question????????:roll:

at one point you state that Israel is NOT an apartheid country because of what and who the citizenry is made up of and then you state that those that are against Israel are against Jews..... come on now, if Israel is more than just Jews, then you can't really say that those that oppose Israel are anti-jews...... now can you.
 

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Uh why does bashing Israel always come down to comparing it to Arab countries or *gasp* talking about Germany? Come off it and get straight to the topic at hand.

Comparing Israel's behavior to Apartheid -- Apartheid which at least offered some sort of humanity and certainty to it's victims -- is like comparing apples and oranges. If anybody here has seen how Palestinians in supposed "Palestine" are treated, they'd throw-up.

Hello, I'd rather be a Jew in Warsaw in 1942.. I'd much, much rather be black during Apartheid in South Africa pre-1994.

Get a life. Life in Israel is worse than Apartheid for non-Tourists-Jews in every dimension.
 

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Uh why does bashing Israel always come down to comparing it to Arab countries or *gasp* talking about Germany? Come off it and get straight to the topic at hand.

Comparing Israel's behavior to Apartheid -- Apartheid which at least offered some sort of humanity and certainty to it's victims -- is like comparing apples and oranges. If anybody here has seen how Palestinians in supposed "Palestine" are treated, they'd throw-up.

Hello, I'd rather be a Jew in Warsaw in 1942.. I'd much, much rather be black during Apartheid in South Africa pre-1994.

Get a life. Life in Israel is worse than Apartheid for non-Tourists-Jews in every dimension.

Andem
The reason for comparison is clear - they are the ones in and at continious conflict.

I did not make any comparision to Germany -
But the genocide started by Hitler is deeply ingrained in every Jew - They need a State to survive any such genocides in the future - A safe haven -

We all saw how the West did nothing when Hitler offered up Jews for emigration- Turned away.

Being an informed person you would realize that Hamas in the Gaza Strip realizes that a peace settlement with Isreal is inevitable -
But their leaders safely ensconced in damascus and other Arab Coutries are dead set against any compromise with Isreal -
Closer you are to reality increases your understanding of what is required - This applies to Hamas in Gaza - Not the ones that send out the orders

Anti Apartheid Week not only targets Isreal but anyone that supports Israel - And Jews are on the list - Read up on the speakers that these groups have - what their opinions are -

You state you would rather be a Jew in Warsaw in 1942 than be a non tourist in Isreal -

Check the timelines before you make such a statement. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grossaktion_Warsaw_(1942)

For eight weeks the rail shipments of Jews to Treblinka went on without stopping: 100 people to a cattle truck, 5,000 to 6,000 each and every day including hospital patients and orphanage children. Dr Janusz Korczak, a famed educator went with them in August 1942. He was offered a chance to escape from the deportations by Polish friends and admirers, but he chose instead to share the fate of his life's work.[14][15] On arrival at Treblinka, stripped victims were marched to one of ten chambers and gassed in batches of 200 with the use of monoxide gas (Zyklon B was introduced at Auschwitz some time later). Civilians were forbidden to approach the area

During the two months of summer 1942, about 254,000 Ghetto residents were sent to Treblinka and exterminated there (or at least 300,000 by different accounts,[12][1] possibly, with the inclusion of the Ghetto falling considered by many a part of the operation).[13] The sheer death-toll among the Jewish inhabitants of the Ghetto during the Gross-aktion would have been difficult to compare even with the liquidation of the Ghetto in spring of next year during and after the courageous Ghetto Uprising which meant annihilation of around 50,000 people. The Gross Aktion resulted in the death of five times as many victims. It is fair to assume then, that it was not the actual razing of the ghetto that resulted in the destruction of the Jewish population of Warsaw, but mainly the murderous operation of a previous summer that did it.[2]


And I have a life -
 

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Read that a day ago -=- If it gets Israel to a fair negotiation - fine - But to target Israel as the new flavor for Left Wing idiots (many uninformed as the youth of today have demonstrated time and again)

Many people forget that there are 3 sides to a coin. - An old Hebrew saying.

And then to tackle the hate that has been built up over generations and centuries - Both sides have a lot of hard work ahead.
 

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Uh why does bashing Israel always come down to comparing it to Arab countries or *gasp* talking about Germany? Come off it and get straight to the topic at hand.

Comparing Israel's behavior to Apartheid -- Apartheid which at least offered some sort of humanity and certainty to it's victims -- is like comparing apples and oranges. If anybody here has seen how Palestinians in supposed "Palestine" are treated, they'd throw-up.

Hello, I'd rather be a Jew in Warsaw in 1942.. I'd much, much rather be black during Apartheid in South Africa pre-1994.

Get a life. Life in Israel is worse than Apartheid for non-Tourists-Jews in every dimension.

Neither Jews in Warsaw in 1942, nor blacks in South Africa in the 80s enjoyed the right to vote, had representatives in the elected Parliament, were allowed to keep and bear arms if they had completed their military service (yes, some Arabs fight with the IDF), nor did they often win cases in the courts........all of these things do happen for Arabs in Israel.

Jews in Warsaw in 1942 had nothing to look forward to but the gas chamber. It is incredibly offensive to compare them with Arab citizens of Israel.......who, although admittedly not fully integrated, still enjoy most of the priviledges of a secular western democracy. Likewise blacks in South Africa who, although they were the vast majority, lived under incredible legal restriction in a undemocratic state......

As for "Palestine" it doesn't freaking exist.........the West Bank and Gaza are simply a no-man's land, populated by a people neither Israel, Jordan, nor Egypt want, appreciated by the Arab world only as a club with which to beat Israel, on land Israel has repeatedly tried to return to its rightful owners.........

Israeli "apartheid" is a very bad joke.......a simplistic, inaccurate, and severely insulting propaganda blitz for the unthinking, the unknowing, and the haters.