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Sarkozy: primary school to teach memory of 11,000 children who died in the Holocaust
Yossi Lempkowicz
European Jewish Press
Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:53 EST








PARIS (EJP)---French President Nicolas Sarkozy has requested from his Education Minister that "every year starting from the upcoming 2008 school year, children in the last year of primary school should be asked to learn about one of the 11,000 French children who died in the Holocaust.
Sarkozy made the announcement Wednesday in his speech to 1,000 guests at the annual dinner of CRIF, the umbrella representative body of Jewish organizations in France.

French Prime Minister François Fillon and some 20 members of his government, including Education Minister Xavier Darcos, attended the dinner.

"Children in CM2 (the last year of primary school) will be taught the name and the existence of a child who died in the Shoah. Nothing is more intimate than the surname and first name of a person. Nothing is more moving, for a child, than the story of a child of his own age, who has the same games, the same joys and the same hopes as him," Sarkozy said.
Comment: What do French kids have to do with the Holocaust? What part did they play in it? ?
It's another way of conditioning people from a very young age, instil in them feelings of guilt for somethind they had no part in, so that they are ensured to never criticize Israel and the Jews, whatever they do. How can one put such a weight of "Antisemitic complex" on kids' shoulders? Ponerology in action.


He won a rare plaudit from the Socialist opposition over his plan. "Every time we can transmit our duty to remember, we have to do it," Socialist leader Francois Hollande told France-Info radio.

After his election last year, Sarkozy had called for a letter from a WWII Resistance hero, the 17-year-old communist Guy Moquet, to be read out in all French high schools as an example of a young man's resistance to oppression.

But that decision ran into a wall of protest from the political left, who accused Sarkozy of "stealing" a Communist icon.

In his speech to CRIF, the French president stressed the importance of educating young people in order to fight anti-Semitism and raise them so they will reject racism.

He stressed that fighting anti-Semitism "is the matter of the entire Republic and not only the matter of the Jewish community."

"Every time a Jew is frightened, it is the matter of the national community," he added.

 

[TAM255]

I can't believe there is a communist party in France.

I'm perplexe about this Sarkozy announce. If real, the Holocaust is a terrible thing but it is too much used as propaganda these day. Is it moral for the jewish to use such a thing for propaganda? If they use the Holocaust only as propaganda, they should feel a lot of shame.

 

[lone wolf]

And the Academy Award for World's longest continuous whine goes to....

For crying out loud, why impose Jewish hatred on a new generation - kids of kids - who had nothing to do with the crime? Once the last German who had an actual part in it, and the last Jew, Gypsy, homosexual, Russian, Slavic person or any other enemy of or waste to the Nazi state has passed on (for there were far more than Jews enslaved and murdered in the camps) let the damned holocost be dark history. Let the world have a future without being guilty for "poor little Israel" and her persecution complex. Let it be remembered as a hope it might not happen again. Let it not be poison. In not acknowledging other people who suffered the same genocide, they belittle the worth of non-Jewish lives and make a lie of what really happened. Israel is proving herself to be the most manipulative regime this world has ever known. There have got to be reasons why nobody has ever wanted the Jewish people as neighbours.

My apologies to all who may be offended by my blatant political incorrectness.

Woof!

 

[dancing-loon]

Hi, Beaver;

thanks for the article and your comment:

Comment: What do French kids have to do with the Holocaust? What part did they play in it? ?
It's another way of conditioning people from a very young age, instill in them feelings of guilt for something they had no part in, so that they are ensured to never criticize Israel and the Jews, whatever they do. How can one put such a weight of "Antisemitic complex" on kids' shoulders? Ponerology (?) in action.

First of all, Mr. Sarkozy comes from a Jewish family. Naturally, the Holocaust goes to his heart.

German children suffered as much, and way more than 11 000 got killed.. It is up to the Germans to do something similar to honor their victims.

Children are the innocent victims of any conflict, be it within the family or out on the world stage in horrific wars. I think what Mr. Sarkozy is trying to do is not only honoring deceased Jewish children, but raising awareness for all children who died because of the recklessness of grown-ups.

Thousands of German children got burned in the cities due to the relentless bombings from the allied forces - England and America!! Dresden, the well known city that got bombed senselessly ...http://www.whitecivilrights.com/the-allied-atrocity-at-dresden_274.html
Hamburg ... in just one night in 1943 between 30 000 to 45 000 people were killed, mostly women and children! And Kiel, close to where I come from, got reduced to rubble, as well as many other cities all over Germany.

The Russians suffered as much for sure. And all the smaller countries that got drawn into that inferno!!

This time I cannot agree with you, Beaver. I used to feel different at one time, but in this case I can't follow.

P.S. I couldn't get your first link to work. I have to admit my computer acts erratically lately!:roll:

 

[Scott Free]

I can't believe there is a communist party in France.

Why? In a real democracy there should be all interests represented. If some politics aren't allowed on the table then you don't really have a democracy. There is a Marxist/Leninist party in BC which is a very healthy thing for democracy here.

I'm perplexe about this Sarkozy announce. If real, the Holocaust is a terrible thing but it is too much used as propaganda these day. Is it moral for the jewish to use such a thing for propaganda? If they use the Holocaust only as propaganda, they should feel a lot of shame.

I agree. Giving one particular event a title like "the Holocaust" is extremely damaging in historical and perceptive terms. The fact is that the Jewish holocaust is just one of many that have occurred in human history (and not even the worst). It isn't "the Holocaust" but rather, a holocaust - one of many. That isn't to take anything away from the terribleness of such a calamity but instead to give the importance back to all the calamities that have befallen mankind. By singling one out it weakens the significance of the others; where the victims can be overlooked because they weren't Jewish - say like in the Iraqi holocaust going on right now.

If the idea is to prevent future holocausts then the term, meaning and historical significance needs to be restored, otherwise the proper framework for preventing future such calamities isn't present. That is to say that not just Jews can be the victim of a holocaust and the perpetrator needn't be a fascist dictator like Hitler; if this were a social norm then outrageous like Iraq, Palestine, Rwanda etc.. wouldn't be allowed for one second. Unfortunately, though, because there is an artificial distinction, one to such an extent that a new term "ethnic cleansing" is required, the subject of mans inhumanity to man is off the table and each event must be framed in its own significance. In my opinion that is a terrible way to deal with this problem.