Would you bomb a school?

CDNBear
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#31
"Would you bomb a school?"

Yep...Then I'ld bomb it again or look for another one to lob some hot rounds on. But then again, I'm not naive enough to believe everything the Hamas media machine spins out.
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by einmenschView Post

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They may be your natural friends but I consider them lower than animals ><>

Jews?
 
CDNBear
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Quote: Originally Posted by DurkaDurkaView Post

Jews?

Yes Durka old mate, the Jews. To ein, they're less then human. No wonder it's so easy for him and people like him to believe all that comes out of the rinse cycle they call the media.
 
Just the Facts
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Quote: Originally Posted by lone wolfView Post

Next contest in these Forums is to guess how many times Colpy has repeated this. Is it a chant or something?

It could be worse, he could be cutting and pasting five hundred word paragraphs that say the same thing over and over again. At least he's being concise and typing it himself. Gotta give vredit for that.

Repetition breeds repetition.
 
earth_as_one
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Israel finally admits the girl's school attack was an unintentional mistake and that they weren't attacked by militants in the school.

First Israel tried to use old footage of militants firing from a Gaza school along with their story about militants firiong on them.

Check out this propaganda:
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IDF: Hamas Used UN School to Fire Mortars

by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu

(IsraelNN.com) Hamas fired mortar shells from a United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) school in Jabalya before the IDF retaliated with aerial bombing that killed Hamas terrorists as well as children, according to an initial IDF investigation.

"Amongst the dead at the Jabalya school were Hamas terror operatives and a mortar battery cell who were firing on IDF forces in the area," the IDF said. "We face a very delicate situation where the Hamas is using the citizens of Gaza as a protective vest," according to IDF spokesman Brig. General Avi Benayahu.

The military said that it appeared "a number of mortar shells were fired at IDF forces from within the Jabalya school. In response to the incoming enemy fire, the forces returned mortar fire to the source." The IDF added that most probably a secondary explosion from explosives within the building added to the destruction.


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But the Israel propaganda had too many holes and it quickly sunk. (The images were of a different school for example.)

UNRWA challenged them, saying the video accompanying the story is old footage from over a year ago of militants using a school UNRWA says they abandoned and then was subsequently taken over by the militants.

Caught in a blatant lie, Israel has now admitted the shelling was an error and unintentional. There were no militants in or near the school.

From Haaretz:
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UNRWA: Army admitted bombed school did not harbor militants By Barak Ravid and Akiva Eldar The United Nations is claiming Israeli military officers have admitted the tank firing on the UNRWA school in Gaza, in which dozens of Palestinians were killed, was an error.
In addition, UNRWA yesterday announced it will cease activities in the Strip due to the death of an UNRWA staffer in an IDF shelling during yesterday morning's humanitarian hiatus.
UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness told Haaretz yesterday that the army had conceded wrongdoing. "In briefings senior [Israel Defense Forces] officers conducted for foreign diplomats, they admitted the shelling to which IDF forces in Jabalya were responding did not originate from the school," Gunness said. "The IDF admitted in that briefing that the attack on the UN site was unintentional."
He noted that all the footage released by the IDF of militants firing from inside the school was from 2007 and not from the incident itself. "There are no up-to-date photos," Gunness said. "In 2007, we abandoned the site and only then did the militants take it over."
UNRWA is now demanding an objective investigation...

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What can I say? $hit happens in a war zone.

But Israeli apologists who support killing innocent children have now been exposed. I'm not sure I'd trust you to babysit children.
 
earth_as_one
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

"Would you bomb a school?"

Yep...Then I'ld bomb it again or look for another one to lob some hot rounds on. But then again, I'm not naive enough to believe everything the Hamas media machine spins out.

But you are naive enough to believe everything the Israeli machine spits out.
 
earth_as_one
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Another source reporting Israel has admitted there were no militants in the compound:

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Israelis admit militants not in UN schoolRory McCarthy
The Guardian, Thursday 8 January 2009
Article history
The UN said last night that the Israeli military had privately admitted that the shelling of a UN school in Jabaliya which killed more than 40 Palestinians on Tuesday was in response to militant fire from outside, not inside, the UN compound.
After the attack, the Israeli military said an initial inquiry had shown that several mortar shells had been fired at Israeli forces "from within the Jabaliya school" and that Israeli forces had returned fire.
However, a UN spokesman yesterday said the military had admitted that this account was no longer accurate. "In private briefings with diplomats the Israeli army has admitted that the militant fire from Jabaliya did not come from within a UN compound but outside and therefore allegations that this fire came from inside our compound are completely baseless," said Chris Gunness, spokesman for UNWRA.
Last night, the Israel...

