The Victorian Holocaust: how come no one knows about it?

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The Turks haven't learned the British way of denying past atrocities It is not illegal to discuss the millions who were killed under our empire. So why do so few people know about them?

George Monbiot
Tuesday December 27, 2005
The Guardian


In reading reports of the trial of the Turkish novelist Orhan Pamuk, you are struck by two things. The first, of course, is the anachronistic brutality of the country's laws. Mr Pamuk, like scores of other writers and journalists, is being prosecuted for "denigrating Turkishness", which means that he dared to mention the Armenian genocide in the first world war and the killing of the Kurds in the past decade. The second is its staggering, blithering stupidity. If there is one course of action that could be calculated to turn these massacres into live issues, it is the trial of the country's foremost novelist for mentioning them.


As it prepares for accession, the Turkish government will discover that the other members of the EU have found a more effective means of suppression. Without legal coercion, without the use of baying mobs to drive writers from their homes, we have developed an almost infinite capacity to forget our own atrocities.Atrocities? Which atrocities? When a Turkish writer uses that word, everyone in Turkey knows what he is talking about, even if they deny it vehemently. But most British people will stare at you blankly. So let me give you two examples, both of which are as well documented as the Armenian genocide.


In his book Late Victorian Holocausts, published in 2001, Mike Davis tells the story of famines that killed between 12 and 29 million Indians. These people were, he demonstrates, murdered by British state policy. When an El Niño drought destituted the farmers of the Deccan plateau in 1876 there was a net surplus of rice and wheat in India. But the viceroy, Lord Lytton, insisted that nothing should prevent its export to England. In 1877 and 1878, at the height of the famine, grain merchants exported a record 6.4m hundredweight of wheat. As the peasants began to starve, officials were ordered "to discourage relief works in every possible way". The Anti-Charitable Contributions Act of 1877 prohibited "at the pain of imprisonment private relief donations that potentially interfered with the market fixing of grain prices". The only relief permitted in most districts was hard labour, from which anyone in an advanced state of starvation was turned away. In the labour camps, the workers were given less food than inmates of Buchenwald. In 1877, monthly mortality in the camps equated to an annual death rate of 94%.
As millions died, the imperial government launched "a militarised campaign to collect the tax arrears accumulated during the drought". The money, which ruined those who might otherwise have survived the famine, was used by Lytton to fund his war in Afghanistan. Even in places that had produced a crop surplus, the government's export policies, like Stalin's in Ukraine, manufactured hunger. In the north-western provinces, Oud and the Punjab, which had brought in record harvests in the preceeding three years, at least 1.25m died.


Three recent books - Britain's Gulag by Caroline Elkins, Histories of the Hanged by David Anderson, and Web of Deceit by Mark Curtis - show how white settlers and British troops suppressed the Mau Mau revolt in Kenya in the 1950s. Thrown off their best land and deprived of political rights, the Kikuyu started to organise - some of them violently - against colonial rule. The British responded by driving up to 320,000 of them into concentration camps. Most of the remainder - more than a million - were held in "enclosed villages". Prisoners were questioned with the help of "slicing off ears, boring holes in eardrums, flogging until death, pouring paraffin over suspects who were then set alight, and burning eardrums with lit cigarettes". British soldiers used a "metal castrating instrument" to cut off testicles and fingers. "By the time I cut his balls off," one settler boasted, "he had no ears, and his eyeball, the right one, I think, was hanging out of its socket." The soldiers were told they could shoot anyone they liked "provided they were black". Elkins's evidence suggests that more than 100,000 Kikuyu were either killed or died of disease and starvation in the camps. David Anderson documents the hanging of 1,090 suspected rebels: far more than the French executed in Algeria. Thousands more were summarily executed by soldiers, who claimed they had "failed to halt" when challenged.


These are just two examples of at least 20 such atrocities overseen and organised by the British government or British colonial settlers; they include, for example, the Tasmanian genocide, the use of collective punishment in Malaya, the bombing of villages in Oman, the dirty war in North Yemen, the evacuation of Diego Garcia. Some of them might trigger a vague, brainstem memory in a few thousand readers, but most people would have no idea what I'm talking about. Max Hastings, on the opposite page, laments our "relative lack of interest" in Stalin and Mao's crimes. But at least we are aware that they happened.


