did anyone read Rushdies verses/whats the deal
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The religion of perpetual outrage does not suffer criticism lightly.
And besides, it's Friday, (call to prayer happy hour) and the masses need to be kept occupied, why not direct the ire at the west ? Keeps thier minds off their own despotic problems....
Oh and those insensitve Brits knighted him.
He wrote a rather dull and boring book called The Satanic Verses that could be interpreted as being mildly critical of Islam, Iran's political and religious authorities (same people) decided he should be killed for it, and issued an order--a fatwa it's called--to that effect. The fatwa was rescinded a long time ago, but there are people in the Muslim world who think any criticism of Islam, however mild it may be, deserves death, and by extension anything positive said or written about a critic of Islam is an insult to the faith, because of course Islam is absolutely all true and correct and divinely inspired, and is thus beyond any possible criticism. It's about where Christianity was a few centuries ago, before the Reformation and the Enlightenment.
Islame might be a better word for it.
Mildly critical of Islam? Would you describe writing a book which portrayed Jesus's birth as a result of gangbanging a cheap hooker and his life as a thug and con artist to be mildly critical of Christianity? I imagine the Vatican wouldn't be pleased, but I doubt the Pope would call for the author's death.
I agree Satanic Verses was boring. I've read excerpts and its dull. If it wasn't for the book portraying the Prophet Mohammed (Islam's equivalent of Christianity's Jesus) as a pimp and his wives as prostitutes, no one would have read it. Satanic Verses was deliberately insulting and offensive to Muslims. Rushie who is a secular Muslim knew his book would provoke outrage/controversy and probably hoped that would increase sales. But I doubt he expected the Shiite equivalent of the Pope (Ayatollah) to issue a religious decree (fatwa) calling for his death. As a result, all Shiites are supposed to kill Rushdie if they get a chance or face eternal damnation. As noted, the fatwa was rescinded since and the controversy died.
Giving Rushdie a knightinghood for writing a boring but insulting book seems like a deliberate act to further insult and offend Muslims, create new controversy and generate more sales of a book which is not worth reading.
I agree Satanic Verses was boring. I've read excerpts and its dull. If it wasn't for the book portraying the Prophet Mohammed (Islam's equivalent of Christianity's Jesus) as a pimp and his wives as prostitutes, no one would have read it. Satanic Verses was deliberately insulting and offensive to Muslims. Rushie who is a secular Muslim knew his book would provoke outrage/controversy and probably hoped that would increase sales. But I doubt he expected the Shiite equivalent of the Pope (Ayatollah) to issue a religious decree (fatwa) calling for his death. As a result, all Shiites are supposed to kill Rushdie if they get a chance or face eternal damnation. As noted, the fatwa was rescinded since and the controversy died.
Giving Rushdie a knightinghood for writing a boring but insulting book seems like a deliberate act to further insult and offend Muslims, create new controversy and generate more sales of a book which is not worth reading.
oki doki...thanks, I get the picture.
Unfreaking believable!!!!!
Hey she is handing out knighthoods to the likes of mick jagger.... Now i'm a huge fan, but Jagger, wasn't he the bad boy junkie poet rock star live life as large as you can have more woman than anyone else.
Of course I lived to see keith Richards in a freakin disny movie...
Both our huge with me..my favourite all time rock band.I'm not dissing them at all...but i mean these are the rolling stones,look inside the album jacket of sticky fingers for chrissakes...hell look at the title.
didn't you have to actually kill moslems in some crusade to actually get the damn thing? Is the old broad slippin?
Unfreaking believable!!!!!
Hey she is handing out knighthoods to the likes of mick jagger.... Now i'm a huge fan, but Jagger, wasn't he the bad boy junkie poet rock star live life as large as you can have more woman than anyone else.
Of course I lived to see keith Richards in a freakin disny movie...
Both our huge with me..my favourite all time rock band.I'm not dissing them at all...but i mean these are the rolling stones,look inside the album jacket of sticky fingers for chrissakes...hell look at the title.
didn't you have to actually kill moslems in some crusade to actually get the damn thing? Is the old broad slippin?
A knighthood is based on contribution to others. The Rolling Stones qualify.
Which they did and largescale contributions to worthy causes became something the Stones do.
Rolling Stones SARS Concert Photo Gallery 1
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I have no idea of what Rushdie did to deserve this honor. It shouild take more than writing a crappy book.
So can anyone tell me what Rushdie did to deserve knighthood?
