Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds?

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In 2003, thousands of people in several countries (many of them members of the Stop the War Coalition) marched through the streets in protest against the invasion of Iraq by America, Britain, Australia, Italy, Spain and many other countries.

However, there has been a notable absence of anti-war protesters over Russia's invasion of Georgia.

"Why is this?", asks Richard Littlejohn.

Why haven't the Left got Georgia on their minds?

19th August 2008
Daily Mail


RICHARD LITTLEJOHN



A "Stop The War" demonstration in London 2003 by people opposed to the Iraq War. Strangely, the anti-war protesters have been very quiet over Russia's invasion of Georgia



Pity I was away last week. I must have missed the march through London against the Russian invasion of Georgia. What a magnificent sight it must have been - half a million protesters standing firm against tyranny and supporting freedom and democracy.

I'd have loved to have heard Red Ken denouncing the bloodthirsty gangster regime in Moscow, George Galloway comparing Vladimir Putin to Hitler and Tony Benn declaring it was all about oil.

What's that you say? There was no such rally? I suppose they must all have been too busy demonstrating against Chinese oppression in Tibet and demanding a boycott of the Beijing Olympics.



No-shows: Littlejohn wonders where the protesters are for the war in Georgia

Or perhaps not. Funny how the Not In My Name crowd always overlooks aggression by Communist or 'former' Communist regimes.

There's no such reticence when it comes to portraying George W. Bush as the new Hitler or daubing swastikas on the Israeli flag. Look at the protests against the wars in Iraq and Lebanon.

The same people who can't wait to burn the American flag in Trafalgar Square are only too happy to ignore Russian, Chinese and Iraqi genocide.

Where were all the marchers when the Russians were crushing Chechnya? Why so silent on Tibet? They must have been looking the other way when Saddam slaughtered the Kurds.

It hasn't been difficult to find apologists for the invasion of Georgia. We're told that the 'American-educated' Mikhail Saakashvili provoked the Russians beyond all reason. What did we expect encouraging the spread of democracy in former Soviet satellite states?

No wonder Moscow feels threatened when independent countries it once ruled by military might become members of the European Union and apply to join Nato.

Putting a Western missile defence system in Poland is like waving a red rag at a bull, the sophisticates say. Putin has no option but to retaliate.

I don't remember them demanding the withdrawal of Soviet nukes pointing at Western capitals from East Germany. Back then, the Guardianistas were all for one-sided disarmament on our part.

The Left has always been picky about their protests. While they rightly denounce white racism in South Africa, they stay silent on black racism in Zimbabwe.

They bang on about American cultural imperialism, but have nothing to say about Russian or Chinese military imperialism.

America is constantly denounced for its 'yuman rites' abuses, but you never hear a dicky bird about the denial of basic freedoms in China or throughout the Muslim world.

Europe's Leftists define themselves by their hatred of the U.S., yet cheerfully tolerate all kinds of tyranny elsewhere. They're against 'torture' at Guantanamo Bay, but take a relaxed view of Chinese and Russian death squads.

There are still plenty of 'comrades' in the Labour Party and the trades union movement who regret the day the Berlin Wall came tumbling down. They're only too willing to give succour to the enemies of freedom and democracy around the world.



Dominated: A Russian military convoy leaves a Georgian army base last week


So the official line is that the war in Iraq was nothing to do with Saddam boasting that he had weapons of mass destruction and defying a whole slew of United Nations resolutions to which he agreed after the liberation of Kuwait. It was all about oil.

Yet the invasion of Georgia was justified because Russia was 'provoked'. So we can assume that Putin never gave a moment's thought to Georgia's pipeline to the West?

What about the announcement last week by a Russian general that Poland was now a prime target for a nuclear strike because it had the audacity to agree to site a Nato defence shield within its borders?

I must have missed the CND press release on that one.

A new survey says that British attitudes towards the United States are governed by ignorance of the facts.

For instance, most people here and in Europe believe America sold Saddam most of his arsenal. The truth is that just 0.46 per cent of Iraq's weapons came from the U.S. Russia supplied 57 per cent, China 12 per cent and the cheese-eating surrender monkeys across the Channel were responsible for 13 per cent.

The U.S. is routinely portrayed as anti-Islamic. But in 11 out of 12 of the most recent conflicts between Muslims and non-Muslims, America has sided with the Muslims.

Other widespread myths such as Americans being denied medical care if they don't have health insurance are simply not true. Filthy, unregulated Russian and Chinese factories and power stations spew out poisonous gases, but America is branded the world's biggest polluter, even though it has done more to cut carbon emissions since the year 2000 than any other country.

The 'liberal' media has a vested interest in perpetuating such lies. The Left seems to be gripped with some kind of political penis envy of America, which can be assuaged only by sucking up to tyrants and dictators.

If we are entering a new Cold War, you can guarantee that the Left will once again be on the wrong side.

