Attackz on Chavez a Travesty

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These Orchestrated attacks on Chávez are a travesty

A social revolution is taking place in Venezuela. No wonder the neocons and their friends are determined to discredit it

By George Galloway

02/28/07 "
The Guardian" The chilling Oliver Stone film Salvador got a rare airing on television this week. It was a reminder of a time when, for those on the left, little victories were increasingly dwarfed by big defeats - not least in a Latin America which became synonymous with death squads and juntas. How different things seem now. Yesterday US Vice-President Dick Cheney came uncomfortably close to the reality of Afghan resistance to foreign occupation. On the same day Venezuelan President Hugo Chávez delivered a mightier blow to the neocon dream of US domination, announcing an extension of public ownership of his country's oil fields - the richest outside the Middle East.

Much more is at stake than London mayor Ken Livingstone's welcome oil deal with Chávez, which will see London bus fares halved while Venezuela gets expertise from city hall and a bridgehead in the capital of the US's viceroy in Europe. Washington's biggest oil supplier is now firmly in the grip of a social revolution. This month I watched with Chávez as thousands of soldiers, French and British tanks, Russian helicopters and brand new Mirage and Sukhoi fighter bombers passed by: the soldiers chanting "patria, socialismo o muerte" - enough to make any US president blanch. Chávez answered the salute with the words: "the Bolivarian revolution is a peaceful revolution but it is not unarmed".
The music played throughout the event was the hymn of Salvador Allende's 1970s Chilean government, declaring that the people united will never be defeated. But Chávez's socialism is a good deal more red than Allende's - and its enemies seem no less determined than those who bathed Chile in blood in 1973. Despite complete control of Venezuela's national assembly - the opposition boycotted the last elections after being defeated in seven electoral tests in a row - Chávez has been given enabling powers for 18 months to ensure he can pilot his reforms through entrenched opposition from the civil service, big business, the previously all-powerful oligarchy, their vast media interests and their friends in Washington. Among those friends we must include our own prime minister, who only last year declared Venezuela to be in breach of international democratic norms - though when I pressed him in parliament he was unable to list them.

The atmosphere in Caracas is fervid. The vast shanty towns draping the hillside around the cosmopolitan centre bustle with workers' cooperatives, trade union meetings, marches and debates. The $18bn fund for social welfare set up by Chávez is already bearing fruit. Education, food distribution and primary healthcare programmes now cover the majority for the first time. Queues form outside medical centres filled with thousands of Cuban doctors dispensing care to a population whose health was of no value to those who sat atop Venezuela's immense wealth in the past.

Chávez, who regularly pops over to Havana to check on the health of Fidel Castro, is at the centre of a new Latin America which is determined to be nobody's backyard. Reliable US allies are now limited to death squad ridden Colombia, Peru and Mexico - and latterly then only by recourse to rigged elections. But Chávez's international ambitions are not confined to the Americas. He became a hero in the Arab world after withdrawing his ambassador from Tel Aviv in protest at the bombardment of Lebanon by US-armed Israeli forces last summer, and has pledged privately to halt oil exports to the US in the event of aggression against Iran. This all represents a challenge to US power which, if Bush was not sunk in the morass of Iraq, would be at the top of his action list.

Not that his supporters are marking time. The mendacious propaganda that Chávez is a dictator and human rights abuser is being spread with increasing urgency by the Atlanticist right and their fellow travellers, such as leftie-turned-neocon Nick Cohen who told his London newspaper audience last week that Livingstone's relationship with Chávez was making him think of voting Tory. Chávez's decision not to renew an expired licence for an opposition television station involved in a coup attempt - there are plenty of others - is being portrayed as the beginning of the death of democracy. It's as if Country Life's diatribes against the fox hunting ban were taken as irrefutable proof of totalitarianism in Britain.

