Re: Would you bomb a school?
Jan 8th, 2009Yep...Then I'ld bomb it again or look for another one to lob some hot rounds on. But then again, I'm not naive enough to believe everything the Hamas media machine spins out.

Next contest in these Forums is to guess how many times Colpy has repeated this. Is it a chant or something?
IDF: Hamas Used UN School to Fire Mortars
by Tzvi Ben Gedalyahu
(IsraelNN.com) Hamas fired mortar shells from a United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) school in Jabalya before the IDF retaliated with aerial bombing that killed Hamas terrorists as well as children, according to an initial IDF investigation.
"Amongst the dead at the Jabalya school were Hamas terror operatives and a mortar battery cell who were firing on IDF forces in the area," the IDF said. "We face a very delicate situation where the Hamas is using the citizens of Gaza as a protective vest," according to IDF spokesman Brig. General Avi Benayahu.
The military said that it appeared "a number of mortar shells were fired at IDF forces from within the Jabalya school. In response to the incoming enemy fire, the forces returned mortar fire to the source." The IDF added that most probably a secondary explosion from explosives within the building added to the destruction.
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UNRWA: Army admitted bombed school did not harbor militants
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The United Nations is claiming Israeli military officers have admitted the tank firing on the UNRWA school in Gaza, in which dozens of Palestinians were killed, was an error.
In addition, UNRWA yesterday announced it will cease activities in the Strip due to the death of an UNRWA staffer in an IDF shelling during yesterday morning's humanitarian hiatus.
UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness told Haaretz yesterday that the army had conceded wrongdoing. "In briefings senior [Israel Defense Forces] officers conducted for foreign diplomats, they admitted the shelling to which IDF forces in Jabalya were responding did not originate from the school," Gunness said. "The IDF admitted in that briefing that the attack on the UN site was unintentional."
He noted that all the footage released by the IDF of militants firing from inside the school was from 2007 and not from the incident itself. "There are no up-to-date photos," Gunness said. "In 2007, we abandoned the site and only then did the militants take it over."
UNRWA is now demanding an objective investigation...
Israelis admit militants not in UN schoolRory McCarthy
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The Guardian, Thursday 8 January 2009
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The UN said last night that the Israeli military had privately admitted that the shelling of a UN school in Jabaliya which killed more than 40 Palestinians on Tuesday was in response to militant fire from outside, not inside, the UN compound.
After the attack, the Israeli military said an initial inquiry had shown that several mortar shells had been fired at Israeli forces "from within the Jabaliya school" and that Israeli forces had returned fire.
However, a UN spokesman yesterday said the military had admitted that this account was no longer accurate. "In private briefings with diplomats the Israeli army has admitted that the militant fire from Jabaliya did not come from within a UN compound but outside and therefore allegations that this fire came from inside our compound are completely baseless," said Chris Gunness, spokesman for UNWRA.
Last night, the Israel...

"The fact you would choose to support our natural enemies rather than our natural friends......well, why?"
You are one confused man Colpy, "our natural enemies". What was the title of the little handbook that came from? Was it How to Suck Zionist Murderers and Feel Good? The Zionists are every humans natural enemy, thier a disease of the human race.

I've heard far too many 'alike' stories in other wars. So, I'm not going to believe it.
I don't think Israel would intentionally bomb a school, in fact I know they wouldn't
if they thought it was full of kids.
My assumption is that, hamas deliberately fired the rockets from out side the school, then took off, knowing that israel will return the fire, and they probably
didn't even tell the kids inside, so, they are intentionally putting their own kids
in harms way, and actually know their own kids will be killed.
Israel is going to return the fire, any enemy would return the fire, I would return
the fire. People who hide behind, or shield themselves behind their own people are
responsible for their deaths and injuries.
They shouldn't be firing rockets or anything in the area of their civilians, it's only
done to bring in the cameras, and get it on the news, to bring criticizm to
israel.
They don't give a rats ass about their own people.
Most countries would do their utmost to shelter and protect their own citizens,
not hamas.

No I don't believe Israel's PM gave an order to bomb the school. But front line troops are human and some of them probably have a major hate on for Palestinians. Is it beyond the realm of possibility that out of frustration/anger/revenge... a front line Israeli soldier took it upon themselves to liquidate a school full of children and then their senior officers tried to cover it up?

Another source reporting Israel has admitted there were no militants in the compound:
Any more Israeli apologists want to post additional messages in support of killing innocent children?

