Summer polar ice may vanish in 7 years: Al Gore

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Former U.S. vice president Al Gore gestures as he joins cabinet ministers from Nordic countries for discussions, at the UN Climate summit in Copenhagen, Denmark, on Monday, Dec. 14, 2009. (AP / Anja Niedringhaus)

Updated: Mon Dec. 14 2009 19:28:17

CTV.ca News Staff
New modelling suggests that the Arctic Ocean could be almost ice-free in the summertime as early as 2014, Al Gore warned delegates Monday at the climate change conference in Copenhagen.
The projection, based on computer models showing several years of dramatic losses of polar sea ice, suggest the ice cap could vanish well before 2030, as forecast by the U.S. government eight months ago.
A U.S. government scientist said the new prediction was too severe, but many other researchers have predicted a quicker end to the summer Arctic ice cap as well.
"It is hard to capture the astonishment that the experts in the science of ice felt when they saw this," former U.S. Vice-President Gore said in his first appearance at the two-week conference.
His group presented two new reports on developments in Antarctica, Greenland, and the rest of the Arctic.
"The time for collective and immediate action on climate change is now," Denmark's foreign minister, Per Stig Moeller, said.
However, the negotiations were bogged down through much of Monday, even as developing countries agreed to resume talks.
European Union spokesperson Andreas Carlgren said a series of informal talks resolved the impasse, which erupted when developing countries halted the negotiations and demanded that rich countries offer much deeper cuts in their greenhouse gas emissions.
Representatives from 135 developing countries had refused to participate in any working groups when the boycott was announced earlier Monday. The move disrupted delegates from working on technical issues they hope to resolve before the arrival of more than 110 world leaders later this week.
Poor countries, supported by China, suggested that conference president Connie Hedegaard had raised suspicion that the conference was likely to kill the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which limited carbon emissions by wealthy countries and imposed penalties for failing to meet those targets. These countries want to extend Kyoto, but the U.S. has withdrawn from the treaty, citing economic concerns and the fact that China, India and other major greenhouse gas emitters are not required to take action.
Gore's reports
Gore and Danish ice scientist Dorthe Dahl Jensen used slide shows to present two reports at a stand-room only crowd of hundreds.
One report was on the Greenland ice sheet and was issued by the Arctic Monitoring and Assessment Program, a group formed by eight Arctic governments, including Canada and U.S. The other report commissioned by both Gore and Norway, was compiled by the Norwegian Polar Institute on the status of ice melt worldwide.
Average global temperatures have increased 0.74 C in the past century, but twice as quickly in the Arctic. Scientists says the northern polar ice has dropped significantly in recent years.
In summer 2007, the Arctic ice cap was reduced to a record low of 4.3 million square kilometres. The melting in 2008 and 2009 was the second and third greatest decreases on record.
"Some of the models suggest that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire north polar ice cap during some of the summer months will be (nearly) ice-free within the next five to seven years," Gore said.
No consensus
Prior to the end of the boycott, CTV's Tom Kennedy described Monday's events as being a "global squabble" with "no sign of an emerging global consensus."
"At the moment, it does really look like a complete and utter failure is possible," he told CTV News Channel by telephone.
Others saw more progress in the talks that have taken place so far.
"I don't think the talks are falling apart, but we're losing time," said Kim Carstensen, of the World Wildlife Fund.
Canada's environment minister, Jim Prentice, said Monday's boycott was "not particularly helpful" to the Copenhagen talks.
Earlier Monday, Prentice said the divide between the U.S. and some of the major emitters is posing a challenge to the ongoing climate negotiations.
"Essentially, here in Copenhagen, the United States has indicated they're not prepared to ratify the Kyoto Protocol, or something that looks like Kyoto," Prentice told CTV's Canada AM from Copenhagen on Monday.
"The Chinese, the Indians, Brazilians and others, want an international agreement that looks a lot like Kyoto, in terms of some of the obligations. And so that is the essential challenge we all face at the negotiating table."
Despite the challenges, Prentice said he remains optimistic that the 192 countries gathered in Copenhagen will be able to eventually make a deal they can all live with.
"We're hopeful that we can reach, essentially, an agreement in principle, which could then be translated into a full international treaty in the subsequent year 2010," he said.
From a Canadian perspective, Ottawa is hoping to also develop a continent-wide approach to fighting climate change in North America.
Also Monday, Canada's Conservative government was forced to refute a fake press release that suggested Ottawa would be changing its climate change policy.
It is not clear who is behind the fake press release.
"They don't know which group or who was targeting Canada for this kind of embarrassment, but it's just one more of these very peculiar elements coming out of what has been a very difficult conference so far," said Kennedy, when explaining the incident to CTV News Channel.
With files from The Canadian Press and The Associated Press
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Gary London
This boils down to what PM Harper summed it up to be many years ago. This is a lefty move to transfer wealth from the rich countries to the poor countries. Can anyone actually see this issue being resolved at all?