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Any more Israeli apologists want to post additional messages in support of killing innocent children?
 
Tyr
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#38
Quoting Colpy
...Israel is a democratic free state, backed by the USA, our closest ally....

I guess that's why we hit the ground running in Iraq. Um.. Sorry, we didn't get sucked into Iraq like the brits.

With allies like them, we're treading water in the deep end

Next contest in these Forums is to guess how many times Colpy has repeated this. Is it a chant or something?

It's a chant. If you say it over and over a million times, some people actually believe it
 
In Between Man
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#39
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

"The fact you would choose to support our natural enemies rather than our natural friends......well, why?"

You are one confused man Colpy, "our natural enemies". What was the title of the little handbook that came from? Was it How to Suck Zionist Murderers and Feel Good? The Zionists are every humans natural enemy, thier a disease of the human race.

Do you have any idea how hypocritical your being? You call down the term "natural ememies" (people who purposely target innocent civilians, and use their own innocent people as shields, like Hamas) and then you use the term yourself, stating the only real "natural enemy" are the jews.
 
lone wolf
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Quote: Originally Posted by Just the FactsView Post

It could be worse, he could be cutting and pasting five hundred word paragraphs that say the same thing over and over again. At least he's being concise and typing it himself. Gotta give vredit for that.

Repetition breeds repetition.

I once saw a guy on a park bench hugging his knees and rocking on his butt repeating over and over again: "I want a bag of Humpty Dumpty potato chips please." Which do you think is the truer statement?
 
talloola
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#41
I've heard far too many 'alike' stories in other wars. So, I'm not going to believe it.
I don't think Israel would intentionally bomb a school, in fact I know they wouldn't
if they thought it was full of kids.
My assumption is that, hamas deliberately fired the rockets from out side the school, then took off, knowing that israel will return the fire, and they probably
didn't even tell the kids inside, so, they are intentionally putting their own kids
in harms way, and actually know their own kids will be killed.
Israel is going to return the fire, any enemy would return the fire, I would return
the fire. People who hide behind, or shield themselves behind their own people are
responsible for their deaths and injuries.
They shouldn't be firing rockets or anything in the area of their civilians, it's only
done to bring in the cameras, and get it on the news, to bring criticizm to
israel.
They don't give a rats ass about their own people.
Most countries would do their utmost to shelter and protect their own citizens,
not hamas.
 
Just the Facts
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Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

Any more Israeli apologists want to post additional messages in support of killing innocent children?

Frankly I think it's people who claim firing rockets at innocent civilians is "symbolic" that are actually supporting the killing of innocent children.
 
Scott Free
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#43
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackleafView Post

That's because Hamas, a repugnant organisation who have, in their time, thrown homosexuals off cliffs,

If your going to be like that then you must know the Talmud gives approval for priests to marry and --.
 
earth_as_one
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Quote: Originally Posted by talloolaView Post

I've heard far too many 'alike' stories in other wars. So, I'm not going to believe it.
I don't think Israel would intentionally bomb a school, in fact I know they wouldn't
if they thought it was full of kids.
My assumption is that, hamas deliberately fired the rockets from out side the school, then took off, knowing that israel will return the fire, and they probably
didn't even tell the kids inside, so, they are intentionally putting their own kids
in harms way, and actually know their own kids will be killed.
Israel is going to return the fire, any enemy would return the fire, I would return
the fire. People who hide behind, or shield themselves behind their own people are
responsible for their deaths and injuries.
They shouldn't be firing rockets or anything in the area of their civilians, it's only
done to bring in the cameras, and get it on the news, to bring criticizm to
israel.
They don't give a rats ass about their own people.
Most countries would do their utmost to shelter and protect their own citizens,
not hamas.

The facts are:

Israel admitted they bombed a school full of children deliberately because they they were fired upon by militants in the school

Israel then tried to use old video footage to justify their claims and were caught in a lie.

Now they claim it was a mistake and they never had any evidence that militants were in the school.

No I don't believe Israel's PM gave an order to bomb the school. But front line troops are human and some of them probably have a major hate on for Palestinians. Is it beyond the realm of possibility that out of frustration/anger/revenge... a front line Israeli soldier took it upon themselves to liquidate a school full of children and then their senior officers tried to cover it up?

