Russia ready to use Nuclear Weapons

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Russia Commander: Russia ready to use nuclear weapons if threatened


Global Research, January 19, 2008
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Russia's top military commander said on Saturday that the country is prepared to use its nuclear weapons to defend itself and allies in the event of a severe external threat.
The Chief of the Russian General Staff, Gen. Yury Baluyevsky, told a conference at the Academy of Military Sciences in Moscow: "We do not intend to attack anyone, but consider it necessary that all our partners clearly understand, and that no one has any doubts, that the Armed Forces will be used to protect the sovereignty and territorial integrity of Russia and its allies, including preventative action, and including the use of nuclear weapons."
Baluyevsky's comments come amid growing tensions between Russia and NATO over the alliance's expansion into the former Eastern Bloc, the United States' plans to deploy missile defense elements in Poland and the Czech Republic, and Moscow's increasingly assertive military stance.
Russia resumed strategic bomber patrol flights over the Pacific, Atlantic, and Arctic oceans last August, and on December 12, 2007 imposed a unilateral moratorium on the Conventional Forces in Europe Treaty, a key arms reduction pact.
Baluyevsky said that in order to protect Russia's interests, military force "can and must be used" when "all other means prove ineffective."
Programs to develop Russia's military must be closely linked to national fiscal planning, "taking into account the state's economic resources," he said.


S-400 air defense systems to be deployed in central Russia


Global Research, January 19, 2008
RIA Novosti - 2008-01-14

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Russia's advanced S-400 air defense missile systems will be initially deployed in central regions of the country, the Air Force commander said on Monday.
The S-400 Triumf (SA-21 Growler) air defense system is expected to form the new cornerstone of Russia's theater air and missile defenses up to 2020 or even 2025.
"The S-400 air defense systems will be primarily deployed in central Russia, and only after that in other regions of the country, when more systems become available," Col. Gen. Alexander Zelin said.
Russia successfully conducted last year live firing tests of the S-400 air defense complex at the Kapustin Yar firing range in south Russia's Astrakhan Region, and deployed a battalion equipped with the new system to protect the airspace around Moscow.
The S-400 is designed to intercept and destroy airborne targets at a distance of up to 400 kilometers (250 miles), twice the range of the U.S. MIM-104 Patriot, and 2.5 times that of the S-300PMU-2.
The system is believed to have high capability to destroy stealth aircraft, cruise missiles, and ballistic missiles, with an effective range of up to 3,500 kilometers (2,200 miles) and a speed of up to 4.8 kilometers (3 miles) per second.
A regular S-400 battalion comprises at least eight launchers with 32 missiles and a mobile command post, according to various sources.
 

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Ya, like that will scare the world. The world has been there, done that, managed just fine.
 

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So, who are the allies Russia is talking about it will defend? Iran is one I know.
Is this all some sabre rattling or could there be some serious plan or intention behind it?

Again I wish Canada was neutral!!
 

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Oh they're just saying this so that when they do launch their nukes, even in a preventative action as they say, that it won't be their fault and don't look at them as the bad guys.
 

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So ... what's changed since 1948?

Woof!

The technology, the sophistication of that technology, and the absolute resolve of the western alliance to widen the war on terrorism to include any and all states not willing to bent to the unipolar world order.And above all the necessity of the western elite to eliminate the competition.
 

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So, who are the allies Russia is talking about it will defend? Iran is one I know.
Is this all some sabre rattling or could there be some serious plan or intention behind it?

Again I wish Canada was neutral!!

Google SCO Secuity and Cooperation Organization and you'll see the allies. No one will be allowed to remain neutral, remember "your either with them or against them" from the mouths of the pigs themselves.
 

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Oh they're just saying this so that when they do launch their nukes, even in a preventative action as they say, that it won't be their fault and don't look at them as the bad guys.

No, I don't think so. Something serious is revving up. Read this article here:
http://newsblaze.com/story/20080119122251payn.nb/newsblaze/OPINIONS/Opinions.html

"Crossfire War - Israel Successfully Tests Two-Stage Ballistic Missile-Iran-Syria"

You have an idea what that means? Read further in that article...

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Washington is attempting to use Israel as a ballistic missile base against Iran. Debka reported Israel successfully tested a propulsion system for a two-stage missile at its Palmahim base and the missile landed in the same area of the Mediterranean as a Russian tactical missile test. It is no coincidence this test firing took place right after the Russian navy began its 71 days maneuvers in the Mediterranean and it just so happened Israel Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni was recently in Moscow meeting Russia Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. This is also right after U. S. President George W. Bush's visit to the region and while he was in Israel Bush introduced his military liaison Air Force Lieutenant-General William Fraser. General Fraser no doubt monitored both Russia's and Israel's launching. This is obviously Allied coordination but the problem of course is they may assume Tehran will sit back and watch Israel become a launching pad without making any effort to prevent it. Iran does not intend to allow Israel to become that in an atmosphere of peace, any missiles Israel launches will have to be done under fire."
 