There's nothing new in this. Forty years ago this summer, the big demonstrations in London were against America's war against communist North Vietnam, not the Russian invasion of Czechoslovakia.

So no change there, then.

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lone wolf

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Maybe it's because it appears like Georgia (with or without intervention) has been stirring the pot. We had a poster all last week who seemed to mirror the sentiment rather well.
 

karrie

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Why would they risk being vocal and public against this man....




But not this man....?





Really, that's a question you need to ask?
 

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Georgia attacked South Ossetia with U.S. giving OK!

L.A. Times reported that Russia and its allied forces destroyed a key railway bridge linking war-weary Georgia's capital to the Black Sea coast, and blow up Georgian coast guard and other vessels, effectively severing all east-west transportation routes within the small country, the Georgian Foreign Ministry announced. The move came a day after the Georgian president signed a French-backed cease-fire proposal during a visit by U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice.

Russian soldiers occupying the central Georgian town of Gori also pushed forward 14 miles toward the capital, Tbilisi, setting up positions on the country's main east-west road 25 miles from the capital. Adjacent agricultural fields were set afire, apparently by Russian soldiers.

Global Research´s Michel Chossudovsky reported that during the night of August 7, coinciding with the opening ceremony of the Beijing Olympics, Georgia's president Saakashvili ordered an all-out military attack on Tskhinvali, the capital of South Ossetia.

The aerial bombardments and ground attacks were largely directed against civilian targets including residential areas, hospitals and the university. The provincial capital Tskhinvali was destroyed. The attacks resulted in some 1500 civilian deaths, according to both Russian and Western sources. "The air and artillery bombardment left the provincial capital without water, food, electricity and gas. Horrified civilians crawled out of the basements into the streets as fighting eased, looking for supplies." (AP, August 9, 2008). According to reports, some 34,000 people from South Ossetia have fled to Russia. (Deseret Morning News, Salt Lake City, August 10, 2008)

The importance and timing of this military operation must be carefully analyzed. It has far-reaching implications.

Georgia is an outpost of US and NATO forces, on the immediate border of the Russian Federation and within proximity of the Middle East Central Asian war theater. South Ossetia is also at the crossroads of strategic oil and gas pipeline routes.

NATO and the U.S.encouraged Georgia to attack according to Russian envoy to NATO Dmitry Rogozin. He sent an official note to representatives of all member countries in Brussels in connection with Georgia´s military actions against South Ossetia. He´s calling on them not to support Mikhail Saakashvili.

Russia has already begun consultations with the ambassadors of the NATO countries and with NATO military representatives. Rogozin said. "We will caution them against continuing to further support of Saakashvili."

Rogozin says Georgian aggression against South Ossetia is obvious. "It is an undisguised aggression accompanied by a mass propaganda war," he said.

Rogozin has linked Friday´s onslaught to the support given to Saakashvili at the recent NATO summit in Bucharest. At the meeting, Rogozin says, it "was hinted Georgia has prospects in NATO."

South Ossetia close to humanitarian disaster Russia´s Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov says he hopes Georgia´s Western partners take note of what has happened in South Ossetia and draw conclusions.

"It all confirms our numerous warnings addressed to the international community that it is necessary to pay attention to massive arms purchasing by Georgia during several years. Now we see how these arms and Georgian special troops who had been trained by foreign and U.S. specialists are used," he said.

They also accused the Georgian authorities of ignoring the UN Security Council´s call to observe a ceasefire during the Olympic Games in Beijing.

Meanwhile, Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili told CNN on Friday that Russia "is waging war against Georgia". Claims over 2,000 Georgians have been killed during the Russian invasion so far.

He said it was in the interests of the USA to help Georgia.

"It concerns not only Georgia -it concerns the U.S. and its values. We are a freedom-loving country which is being attacked," Saakashvili said.

Georgia has called on the U.S. and other countries to put pressure upon Russia "to put an end to a military aggression" in South Ossetia, Georgian ambassador to the U.S. Vasil Sikharulidze told the American media on Friday.

"We ask our friends, including the U.S., to be mediators and try persuading Russia to stop this military aggression and incursion into Georgia," Sikharulidze said.

Earlier U.S. president George W. Bush said the U.S. supports the territorial integrity of Georgia.

The President of the breakaway republic of South Ossetia Eduard Kokoity claims about 1,400 people have been killed by Georgian shelling.

"It is the third genocide of the Ossetian people from the side of Georgia, and Saakashvili is the main murderer," Kokoity said.

In connection with the escalating tensions in South Ossetia, Abkhazia´s armed forces have moved to the border with Georgia, the breakaway republic´s president Sergey Bagapsh said on Friday.

"Irrespective of the development of situation in South Ossetia, we won´t stop moving to the border with Georgia. Today they launch a military aggression against South Ossetia and tomorrow it could be Abkhazia. It cannot go on like that," Bagapsh said.

Meanwhile the EU has called for an immediate cessation of violence. It says it´s ´deeply concerned´ about the dramatic escalation in the conflict between Tbilisi and its separatist republic.