Which they did and largescale contributions to worthy causes became something the Stones do.
Rolling Stones SARS Concert Photo Gallery 1
http://www.canoe.ca/SarsStockGallery/home.html
I have no idea of what Rushdie did to deserve this honor. It shouild take more than writing a crappy book.
So can anyone tell me what Rushdie did to deserve knighthood?
Well he has won the booker prize for literature in 1981, which also won in 1993 the best booker award of the previous 25 years.
[nicked from the wiki]
Awards that Rushdie has won include the following:
- Booker Prize for Fiction
- James Tait Black Memorial Prize (Fiction)
- Arts Council Writers' Award
- English-Speaking Union Award
- Booker of Bookers or the best novel among the Booker Prize winners for Fiction
- Prix du Meilleur Livre Etranger
- Whitbread Novel Award (twice)
- Writers' Guild of Great Britain Award for Children's Fiction
- Kurt Tucholsky Prize (Sweden)
- Prix Colette (Switzerland)
- State Prize for Literature (Austria)
- Author of the Year (British Book Awards)
- Author of the Year (Germany)
- Mantua Prize (Italy)
- Premio Grinzane Cavour (Italy)
- Hutch Crossword Fiction Prize (India)
- India Abroad Lifetime Achievement Award (USA)
- Outstanding Lifetime Achievement in Cultural Humanism (Harvard University)
- Aristeion Prize (European Union)
So the rolling stones got busted for drugs, did a couple of punishment community service gigs and your basing their suitability for knighthoods on that..What next a nighthood for a shoplifter who has to spend the next four weeks painting his/her local community centre..8O
He wrote a rather dull and boring book called The Satanic Verses...
The book was a great cure for insomnia - utter drivel. Total pukifaction. I managed to get through about 2 chapters or so but couldn't stay awake to finish it.
Forget Sominex, read Satanic Verses instead. What puke.
The book was a great cure for insomnia - utter drivel. Total pukifaction. I managed to get through about 2 chapters or so but couldn't stay awake to finish it.
Forget Sominex, read Satanic Verses instead. What puke.
Charity work might have been at first a punishment for a non-violent crime. But since then the Rolling Stones have been involved in pretty much every major rock charity event since then. They have raised millions for poverty, hunger, disease...
So why all the fuss? You'd think the Imams would be laughing...."look, they knighted a guy for discovering the cure to insomnia!"
:-?
```So why all the fuss? You'd think the Imams would be laughing...."look, they knighted a guy for discovering the cure to insomnia!" ```
That's precisely what I was thinking! LOL!!!
That's precisely what I was thinking! LOL!!!
So now anti-culture and the inability to read a difficult book is the new cool?
I've read Rushdie's books, and the knighthood is as much for forbearance and bravery as it is for his body of work.
He deliberately provoked Islam because he believed that Islam needed provoking and literature was the best way to do it.
This is a smart community - but this thread makes us look like illiterate mouth breathers.
BTW - knighthoods are stupid and anachronistic.
Pangloss
I've read Rushdie's books, and the knighthood is as much for forbearance and bravery as it is for his body of work.
He deliberately provoked Islam because he believed that Islam needed provoking and literature was the best way to do it.
This is a smart community - but this thread makes us look like illiterate mouth breathers.
BTW - knighthoods are stupid and anachronistic.
Pangloss
If it was a work of fiction, as The Satanic Verses clearly is, then I wouldn't consider it as particularly insulting to Christianity, I'd probably find it amusing if it were well written, which, Pangloss notwithstanding, I don't think The Satanic Verses is. If it was offered as an attempt at historical revisionism, then yes, it would be insulting, unless the researchers could prove the claims. Getting excited about a work of fiction like that is dumb at best. Some people take themselves way too seriously. What do you think the sales of the book would have been if the Ayatollahs had just ignored it?
Dexter:
I love the word "notwithstanding." It's kind of like a sentence unto itself and it sounds so smart, especially when it usually means "please don't pay attention to this." Not that I can say what you meant. I won't put words in someone else's mouth.
Unlike you. . .
Where exactly did I write anything saying what I personally thought of Rushdie's writing?
Pangloss
I love the word "notwithstanding." It's kind of like a sentence unto itself and it sounds so smart, especially when it usually means "please don't pay attention to this." Not that I can say what you meant. I won't put words in someone else's mouth.
Unlike you. . .
Where exactly did I write anything saying what I personally thought of Rushdie's writing?
Pangloss