edjucated
I don't know why they are even invited.


Uncommon Sense
Continue without them. They are from "developping" countries, and therefor have no real negotiating power, other than foot stomping and other childish actions...so treat them in kind, send them to thier rooms!


Jason
Prentice wants a cap and trade system... but what do Canadians want? Something that affects every single man woman and child in the country should be put to a referendum before being ratified.


D Melanson
This proves that the environment has nothing to do with these talks.It's nothing but a front by so called "poor" countries to wring millions of $$$ from wealthier nations at taxpayer expense and the environment be damned.


MikeFromHalifax
Does this include China and India. Can someone explain to me how a country with over a billion and a half people who have had a culture happening for over four thousand years can still be considered as developing. We on the other hand have had a culture for roughly four hundred years with a population of thirty three million and are supposedly much more of a polluter. Give me a break. Get our politicians out of this before we are all sentenced to paying taxes to puppet regimes for the rest of our lives.


Edb(Hamilton)
Close up your briefcase and c'mon home Mr. PM.If the freeloader nations aren’t pleased with what amounts to a massive welfare check from us for zero return, I’d say "negotiations" are over. Let them learn to dig their own wells and plant their own crops.I’m sure there are some needy CANADIANS who could use a hand up.


Mike
Simply stop buying product from these countries, that will hurt the wallet even more. As well we should all buy north American only any ways.


Timm-ay
Clearly the focus of these talks is not on the environment, but on how much money can be made. Canada should internalize this issue, and let these children continue their petty squabling. Any moneis devoted to the environment should be dedicated to developing alternatives to the current status quo, and a made in Canada solution would be of net benefit for all Canadians, both environmentally and economically.


DCR-Toronto
What a complete charade this is. As these "developing nations" demand more money and become more like spoiled children, the less this is going to move forward.I am so so so happy we have PM Harper at this meeting. Imagine what Dion or Ignatieff would have signed away already. Scary...indeed.


Ryan the Realist
I don't agree with what those countries are doing but I think its GREAT. If Canada can get out of Copenhagen without having to make any commitments the better it is for the Canadian economy. Cap and Trade will destroy the economy of Canada that has does reasonably well compared to other countries. The less that comes from this farce the better.
 

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All is not what it seems with Al Gore's claim that ice could disappear completely from the North Pole by the middle of next decade.

In another blow to the Global Warming Brigade, it turns out that, not for the first time, Gore was exaggerating the threat of climate change.

Gore claimed a study showed a ‘75 per cent chance’ that the Arctic could be ice-free in the summer months within five to seven years.

However, even the study's author said his research showed ‘nothing of the sort’.

In 2007, a British court ruled Gore's Oscar-winning documentary An Inconvenient Truth was ‘alarmist’ and contained NINE scientific errors.

Inconvenient truth for Al Gore as he's caught exaggerating the threat of global warming... again

By David Derbyshire
16th December 2009
Daily Mail

Green crusader Al Gore was at the centre of a new spin row last night after he was caught out for a second time exaggerating the threat of global warming.

In a keynote speech at the Copenhagen talks, the former U.S. vice-president claimed the North Pole could be completely free of ice by the middle of the next decade.

He claimed a study showed a ‘75 per cent chance’ that the Arctic could be ice-free in the summer months within five to seven years.