In the Express we can read the historian Andrew Roberts arguing that for "the vast majority of its half-millennium-long history, the British empire was an exemplary force for good ... the British gave up their empire largely without bloodshed, after having tried to educate their successor governments in the ways of democracy and representative institutions" (presumably by locking up their future leaders). In the Sunday Telegraph, he insists that "the British empire delivered astonishing growth rates, at least in those places fortunate enough to be coloured pink on the globe". (Compare this to Mike Davis's central finding, that "there was no increase in India's per capita income from 1757 to 1947", or to Prasannan Parthasarathi's demonstration that "South Indian labourers had higher earnings than their British counterparts in the 18th century and lived lives of greater financial security.") In the Daily Telegraph, John Keegan asserts that "the empire became in its last years highly benevolent and moralistic". The Victorians "set out to bring civilisation and good government to their colonies and to leave when they were no longer welcome. In almost every country, once coloured red on the map, they stuck to their resolve".


There is one, rightly sacred Holocaust in European history. All the others can be denied, ignored, or belittled. As Mark Curtis points out, the dominant system of thought in Britain "promotes one key concept that underpins everything else - the idea of Britain's basic benevolence ... Criticism of foreign policies is certainly possible, and normal, but within narrow limits which show 'exceptions' to, or 'mistakes' in, promoting the rule of basic benevolence". This idea, I fear, is the true "sense of British cultural identity" whose alleged loss Max laments today. No judge or censor is required to enforce it. The men who own the papers simply commission the stories they want to read.


Turkey's accession to the European Union, now jeopardised by the trial of Orhan Pamuk, requires not that it comes to terms with its atrocities; only that it permits its writers to rage impotently against them. If the government wants the genocide of the Armenians to be forgotten, it should drop its censorship laws and let people say what they want. It needs only allow Richard Desmond and the Barclay brothers to buy up the country's newspapers, and the past will never trouble it again.
 

Andem

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Interesting article. I thought I'd post this because I'm quite annoyed about the accusations of anti-semitism (and the perceived meaning of that word). Everyone is so quick to jump at calling someone a racist when anti-semitism is involved and then comes the talk about the holocaust, but it's not universal in our education system to learn about the genocide committed by the Russians, the Brits, the Spaniards and possibly any other world power that has existed.

So a question from my personal experience: Why isn't it memorials being built every year for the Ukrainians who were murdered or for the atrocities committed during the Boar wars?
 
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And the Bitish introduction of the free market to India and the sub continent which was an act of genocide far greater in the end than the Holocaust of ww2, no one want's to admit to being human or inhumane. And an act of systemic rascism of apalling neglect and creulty.
 

Andem

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What about the genocide being committed by the Jewish state its self?

Upon further reading of the term genocide:

Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.

Canada has committed genocide by the enactment of the multicultural model we've adopted. Before we started a multicultural society, Canada was segregated into two distinct societies -- Namely French and English Canada.

Why is it that only certain groups receive the attention and empathy? It seems the only holocaust or genocide anybody ever mentions was one of a few documented during the rough time-period of the second world war.
 

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Andem, "Why isn't it memorials being built every year for the Ukrainians who were murdered or for the atrocities committed during the Boar wars?"

That's a lot of talk as a prelude to one short and simple racist evasion. The Jews do not deny genocide. Why do you resent the recognition of the Holocaust? Why don't you build your memorials or lament them without taxing the Jews? Just because there is one world consciousness of one incident of genocide and not a dozen does not mean there should be none. You protest a success.

Why do you protest an outstanding success?

Why are there not memorials to the genocide committed against my own ancestors on British soil? It was a long time ago. Another day, another atrocity. But who could murder like the National Socialists? Had the world ever seen the like of them? It never will again. And that's the thing about this particular holocaust. It happened in the west, by the west, in the shadow of the Christian church and it might have been us, not the Germans that did it. This is way too close for comfort. It is not just the German's shame, but the shame belongs to us all.
 

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Canada is an active participant in the Palestinian Genocide which we are invited to lay at the feet of Jews that has no little merit, however in the end the Isrealis are only the tools of capitalism, which has no discrimination save the weight of coin and speed of accumulation.
 

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Why do you protest an outstanding success?

Why are there not memorials to the genocide committed against my own ancestors on British soil? It was a long time ago. Another day, another atrocity. But who could murder like the National Socialists? Had the world ever seen the like of them? It never will again. And that's the thing about this particular holocaust. It happened in the west, by the west, in the shadow of the Christian church and it might have been us, not the Germans that did it. This is way too close for comfort. It is not just the German's shame, but the shame belongs to us all.

