Would you bomb a school?

Would you bomb a school?

In Between Man

Free Thinker

#91

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 12th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

I do have room left on the list for a light thin one like you though.

Hmmm... No thank you. I prefer to stay off your enemies list and on your friends list! Tell ya what... why don't you head over to BC, like you said you would in the "Really kickass spots to smoke pot and enjoy the view" thread, I'll take ya to an awesome spot, we'll get super ripped,

and then you and I can solve this whole silly tiff ourselves!

You'll have to work hard to change my mind however. Even though I like the idea of arab/jewish intergation in one nation, I really don't think either side will ever, ever accept each other as fellow citizens. In reality, a two state solution seems to be the only viable one. So why not a jewish state and an arab state? Maybe I'm wrong.

Last edited by In Between Man; Jan 12th, 2009 at 09:03 PM..Reason: g

Tyr

Free Thinker

#92

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 12th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by Zzarchov

See, alot of people take the view if you decide that both sides are bad that is somehow neutral.

It isn't, one is an accidentally killing civilians, one is intentionally hitting civilians.

IF they are equal in evil, then you seem to be suggesting Israel should just dumb mustard gas on Gaza and kill every living person and its not any worse than their current plan of trying to avoid civilian casualties.

When you lump a military operation, executed with more care than our own military does in built up operations, with direct assault on civilians you are not being neutral.

You are also implying all of our own Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan are also terrorists no better than those who take explosives to buses full of children and the elderly.

It isn't, one is an accidentally killing civilians, one is intentionally hitting civilians.

...and if I go to a cemetary and gaze out over the graves, I'm pretty sure they're all dead - accidently or intentionally, it matters little.

Francis2004

#93

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 12th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by Tyr

It isn't, one is an accidentally killing civilians, one is intentionally hitting civilians.

...and if I go to a cemetary and gaze out over the graves, I'm pretty sure they're all dead - accidently or intentionally, it matters little.

and if I go to a cemetary and gaze out over the graves, I'm pretty sure they're all dead - accidently or intentionally, it matters little.

Didn't you mean mass graves of civilians ? Besides how do you "Accidentaly Kill Civilians" for 60 years ?

einmensch

#94

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 13th, 2009

Zz-900 dead 277 children 300more civilians and 300militants--
OOPS we killed 600 civilians by accident-

Zzarchov

#95

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 13th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by Tyr

It isn't, one is an accidentally killing civilians, one is intentionally hitting civilians.

...and if I go to a cemetary and gaze out over the graves, I'm pretty sure they're all dead - accidently or intentionally, it matters little.

If you gaze over a cemetary you also won't be able to tell the evil of the earth (murderers, rapists, pedophiles) from the saints and generous. You'll also notice that everybody dies in the end.

Looking over a cemetary is a poor way to guage morality, because death takes everyone, regardless of morality.

einmensch

#96

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 13th, 2009

"If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It's normal. We have taken their country."--David Ben-Gurion
Ah! Israeli forces are looking for rocket launchers in downtown Gaza City. Fierce fighting but no Israeli casualties?
Palestinian rockets are targeting Israeli military installations but a few out of several hundred accidentally hit and killed 3 Israeli civilians. The remainder caused a little damage.The price of Depends tripled over night.

Since 2001 rocket and mortar shell fire has been directly responsible for the deaths of 24 Israelis and the wounding of 620.

Here are some pictures of the things that are raining down on Sderot.

The Qassam rockets are lethal within at least 50 feet of the blast zone. They are designed to inflict injury with shrapnel rather than with the blast. Lucky for Israel this design flaw has prevented many injuries as the explosion happens outside a building rather than inside of them, shrapnel rarely penetrates walls. However, they are still very dangerous.

Qassam 1Qassam 2Qassam 3Length79 cm (2 ft 7 in)180 cm (5 ft 11 in)over 200 cm (6 ft 7 in)Diameter6 cm (2.4 in)15 cm (5.9 in)17 cm (6.7 in)Weight5.5 kg (12 lb)32 kg (71 lb)90 kg (198 lb)Explosives Payload0.5 kg (1.1 lb)5–7 kg (11–15 lb)10 kg (22 lb)Maximum Range3 km (1.9 mi)8–10 km (5.0–6.2 mi)
10 km (6.2 mi)

--#

Just the Facts

Free Thinker

#97

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 13th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by einmensch

Since 2001 rocket and mortar shell fire has been directly responsible for the deaths of 24 Israelis and the wounding of 620.

Even at rushing to bomb shelters the Jews can teach us something.