However, Dr Wieslaw Maslowski, the study’s author, said his research revealed ‘nothing of the sort’.


Spin row: Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore makes his controversial speech during a presentation of a report on the melting of the Greenland ice sheet, at the Bella centre of Copenhagen yesterday

Dr Maslowski, of the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School in California, said: ‘I would never estimate likelihood at anything as exact as this. It’s unclear how this was arrived at.’

His comments are likely to embarrass Mr Gore, who has been accused of scaremongering.

Two years ago, a High Court judge ruled his Oscar-winning documentary An Inconvenient Truth was ‘alarmist’ and contained nine scientific errors.

It's the latest embarrassment for Gore, an outspoken environmental campaigner who has earned millions of pounds from green investments and faced repeated criticism for scaremongering.

The court said copies of the film sent to secondary schools should be accompanied with notes to balance Gore's views.

This week at a speech at the Copenhagen climate talks, Gore said crumbling ice sheets, disappearing glaciers and the shrinking Arctic ice cap were feeding global warming and fuelling rising sea levels.

He cited new research from climatologist Dr Wieslaw Maslowski that showed the Arctic ice cap may have shrunk to record low-levels last year.

'Some of the models suggest to Dr. Maslowski that there is a 75 per cent chance that the entire polar ice cap during some summer months could be completely ice free within five to seven years,' Gore said.

But the American scientist rejected the claim.

Dr Maslowki, who works at the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School in California, said that his latest results gave a six-year projection for the melting of 80 per cent of the ice, but said he expected some ice to remain beyond 2020.

'I was very explicit that we were talking about near-ice-free conditions and not completely ice-free conditions in the northern ocean,' he said.

Mr Gore’s office later admitted that the figure of 75 per cent had been used by Dr Maslowksi as a 'ballpark figure' several years ago during a private conversation.

The speech was criticised by climate scientists.

'This is an exaggeration that opens the science up to criticism from sceptics,' said Dr Jim Overland, a leading oceanographer at the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration said.

'You really don’t need to exaggerate the changes in the Arctic.'

Dr Benny Peiser, of the sceptical Global Warming Policy Foundation, said; 'Al Gore has a track record of making false and misleading claims. Governments would be well advised to stop listening to Mr Gore and other Doomsday prophets.'

Gore has become a hate figure for sceptics of climate change.

In 2007, High Court judge Mr Justice Barton ruled that his documentary was accurate on links between climate change and human activity - but that it contained nine scientific errors.

These inconvenient untruths included the claim that the snows on Mount Kilimanjaro were disappearing and solely due to the global warming and that sea levels will rise up to 20 feet in the near future.

Gore was jointly awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2007.

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darkbeaver

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A good five or six span a home spun organic hemp would shorten the publics torture by this organism. It would be a green trial outside in the town square followed by an environmentally friendly execution. A wonderful family event for this holiday season. call for tickets and inquire about our free for children banker beatings
 

countryboy

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Y'know, for a guy who looks like he never gets his hands dirty, he sure steps in the sh*t frequently. If he was more aware of reality, he might even be embarrassed. But he's not, so he's not.
 

EagleSmack

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I wish Al Gore would vanish,anything for a buck though.

Indeed...he makes big bucks with his holdings in a carbon credit company. That is how he is carbon neutral, stocks in a company that takes advantage of people who think they are doing the right thing.
 

Kakato

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Indeed...he makes big bucks with his holdings in a carbon credit company. That is how he is carbon neutral, stocks in a company that takes advantage of people who think they are doing the right thing.
He took a page out of Moe Strongs book on how to milk the rest of the world,but he was a bit late getting to the party.:lol:
 

Kakato

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Not to mention the zinc mining that he allows on his land in Tennessee.

Or his scientology retreat with bud Tom Cruise,or his ties with China's dirty coal and all the new plants,he's the only non national that China has on the govt board for coal fired plants.

Follow the money,this is the age of information,you cant hide anything anymore as the past lib govt. has found out.

Moe was the major contribuotor on recommendations to the Kyoto agreement.
He also authoured a lot of it,follow the money,Moe has an agenda.