The so-called "dictator" Chávez is nothing of the kind. He has won election after election, validating his radical course. Still the fear of a coup - such as in 2002 when Chávez was removed and imprisoned for three days before millions descended to the presidential palace to reinstate him - is everywhere. One Englishman abroad who welcomed the 2002 coup as the "overthrow of a demagogue" was the foreign office minister Denis MacShane - a humiliating correction had to be issued following Chávez's restoration. That tale underscores the importance of the links being forged between revolutionary Caracas and anti-war London. Chávez is well aware that the people were defeated in Chile, the fascists allowed to pass in Republican Spain. Just as in Venezuela, the defence against counter-revolution lies with the poor and the working people who are shaping the world they want; so too must all those internationally who want to see this ferment reach its potential rally to Venezuela's side.

George Galloway is the Respect MP for Bethnal Green and Bow and presents a radio show three times a week on TalkSport
www.Georgegalloway.com

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Chavez is educating the children, He has brought in doctors and a majority the people are finally getting health care. His food distribution program is ensuring that people are no longer starving. What is wrong with this picture? Some think that the biggest thing wrong is that foreign multi-national companies are not sucking the blood out of the country while running a puppet government that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer.
I have a neighbor who spent a month and a half in Venezuela. He claims it is obvious the people love this guy.
I think the next month or two will be critical. I don't know if the Americans will try another coup or just try to assassinate him. Almost without exception, leaders who nationalize their oil industry, come to a bad end. In the eyes of the large corporations, Chavez is setting a dangerous precedent. What if all countries with oil or mineral wealth threw the blood suckers out?
 

darkbeaver

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This socialist revival represents the end of uncle sam, it's quite a bit more troubling to the ultra capitalists than the Muslims. Islamism is not nearly as virulent as runaway socialism. And this can and will infect yankees in the homeland. :wave:
 

Sparrow

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There is nothing bad about this guy, he is doing good for his people and is that not supposed to be the first priority of a President. The ones attacking him are doing it because they are afraid of loosing MONEY. I think that these countries should just butt out.
 

CDNBear

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Ya he's just great!!!

Didn't the nazi party start like this...

CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez was granted free rein Wednesday to accelerate changes in broad areas of society by presidential decree — a move critics said propels Venezuela toward dictatorship.
Convening in a downtown plaza in a session that resembled a political rally, lawmakers unanimously gave Chavez sweeping powers to legislate by decree and impose his radical vision of a more egalitarian socialist state.
“Long live the sovereign people! Long live President Hugo Chavez! Long live socialism!” said National Assembly President Cilia Flores as she proclaimed the “enabling law” approved by a show of hands. “Fatherland, socialism or death! We will prevail!”

The law gives Chavez, who is beginning a fresh six-year term, more power than he has ever had in eight years as president, and he plans to use it during the next 18 months to transform broad areas of public life, from the economy and the oil industry in particular, to “social matters” and the very structure of the state.
Move toward authoritarianism
His critics call it a radical lurch toward authoritarianism by a leader with unchecked power — similar to how Fidel Castro monopolized leadership years ago in Cuba.
“If you have all the power, why do you need more power?” said Luis Gonzalez, a high school teacher who paused to watch in the plaza, calling it a “media show” intended to give legitimacy to a repugnant move. “We’re headed toward a dictatorship, disguised as a democracy.”
Hundreds of Chavez supporters wearing ruling-party red gathered in the plaza, waving signs reading “Socialism is democracy,” as lawmakers read out passages of the law giving the president special powers to transform 11 areas of Venezuelan law.
“The people of Venezuela, not just the National Assembly, are giving this enabling power to the president of the republic,” congresswoman Iris Varela told the crowd.
President Bush said Wednesday that he’s “concerned about the Venezuelan people.”
“I am concerned about the undermining of democratic institutions. And we’re working to help prevent that from happening,” Bush said in an interview with Fox News.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16903238/