Before you answer that question, I suggest you check out what else the IDF has been up to lately:
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Just the Facts
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Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

No I don't believe Israel's PM gave an order to bomb the school. But front line troops are human and some of them probably have a major hate on for Palestinians. Is it beyond the realm of possibility that out of frustration/anger/revenge... a front line Israeli soldier took it upon themselves to liquidate a school full of children and then their senior officers tried to cover it up?

That's very possible. Funny thing about calling people sons of apes and pigs and firing rockets at them for the better part of a decade. Yeah, eventually they may "get a hate on".

If what you describe isn't what happened, it probably will soon.
 
Scott Free
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Quote: Originally Posted by Just the FactsView Post

That's very possible. Funny thing about calling people sons of apes and pigs and firing rockets at them for the better part of a decade. Yeah, eventually they may "get a hate on".

If what you describe isn't what happened, it probably will soon.

So what would you do if someone took your land, bulldozed your 1000 year old orchard and moved you onto a tiny plot of land? Throw flowers at their feet?
 
Zzarchov
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Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

Another source reporting Israel has admitted there were no militants in the compound:


Any more Israeli apologists want to post additional messages in support of killing innocent children?


Actually Israel hasn't said any such thing, did you read what you posted?

The UN, the victims, are claiming something, it hasn't been verified by Israel as of yet.

Im not saying it won't, but you need to learn to understand reading comprehension before spouting as truth.

When the alleged victim in a potential crime gives a version of events, that isn't given the basis of truth until proven in court of law.

Further more, the compound was used as a military installation in the past, quite recently, while still under UN control.

How do you explain that one? That automatically makes it a military target and the UN has violated international law and become a combatant in this conflict.
 
Zzarchov
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Quote: Originally Posted by Scott FreeView Post

So what would you do if someone took your land, bulldozed your 1000 year old orchard and moved you onto a tiny plot of land? Throw flowers at their feet?

Funny, I went down to Tyendinaga all the time and the people were friendly. I didn't worry about rockets falling on my head.
 
Zzarchov
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Quote: Originally Posted by earth_as_oneView Post

Now they claim it was a mistake and they never had any evidence that militants were in the school.

No, now the UN, the victims, are claiming it was a mistake. Israel has not said anything, though they may soon.

But your pretty dumb if you think Israel wants to blow up a school, if killing civilians was their goal, they would all be dead by now. All of them.

Even if Israel is the "Evil Israel" you envision their plan would be to crush any hopes of palestinian statehood while minimizing civilian casualties to keep the press at bay. This strategy of Target a school doesn't help them even if they are villains.
 
einmensch
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No not Jews, Germans, Palestinians --all two legged animals that behave abominably

Hospitals, schools, government building,transportation,utilities,residential are all targets to demoralize and completely destroy Gaza functioning. IDF officer emptied his gun into a 13 year old wounded Palestinian girl, officer orders a soldier to shoot a bound blinded folded Palestinian-they got medals-??
 
einmensch
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CDN Bear -Asshologist is approptiate for you. I'm glad that you know yourself.
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by einmenschView Post

No not Jews, Germans, Palestinians --all two legged animals that behave abominably

Hospitals, schools, government building,transportation,utilities,residential are all targets to demoralize and completely destroy Gaza functioning. IDF officer emptied his gun into a 13 year old wounded Palestinian girl, officer orders a soldier to shoot a bound blinded folded Palestinian-they got medals-??

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You said they are lower then animals.
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einmensch
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---Quote (Originally by einmensch)---
No not Jews, Germans, Palestinians --all two legged animals that behave abominably

Hospitals, schools, government building,transportation,utilities,residential are all targets to demoralize and completely destroy Gaza functioning. IDF officer emptied his gun into a 13 year old wounded Palestinian girl, officer orders a soldier to shoot a bound blinded folded Palestinian-they got medals-??
---End Quote---
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You said they are your mortal enemies....
The above is what I received in my e-mail--where did the mortal enemies come from? You made it up?
 
DurkaDurka
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Quote: Originally Posted by einmenschView Post

---Quote (Originally by einmensch)---
No not Jews, Germans, Palestinians --all two legged animals that behave abominably

Hospitals, schools, government building,transportation,utilities,residential are all targets to demoralize and completely destroy Gaza functioning. IDF officer emptied his gun into a 13 year old wounded Palestinian girl, officer orders a soldier to shoot a bound blinded folded Palestinian-they got medals-??
---End Quote---
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You said they are your mortal enemies....
The above is what I received in my e-mail--where did the mortal enemies come from? You made it up?

I misquoted you and fixed it. Do you have a reading problem?
 
earth_as_one
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Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain:

YouTube - Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain.