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So ... big deal. Both sides - rather, all three sides - can hit the Earth. With nukes, you don't have to be precise - and none of them are stupid enough to waste them on terrorists - provided Uncle Sam reins in Israel. What happened to that new non-nuke superbomb Russia advertised a few months back?

Woof!
 

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Their is no such thing as a neutral country in a nuclear war.

Everyone is either devestated by secondary weapons, or targetted so they can't provide aid to get a non-neutral country back on their feet.

Its mutually ASSURED destruction, not "Mutually most-likely destroyed , unless some neutral country you border sends humanitarian aid and you rebuild"
 

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Their is no such thing as a neutral country in a nuclear war.
Why not? We forinstance are fine along all borders except to the south. IF someone would drop a nuclear bomb on the US, they would most likely drop it on Washington or New York. BUT since the US has their own defense shields and warning systems, nobody would even get close.

So, why can Canada not stay neutral? Like Switzerland?
 

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Funny. I don't see Russia as as big a threat to world peace as the United States. WW3 will likely be started by the U.S. or Israel.
 

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Why not? We forinstance are fine along all borders except to the south. IF someone would drop a nuclear bomb on the US, they would most likely drop it on Washington or New York. BUT since the US has their own defense shields and warning systems, nobody would even get close.

So, why can Canada not stay neutral? Like Switzerland?

...um ... have you ever heard of wind?

Woof!
 
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Their is no such thing as a neutral country in a nuclear war.

Everyone is either devestated by secondary weapons, or targetted so they can't provide aid to get a non-neutral country back on their feet.

Its mutually ASSURED destruction, not "Mutually most-likely destroyed , unless some neutral country you border sends humanitarian aid and you rebuild"

...um ... have you ever heard of wind?

Woof!

Bingo. 'Hitting the button' is a declaration of war upon the entire planet - upon all species. A war with no winners = everyone loses. With the huge amount of nuclear overkill capabilities we have already amassed collectively on this planet, it seems the height of insanity to hear that any country anywhere is still entertaining this as any kind of viable solution to anything. I'll never understand the mindset that perpetuates this self-annihilation pissing contest.
 

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Bingo. 'Hitting the button' is a declaration of war upon the entire planet - upon all species. A war with no winners = everyone loses. With the huge amount of nuclear overkill capabilities we have already amassed collectively on this planet, it seems the height of insanity to hear that any country anywhere is still entertaining this as any kind of viable solution to anything. I'll never understand the mindset that perpetuates this self-annihilation pissing contest.

In the final analysis, it is a psychopathic pissing contest. Global nuclear war is a guaranteed trip back to the iron age or worse for those lucky or unlucky enough to survive. Technology would come back eventually ........Would we just do the same stupid things over again, or would we be smarter the second time around? Maybe we are already on the second time around....???
 

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Bingo. 'Hitting the button' is a declaration of war upon the entire planet - upon all species. A war with no winners = everyone loses. With the huge amount of nuclear overkill capabilities we have already amassed collectively on this planet, it seems the height of insanity to hear that any country anywhere is still entertaining this as any kind of viable solution to anything. I'll never understand the mindset that perpetuates this self-annihilation pissing contest.

Mutually assured destruction is not quite correct. While 5 of 6 billion may die 1 billion may live.If you think, for a bit, like the ultra elite you come to different conclusions. That bunker for seeds in the Arctic Ocean and the prolifration of GM crops should afford anyone a more realistic understanding of the near future. In other words the murder of most of the population of the planet represents absolutely no deterent to the ruling clique. Only thier survival matters, I think we'll find that has been well provided for in advance of any disaster they instigate.
Contingent on the sucess or failure of the so called war on terrorism is thier future, but wholesale planned reduction of the human population is already underway with the introduction of GM crops, another conspiracy released on the planet by the same power elite.
 

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Honestly, DB... the so-called elite can have the stinkin' planet if they take it that far. The projected one million survivors imo is highly optimistic - and even if that many were able to survive I don't see whatever governing system they have planned actually working to keep a viable and flourishing society alive. I for one am not so attached to my physical presence here to want to live in whatever ravaged environment and/or society that might be left by time they're done with it.

Juan's right - it 's the ultimate expression of psychopathy. :angryfire: :-(