Just the Facts

Free Thinker

#98

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 13th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by einmensch

Israeli strike near a U.N. school Tuesday that Gaza health officials said killed 39 Palestinians. On Sunday, Israeli defense officials said an investigation by the military concluded that an Israeli mortar shell missed its target and hit near the school.
Hit near the school and killed 39 in the school. Only Israel can build them there mortars

Probably the school was wired and the mortar set it off. Think about it. Thank you. One thing you really can't accuse Israel of, no matter how much you may hate them, is not taking responsibilty for mistakes. They're more likely to apologize first then find out they didn't do it later than anyone else I'm aware of.

Quote:

Israeli attacks on UN convoys during a 3 hour promised lull by Israel

Ummm....that's not conclusive. There are some whisperings that in fact Hamas attacked the U.N. convoys.

Quote:

Israeli troops meet Hamas resistance deep in Gaza
Ah yes resistance ! ->>dead 20 Palestinians, 0 Israelis

No one needs to apologize for winning. Hamas operatives should have thought about that before each of the almost seven thousand rockets they fired in the last three years.

Quote:

use an excuse

Seven thousand rockets in three years. An excuse.

They would have been justified to do what they're doing now after the first fifty. They toughed it out through seven thousand. Deal with it.

TenPenny

#99

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 13th, 2009

Anyone who claims they wouldn't bomb a school hasn't read much history of WW2.

CDNBear

#100

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 15th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one

What can I say? $hit happens in a war zone.

That's a fact Jack!

Quote:

But Israeli apologists who support killing innocent children have now been exposed. I'm not sure I'd trust you to babysit children.

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one

But you are naive enough to believe everything the Israeli machine spits out.

Not at all. I know and have stated such in the past, as you are well aware of. That I find fault on both sides. Unlike yourself, a noted Hamas and Hezbollah supporter.

Quote: Originally Posted by einmensch

CDN Bear -Asshologist is approptiate for you. I'm glad that you know yourself.

This is true, i do know myself, being true to myself as well, I do not make vague generalisations and hide behind them, like yourself.

Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver

But you are obviously naive enough to believe that Hamas has a media machine , I suppose they could still have a hand operated one maybe. But you are definately naive and thick like de brick.

Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_one

Technically killing about 300 people in response to 0 deaths isn't a ratio.

Here eao, read this...

Quote:

Israel's retaliation on Gaza for Hamas' continuing rocket assaults on Israel is the hottest -- and arguably most controversial -- world issue of the moment.
Judging from news reports, some Jews are urging compassion for Palestinian civilians in Gaza. This (in my view) is misguided humanitarianism and, if successful, will merely guarantee that Israel's enemies will continue to harass and attack that country.
Instead of agreeing to temporary ceasefires to allow humanitarian aid into Gaza, Israel might consider studying policies of the old Iroquois confederacy, established some 100 years or more before Canada's discovery by Jacques Cartier followed by the first French settlement in 1605.

Israel can learn from Iroquois | Peter Worthington | Columnists | News | Toronto Sun

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny

Anyone who claims they wouldn't bomb a school hasn't read much history of WW2.

Well said Ten Penny. One needs only read the accounts of the Allied bombings in Holland and how the Dutch felt at that time to understand what you mean.

TenPenny

#101

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 15th, 2009

[quote=CDNBear;1039042]That's a fact Jack!

Lineman

#102

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 23rd, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by einmensch

Only Jewish children are precious all others are animals. Ask Lineman.

You know,, people here like to stir the pot but this one crosses a line. Maybe you could try getting your head outta your ass and come up with something that even resembles human conversation. For Chrissake can you even understand what you're reading? You're so bent on **** disturbing that you even suggest another person, who you know F-all about, values one child over another.
I spend the odd time on this site having discussions, the majority are good. Most of my free time after work is spent coaching, counseling, and generally working with kids. Maybe it's time you got your stinkin ass out of your basement and out into the real world and see if you could actually contribute something. F'in low-life leach..

Scott Free

Free Thinker

#103

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Jan 23rd, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by TenPenny

Anyone who claims they wouldn't bomb a school hasn't read much history of WW2.

My grandfather was in the air force during WWII. He was a fighter pilot and during a training mission they were simulating a bombing run against a coastal village. My grandfather broke formation and flew over the control tower. What are you doing they screamed. "I'm dropping my bombs on you son's of bi*ches, I signed up to kill soldiers not women and children!" My grandfather spent the rest of the war flying cargo planes and wasn't allowed anywhere near a battle field. I am so damn proud of my grandfather. Women and children die in war because soldiers kill them.

Last edited by Scott Free; Jan 23rd, 2009 at 02:31 AM..

kettyy

#104

Re: Would you bomb a school?

Mar 10th, 2009

Quote: Originally Posted by einmensch

Only Jewish children are precious all others are animals. Ask Lineman.

grow up!

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