Now they claim it was a mistake and they never had any evidence that militants were in the school.

No not Jews, Germans, Palestinians --all two legged animals that behave abominably
Hospitals, schools, government building,transportation,utilities,residential are all targets to demoralize and completely destroy Gaza functioning. IDF officer emptied his gun into a 13 year old wounded Palestinian girl, officer orders a soldier to shoot a bound blinded folded Palestinian-they got medals-??

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No not Jews, Germans, Palestinians --all two legged animals that behave abominably
Hospitals, schools, government building,transportation,utilities,residential are all targets to demoralize and completely destroy Gaza functioning. IDF officer emptied his gun into a 13 year old wounded Palestinian girl, officer orders a soldier to shoot a bound blinded folded Palestinian-they got medals-??
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You said they are your mortal enemies....
The above is what I received in my e-mail--where did the mortal enemies come from? You made it up?
1) Define the terms of debate, and you win the debate.
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Early on, the Israelis work to define the context, the starting point, and the story line that will shape understanding of the war. In this instance, for example, they succeeded by constant repetition, in establishing the notion that the starting point of the conflict was December 19th, the end of the six-month ceasefire (which Israel described as "unilaterally ended by Hamas"). In doing so, they ignored, of course, their own early November violations, and their failure to honor their commitment in the ceasefire to open Gaza's borders. They also ignored their having reduced Gaza into a dependency, a process which began long before and continued after their withdrawal in 2005. Because they know that most Americans do not closely follow the conflict and are inclined to believe, as the line goes, "what they hear over and over again," this tactic of preemptive definition and repetition succeeds.
2) Recognize that stereotypes work.
Because, for generations, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict has been defined with positive cultural images of Israel and negative stereotypes of Palestinians, Israel's propagandists have an advantage here that is easy to exploit. Because the story has long been seen as "Israeli humanity confronting the Palestinian problem," media coverage of any conflict begins with how "the problem" is affecting the Israeli people. As Golda Meir once put...
Robert Fisk: Why do they hate the West so much, we will ask
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Wednesday, 7 January 2009
AP
A child injured in the Israeli bombardment of a UN school yesterday is taken to Shifa hospital in Gaza CityMore pictures
So once again, Israel has opened the gates of hell to the Palestinians. Forty civilian refugees dead in a United Nations school, three more in another. Not bad for a night's work in Gaza by the army that believes in "purity of arms". But why should we be surprised?
Have we forgotten the 17,500 dead – almost all civilians, most of them children and women – in Israel's 1982 invasion of Lebanon; the 1,700 Palestinian civilian dead in the Sabra-Chatila massacre; the 1996...

No, now the UN, the victims, are claiming it was a mistake. Israel has not said anything, though they may soon...
UNRWA: Army admitted bombed school did not harbor militants
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The United Nations is claiming Israeli military officers have admitted the tank firing on the UNRWA school in Gaza, in which dozens of Palestinians were killed, was an error.
In addition, UNRWA yesterday announced it will cease activities in the Strip due to the death of an UNRWA staffer in an IDF shelling during yesterday morning's humanitarian hiatus.
UNRWA spokesman Chris Gunness told Haaretz yesterday that the army had conceded wrongdoing. "In briefings senior [Israel Defense Forces] officers conducted for foreign diplomats, they admitted the shelling to which IDF forces in Jabalya were responding did not originate from the school," Gunness said. "The IDF admitted in that briefing that the attack on the UN site was unintentional."
He noted that all the footage released by the IDF of militants firing from inside the school was from 2007 and not from the incident itself. "There are no up-to-date photos," Gunness said. "In 2007, we abandoned the site and only then did the militants take it over."
UNRWA is now demanding an objective investigation into whether the school shelling constituted a violation of international humanitarian law.
The UN reported yesterday that a Palestinian working for UNRWA was killed by an IDF tank shell while driving a well-marked aid truck at the Erez border crossing and the incident took place during the humanitarian hiatus in fighting slated to allow Gaza residents to acquire supplies.
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"Would you bomb a school?"
Yep...Then I'ld bomb it again or look for another one to lob some hot rounds on. But then again, I'm not naive enough to believe everything the Hamas media machine spins out.

Do you have any idea how hypocritical your being? You call down the term "natural ememies" (people who purposely target innocent civilians, and use their own innocent people as shields, like Hamas) and then you use the term yourself, stating the only real "natural enemy" are the jews.