A spokesman for the EU Council said The Union´s high representative for the Common Foreign and Security Policy, Javier Solana, had spoken to Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili on Thursday. He said Solana urged Saakashvili to show restraint and to return to the negotiating table.

Javier Solana's spokesperson, Cristina Gallach, said on Friday that urgent action is needed to stop a further loss of lives.

"We are extremely concerned with the latest developments and we think that it is very regrettable that there has been loss of lives. The most urgent thing at the moment is to calm the situation down," she said.

The NATO Secretary General, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer has called on the authorities of Georgia and South Ossetia to stop the violence and to restore peaceful negotiations.

U.S. Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, Told the president today at the Crawford ranch that she also urged Russia to stop attacks on Georgia, respect its territorial integrity and withdraw its troops from Georgian territory. There is a ceasefire in effect but no one seems to be honoring it. Russia is promising to pull out of Georgia but as of this writing they have not. Russia has cut the country vividly in half and is controlling the roads and the harbors, hence controlling commerce including the flow of Georgia's oil pipeline. The EU is not expected to do anything either as Russia already controls forty percent of all of Europe´s natural gas and an even larger percentage of their oil.

http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/71565
 

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I suppose it's the same reason the right condem what Russia has done but aplauded the failed imperial march into Iraq and Israels bombing of Lebanon......hypocricy.
 

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hey I would describe myself as a left-of-centre type guy and frankly the utterly childish posturing that IS the OP of this thread is kinda hilarious.

IF you bother to look beyond right-wing rags it sure does look like there were several other hands pushing the buttons that made Georgia start this mess in the first place.

I seriously can't condemn Russia and support Georgia with all I understand

And anyone who has their head up their arse SO far that they can draw distinct paralells between this (Russia acting on what looked like a slaughter in a bordering state) with the illegal US-lead invasion of Iraq (a basically harmless country which was NOT in the process of attacking ANYONE and happens to be practically on the other side of the globe from the chief agressor/chicken little) is so stupid they should have their genetic material deleted from the global pool

DAMN are there some stupid, STUPID people on this planet, and that WAS directed at SEVERAL loudmouths on this site and across the internet. If most people are as stock-stupid as you I am glad our race will be extinct sometime soon so as the earth can have another chance to produce a more worthy species to occupy itself
 
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:cool:........Well, it's a real nice song, but, just so.............old, eh.

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just an ollllllllllllld ............unotherest.
 

Kreskin

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Where is the right? Why isn't it defending Russia for a pre-emptive strike? Hardly a peep.
 

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The real issue is, why isn't Georgia on the minds of the right wingers?

These geniuses said tyranny had to be stopped and that is why Bush was so perfectly within his right to intervene in Iraq. Recall that when I asked why they didn't feel that way about tyranny in Indonesia, they all clammed up.

Now we see that Putin is the devil incarnate. So why aren't those pro war right wing hypocrites demanding that Russia be invaded in order to stop him???
 

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The real issue is, why isn't Georgia on the minds of the right wingers?

These geniuses said tyranny had to be stopped and that is why Bush was so perfectly within his right to intervene in Iraq. Recall that when I asked why they didn't feel that way about tyranny in Indonesia, they all clammed up.

Now we see that Putin is the devil incarnate. So why aren't those pro war right wing hypocrites demanding that Russia be invaded in order to stop him???

There is that unpleasant reality called Global Thermonuclear War.........
 

Zzarchov

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Because Russia has the world largest nuclear arsenal and an Invasion is impossible?

Its up there with invading the sun to stop skin cancer.


If they US wants to be free of this kind of attack, it needs to stop being a democracy and invade a few European nations as colonies. Then give the greenlight for Russia to invade some other ones.
 

Kreskin

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It's like the game of risk. The Russians saw the last move into the ME and felt they needed some chips at the north end.
 

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Grozny (Chechen Republic of Ichkeria) destroyed by Russians:






Back then I challenged right wingers to demand the same type of interventionism they have always applauded. Naturally, they declined to reply or to take action.

Why? Because to right wingers, principles mean nothing.
 

Zzarchov

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Principles don't trump reality.

Otherwise I would claim you don't have any principles because why haven't you picked up a rifle or a sharpened stick and toppled the American regime yourself?

Simple, reality. Some things are beyond your means.
 

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"why haven't you picked up a rifle or a sharpened stick and toppled the American regime yourself?"

LOL! As usual, a complete non answer from an unprincipled character.



"In other word the U.S. and Russia are bullies. "


Correction: the governments are controlled by bullies.
 

Zzarchov

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"why haven't you picked up a rifle or a sharpened stick and toppled the American regime yourself?"

LOL! As usual, a complete non answer from an unprincipled character.



"In other word the U.S. and Russia are bullies. "


Correction: the governments are controlled by bullies.

that is a 100% spot answer I gave, you just dont have a good justification yourself.