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1) Define the terms of debate, and you win the debate.
Early on, the Israelis work to define the context, the starting point, and the story line that will shape understanding of the war. In this instance, for example, they succeeded by constant repetition, in establishing the notion that the starting point of the conflict was December 19th, the end of the six-month ceasefire (which Israel described as "unilaterally ended by Hamas"). In doing so, they ignored, of course, their own early November violations, and their failure to honor their commitment in the ceasefire to open Gaza's borders. They also ignored their having reduced Gaza into a dependency, a process which began long before and continued after their withdrawal in 2005. Because they know that most Americans do not closely follow the conflict and are inclined to believe, as the line goes, "what they hear over and over again," this tactic of preemptive definition and repetition succeeds.
2) Recognize that stereotypes work.
Because, for generations, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been defined with positive cultural images of Israel and negative stereotypes of Palestinians, Israel's propagandists have an advantage here that is easy to exploit. Because the story has long been seen as "Israeli humanity confronting the Palestinian problem," media coverage of any conflict begins with how "the problem" is affecting the Israeli people. As Golda Meir once put...

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earth_as_one
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Why do they hate us?

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Robert Fisk: Why do they hate the West so much, we will ask
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Wednesday, 7 January 2009

AP
A child injured in the Israeli bombardment of a UN school yesterday is taken to Shifa hospital in Gaza City More pictures
So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in "purity of arms". But why should we be surprised?
Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead – almost all civilians, most of them children and women – in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996...

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earth_as_one
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Quote: Originally Posted by ZzarchovView Post

No, now the UN, the victims, are claiming it was a mistake. Israel has not said anything, though they may soon...

Israeli News Haaretz says this:

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UNRWA: Army admitted bombed school did not harbor militants
By -- and --

The United Nations is claiming Israeli military officers have admitted the tank firing on the UNRWA school in Gaza, in which dozens of Palestinians were killed, was an error.

In addition, UNRWA yesterday announced it will cease activities in the Strip due to the death of an UNRWA staffer in an IDF shelling during yesterday morning's humanitarian hiatus.

UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness told Haaretz yesterday that the army had conceded wrongdoing. "In briefings senior [Israel Defense Forces] officers conducted for foreign diplomats, they admitted the shelling to which IDF forces in Jabalya were responding did not originate from the school," Gunness said. "The IDF admitted in that briefing that the attack on the UN site was unintentional."

He noted that all the footage released by the IDF of militants firing from inside the school was from 2007 and not from the incident itself. "There are no up-to-date photos," Gunness said. "In 2007, we abandoned the site and only then did the militants take it over."

UNRWA is now demanding an objective investigation into whether the school shelling constituted a violation of international humanitarian law.

The UN reported yesterday that a Palestinian working for UNRWA was killed by an IDF tank shell while driving a well-marked aid truck at the Erez border crossing and the incident took place during the humanitarian hiatus in fighting slated to allow Gaza residents to acquire supplies.

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darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

"Would you bomb a school?"

Yep...Then I'ld bomb it again or look for another one to lob some hot rounds on. But then again, I'm not naive enough to believe everything the Hamas media machine spins out.

How you doing CB, we missed you, honest, well I did. Nice to know you're still sucking air.
 
darkbeaver
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Quote: Originally Posted by alleywayzalwayzView Post

Do you have any idea how hypocritical your being? You call down the term "natural ememies" (people who purposely target innocent civilians, and use their own innocent people as shields, like Hamas) and then you use the term yourself, stating the only real "natural enemy" are the jews.

You're being transparent gunboy. You don't have to be a Jew to be a Zionist ask Joe Biden, in fact most Jews run like hell from rascist Zionist pigs. In fact most humans instinctively run from evil pricks with F16s. I'v seen hundreds of pictures of IDF criminals useing young Palestinians as shields but not one of Palestinians doing the same. Zionists are my natural enemy, capitalists are my natural enemy and bankers are my natural enemy that's only natural, they're all scum, inhuman monsters that murder everybodys children whenever they feel like it, it's how they get to feel good about themselves. I do have room left on the list for a light thin one like you though.
 
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Quote: Originally Posted by CDNBearView Post

"Would you bomb a school?"

Yep...Then I'ld bomb it again or look for another one to lob some hot rounds on. But then again, I'm not naive enough to believe everything the Hamas media machine spins out.

But you are obviously naive enough to believe that Hamas has a media machine , I suppose they could still have a hand operated one maybe. But you are definately naive and thick like de brick.
 

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