I'm certainly not protesting memorials being built for those who have been lost to man's inhumanity. I'm simply questioning why it is only one group who receives the attention while others are forgotten into history.

I don't believe nazis are the only ones who have committed unspeakable atrocities against their opponents or simply against people they don't necessarily like very much. Infact during the same time Hitler reigned terror over Western Europe, I believe equally astounding things were happening in Eastern Europe.
 

Andem

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Actually a follow-up to my previous post: I do protest memorials as a tool of guilt to enable other genocides to happen, specifically German military technology used in the Middle East to oppress its inhabitants.

Memorials are exactly that.. not a political tool.
 

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The shame definitely does belong on all of us. The ideas used in World War 2 were nothing new, just the scale was new.

As for the why, that is an excellent question. Like why is Darfur a genocide but not the Congo?
 

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Interesting thread.

I have to agree that some atrocties get more attention than others. VietNam is one that seen about four million VietNamese, Laotion, and Cambodians die from pointless bombing that achieved nothing from a military standpoint but has to qualify as one of the worst atrocities on record. The recent Rwandan genocide and the Ukrainian genocide in the 1930s were certainly in the same order of magnitude as the events in WW2.
 
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Andem, memorials to enable genocide? You're losing it. Better lie down.

Andem, "I'm simply questioning why it is only one group who receives the attention while others are forgotten into history."

Well, thous dost protest too much. When a simple question is buried in political/racist nonsense it's not a simple question anymore. And you claim that the racism is not yours, but is merely second hand or co-incidental or imagined. I could not bring myself to fail to sympathize with the Jews. I could not rush to be against them. But those like you who find it easy, let me call such only collaborators rather than racist, so as not to offer needless offense. Vichy French, not Nazi.
 

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Andem, memorials to enable genocide? You're losing it. Better lie down.

I guess you're just not education on how much the German state has paid in guilt reparations not only to the state of Israel, but both directly and indirectly to the armed forces thereof.

The Israeli state and armed forces as been committing atrocities and outright genocide of the Palestinians for decades.

I'm losing it? The two points above are undisputed facts.
 

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Andem, "The Israeli state and armed forces as been committing atrocities and outright genocide of the Palestinians for decades."

Finally, we have a blank confession as to what this thread is really all about. This forum is full of racists and they're not hard to out. It's the Jews again, it's not about the Ukrainians after all, or the oversights of history, or anything else. It's the Jews and their Israel.

Israel is not going away. If ever it was a mistake, it no longer matters. We must have sympathy for the Palistinian savages - losers writ large. But not at the expense of the Jews, who are civilized. It's simple really.
 

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Andem, "The Israeli state and armed forces as been committing atrocities and outright genocide of the Palestinians for decades."

Finally, we have a blank confession as to what this thread is really all about. This forum is full of racists and they're not hard to out. It's the Jews again, it's not about the Ukrainians after all, or the oversights of history, or anything else. It's the Jews and their Israel.

Israel is not going away. If ever it was a mistake, it no longer matters. We must have sympathy for the Palistinian savages - losers writ large. But not at the expense of the Jews, who are civilized. It's simple really.

Typical attempt to confuse anti-genocide with rascism the one is a tool of the other. Rascism allowed the Nazis to conduct genocide. Rascism allowed Britian to conduct genocide, rascism allows Isreal and the US to conduct genocide. And Canada is guilty in act and association and in it's failure to object to all of it. Canada shares in the guilt, heavily, we ignor the democraticly elected Hamas government of the Palestinians in the face of international law in concert with the western block and Nato mercenarys armys. Some day soon some Canadians must face the law for that.
 

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The thing is that Isreal is not even committing genocide. The only difference is they have superior firepower than the Palestinians. If Isreal gets it's lip bloodied it turns around and breaks the Palestinian's nose so to speak. That is what gets people in an uproar. Oh that and they are Jewish.
 

darkbeaver

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The thing is that Isreal is not even committing genocide. The only difference is they have superior firepower than the Palestinians. If Isreal gets it's lip bloodied it turns around and breaks the Palestinian's nose so to speak. That is what gets people in an uproar. Oh that and they are Jewish.

Ok Smack, but Canada is helping commit genocide against the Palestinians and should be held responsible. How's that?