Chavez to shut down opposition TV

The move has been called a grave violation of freedom of expression


Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has said he will not renew the licence for the country's second largest TV channel which he says expires in March 2007.
In an address to troops, Mr Chavez said he would not tolerate media outlets working towards a coup against him.
Radio Caracas Television, which is aligned with the opposition, supported a strike against Mr Chavez in 2003.
But the TV's head said there must be some mistake as its licence was not up for renewal in the near future.
Marcel Granier also vowed to fight against the president's plans in Venezuela's courts and on the international stage.
The BBC's Greg Morsbach in Caracas says Mr Chavez has repeatedly threatened to take the TV off the air but has never given a date.
There will be no new operating licence for this coupist TV channel - the measure has been drafted so go turn off the equipment



Hugo Chavez


The move could help silence some of his critics in the media who have been a thorn in his side for several years, he says.
Mr Chavez, who was returned to power by a wide margin on 3 December, said Mr Granier was mistaken in believing "that concession is eternal".
"It runs out in March. So it's better that you go and prepare your suitcase and look around for what you're going to do in March," he said during a televised speech to soldiers at a military academy in Caracas.
"There will be no new operating licence for this coupist TV channel called RCTV. The operating licence is over... So go and turn off the equipment," Mr Chavez said.
'Violation of freedom'
Mr Chavez said the channel was "at the service of coups against the people, against the nation, against national independence, against the dignity of the republic".
The channel is among a number of private TV and radio networks that in recent years have strongly criticized Mr Chavez' government and favoured the opposition.
Many media outlets, including RCTV, supported a bungled coup in 2002 and a devastating general strike in 2003 that failed to unseat the president. The press freedom campaign group, Reporters Without Borders, said the proposed move would be a grave violation of freedom of expression in Venezuela. RCTV is one of the country's oldest channels and began broadcasting in 1953.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6215815.stm

Nope, nothing scary about that.

HILE HUGO!!!
 

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Maybe Canada should become a vassal of Venuzuela.

He is making himself to be exactly like Hitler... and like Hitler he will fall.
 

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Chavez is educating the children, He has brought in doctors and a majority the people are finally getting health care. His food distribution program is ensuring that people are no longer starving. What is wrong with this picture? Some think that the biggest thing wrong is that foreign multi-national companies are not sucking the blood out of the country while running a puppet government that makes the rich richer and the poor poorer.
I have a neighbor who spent a month and a half in Venezuela. He claims it is obvious the people love this guy.
I think the next month or two will be critical. I don't know if the Americans will try another coup or just try to assassinate him. Almost without exception, leaders who nationalize their oil industry, come to a bad end. In the eyes of the large corporations, Chavez is setting a dangerous precedent. What if all countries with oil or mineral wealth threw the blood suckers out?

Laughing and shaking my head. Such paranoia.
 

Avro

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Laughing and shaking my head. Such paranoia.


Why is it paranoia? The Yanks have done it before they can do it again.

Plus Juan is right about states that nationlize their oil.

Saddam's troubles with the U.S. began when he tried something similar, a few bent truths later and he's gone.
 

Sparrow

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Ya he's just great!!!

Didn't the nazi party start like this...

CARACAS, Venezuela - President Hugo Chavez was granted free rein Wednesday to accelerate changes in broad areas of society by presidential decree — a move critics said propels Venezuela toward dictatorship.
Convening in a downtown plaza in a session that resembled a political rally, lawmakers unanimously gave Chavez sweeping powers to legislate by decree and impose his radical vision of a more egalitarian socialist state.
“Long live the sovereign people! Long live President Hugo Chavez! Long live socialism!” said National Assembly President Cilia Flores as she proclaimed the “enabling law” approved by a show of hands. “Fatherland, socialism or death! We will prevail!”

