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April 20th, 2007, 08:28 PM

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April 20th, 2007, 09:10 PM

It amazes me the length peoeple will go for gold... nazis prying gold fillings from dead jews mouths strikes me as the most brazen.
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April 20th, 2007, 09:47 PM

Quoting s_lone
But why would anyone even care about gold in a real state of crisis? Wouldn't we just trade truly energetic stuff like food, water, gas etc.?
For the reasons why it was considered money in the first place

1. It is rare
2. It is durable
3. It is easy to exchange

How easy is it to exchange gas or water?
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April 20th, 2007, 09:54 PM

gold's not really that rare. francium is rare.
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April 20th, 2007, 10:05 PM

It can't be so rare that nobody knows what the hell it is!
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April 20th, 2007, 10:07 PM

lol they'd know what it was if it was the root of all currency. And you wouldn't need fort knox to hold 15g of it, which is all there is. :0)
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April 20th, 2007, 10:38 PM

Gold is great, silver is better. But don't bet the farm. I think most crisis mongers likely have a stash of bullion silver coins somewhere. They'll do wonders in any future economic scare where the value of paper dollars is in question. The traditional ratio of gold to silver has broken down and you'll regularly hear analysts gloat that any return to form should appreciably benefit the white metal. But I've heard that for quite awhile too. The traditional silver to gold ratio seems to vary between 10 and 16:1. So you can see how skewed present valuation are. There are lots of ways to invest in metals and there an equal number of ways to lose your shirt. But most advisers would think you should have some core position. Hmmmmmm, the Dow is breaking new ground, the markets look hot again. It must make the goldbugs shake their well-shook heads.
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April 20th, 2007, 10:46 PM

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What is the true value of gold?
What practical use does it have that justifies it being a central focus of economy?
It is extremely malleable, electrically and thermally conductive, it alloys easily, it colors glass nicely, it reflects, etc. Those qualities are fairly practical, IMO.
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April 21st, 2007, 03:21 AM

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For the reasons why it was considered money in the first place

1. It is rare
2. It is durable
3. It is easy to exchange

How easy is it to exchange gas or water?
So here I am in 2023... I'm a father of 2 children and I just lost my job. In fact, everyone where I live pretty much lost their jobs because where I live is in the city, where valuable natural ressources don't tend to grow. The world has become so scarce that natural ressources are the ONLY bargaining factor and gold is judged upon its practical value, not its symbolical value. What will be the value of gold and the value of all money then?
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April 21st, 2007, 03:38 AM

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I just learned how to use the "multi" button!
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please tell me. i've been wondering for months
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Cool, I just learned as well.

yah, what Kreskin said
lol. Me too, all of the above...
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April 21st, 2007, 07:54 AM

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Quoting tamarin
The traditional silver to gold ratio seems to vary between 10 and 16:1. So you can see how skewed present valuation are.
I always thought the ratio ranged from 40:1 to 60:1.

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So here I am in 2023... I'm a father of 2 children and I just lost my job. In fact, everyone where I live pretty much lost their jobs because where I live is in the city, where valuable natural ressources don't tend to grow. The world has become so scarce that natural ressources are the ONLY bargaining factor and gold is judged upon its practical value, not its symbolical value. What will be the value of gold and the value of all money then?
That's a very long and involved discussion on the nature of money.

However, for the Readers Digest version, "money" is a store of value, a medium of exchange and a unit of account. It is also whatever people believe it is. Different societies have used different objects for money - gold, silver, paper money, animals, cigarettes, clam shells, even giant shells at the bottom of the ocean that cannot be accessed!

Generally money is of symbolic value. What is a "dollar" exactly? It is an intangible representation of what people accept as value, nothing more. But people use dollars or any other currency because it facilitates economic transactions. It has value because people believe it has value. If people stopped having faith in the currency, its value would collapse.
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April 21st, 2007, 08:27 AM

Toro, if present ratio trends persist you'll be proven right. I do get a kick out of the gold firms that rush advertisments to press and tv every time there's a fresh spike in the metals.
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April 21st, 2007, 10:20 AM

Welcome to the business of financial services.
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April 21st, 2007, 11:03 AM

Yes, and they're still using the same tired line they used 30 years ago: "There may not be a better time than this to invest in..."
It always makes me smirk.
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