The law gives Chavez, who is beginning a fresh six-year term, more power than he has ever had in eight years as president, and he plans to use it during the next 18 months to transform broad areas of public life, from the economy and the oil industry in particular, to “social matters” and the very structure of the state.
Move toward authoritarianism
His critics call it a radical lurch toward authoritarianism by a leader with unchecked power — similar to how Fidel Castro monopolized leadership years ago in Cuba.
“If you have all the power, why do you need more power?” said Luis Gonzalez, a high school teacher who paused to watch in the plaza, calling it a “media show” intended to give legitimacy to a repugnant move. “We’re headed toward a dictatorship, disguised as a democracy.”
Hundreds of Chavez supporters wearing ruling-party red gathered in the plaza, waving signs reading “Socialism is democracy,” as lawmakers read out passages of the law giving the president special powers to transform 11 areas of Venezuelan law.
“The people of Venezuela, not just the National Assembly, are giving this enabling power to the president of the republic,” congresswoman Iris Varela told the crowd.
President Bush said Wednesday that he’s “concerned about the Venezuelan people.”
“I am concerned about the undermining of democratic institutions. And we’re working to help prevent that from happening,” Bush said in an interview with Fox News.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16903238/



Chavez to shut down opposition TV

The move has been called a grave violation of freedom of expression


Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez has said he will not renew the licence for the country's second largest TV channel which he says expires in March 2007.
In an address to troops, Mr Chavez said he would not tolerate media outlets working towards a coup against him.
Radio Caracas Television, which is aligned with the opposition, supported a strike against Mr Chavez in 2003.
But the TV's head said there must be some mistake as its licence was not up for renewal in the near future.
Marcel Granier also vowed to fight against the president's plans in Venezuela's courts and on the international stage.
The BBC's Greg Morsbach in Caracas says Mr Chavez has repeatedly threatened to take the TV off the air but has never given a date.
There will be no new operating licence for this coupist TV channel - the measure has been drafted so go turn off the equipment



Hugo Chavez


The move could help silence some of his critics in the media who have been a thorn in his side for several years, he says.
Mr Chavez, who was returned to power by a wide margin on 3 December, said Mr Granier was mistaken in believing "that concession is eternal".
"It runs out in March. So it's better that you go and prepare your suitcase and look around for what you're going to do in March," he said during a televised speech to soldiers at a military academy in Caracas.
"There will be no new operating licence for this coupist TV channel called RCTV. The operating licence is over... So go and turn off the equipment," Mr Chavez said.
'Violation of freedom'
Mr Chavez said the channel was "at the service of coups against the people, against the nation, against national independence, against the dignity of the republic".
The channel is among a number of private TV and radio networks that in recent years have strongly criticized Mr Chavez' government and favoured the opposition.
Many media outlets, including RCTV, supported a bungled coup in 2002 and a devastating general strike in 2003 that failed to unseat the president. The press freedom campaign group, Reporters Without Borders, said the proposed move would be a grave violation of freedom of expression in Venezuela. RCTV is one of the country's oldest channels and began broadcasting in 1953.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6215815.stm

Nope, nothing scary about that.

HILE HUGO!!!

Thanks for you post, you really changed my mind because I definetly have no love lost for the socialists. I have not really heard too much about Chavez and in the first post he didn't sound not too bad. But after reading yours his color has changed. I will do some research on him and get more information for my own satisfaction.

Just a little note: Have we lost our "quick reply" for good?
 

#juan

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It seems to still be there. There is a row six of buttons on the bottom right of the post you want to reply to. Click on "quick".
 

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Hugo is cosying up to Fidel. I don't think that is really a good thing for the citizens of Venezuela. I have a friend over in hugoworld right now who will be back on monday. I bet he has an opinion or two on this matter as his wife is Venezuelan. I know there is more than a few on this forum who believe cuba is a socialist paradise,but when was the last time you've heard of mothers cobbling together innertubes and sending thier children adrift into the ocean and hoping they land safely on the shores of cuba?
 

Sparrow

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When I posted my msge there were not there. However they are there now. Maybe it was my computer playing tricks on me. Thanks
 

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My signature was there and then it was gone. I'm getting scared.


AmericanconspiracyGeorgeBushstealingCanadianforumbuttonsBushisEvilHitlermark2!!


BAM! Got there first beaver!! HAH



Anyhoo, I like the fact that Chvez started out doing everything he could to better his people and screw over outside influences, but now that he's starting to muzzle the opposition and take away personal liberties he's lost my respect. He's a despot, even if he was a despot with a good start. Shame.