Pain Ray

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Pain Ray - US torture weapons used against civilians

Maurizio Torrealta and Sigfrido Ranucci

Translated by Mary Rizzo​

“Star Wars in Iraq” is a new investigative report by Maurizio Torrealta and Sigfrido Ranucci. The document takes off from the disturbing eyewitness report from Majid Al Ghezali, first violinist of the Baghdad Orchestra, who had witnessed the conquest of the airport by the US Armed Forces. Al Ghezali tells that he had seen the victims of the battle with their bodies shrunken and to have heard talk about the use of laser weapons.

Even the chief surgeon of the General Hospital of Hilla, Saad al Falluji, speaks of an episode involving the horrible mutilations that had occurred to the passengers of a bus that had been hit at an American checkpoint with a mysterious and silent weapon. The Iraqi physician was shocked at the absence of bullets or bullet wounds upon the dead and wounded. The journalists of Rai News 24 had requested information from the Pentagon about the possible use of lethal laser weapons, on their effects and on their usage in war zones, but as of today, they still have not obtained any replies. Taking off precisely from these eyewitness accounts, the Rai News 24 investigation analyses the current use of a new typology of weapons, destined to signal the epochal passage from “kinetic” weapons to those run by energy.

Laser devices mounted on the Humvees have already been tested in Afghanistan and Iraq, officially to set off landmines and hidden explosive devices. In the inquiry there is the detailed description of a weapon considered to be “non-lethal”: the “Pain Ray”. The characteristics of this weapon, that uses an invisible ray that provokes an extremely intense painful sensation, but does not cause death, has brought about the preoccupation of the organisations that work in human rights defence and see in this new weapon the risk of an instrument of gradual and legal torture. It is an alarm that is also motivated by the fact that the studies on the effects of these weapons on the human body are still covered by military secret.

SEE THE FILM http://www.rainews24.it/ran24/inchieste/guerre_stellari_iraq.asp
in English, Italian or Arabic.
READ THE TEXT OF THE FILM in .rtf

An excerpt:
Retired Colonel John B. Alexander The Active Denial System is a Millimetre Wave System, operates at about 93 GHz. It sends out a beam for a very long distance, and what’s important about it is that when it hits the skin it penetrates only a very slight, for a few millimetres under the skin and it it’s the pain receptors and causes, you know, people to be adverse to the pain.

It hurts, it hurts a lot.

The tests that had been run they were to go for 3 seconds, each individual was given a kill switch and nobody made 3 seconds. The answer to the pain is extremely rapid, and you don’t have to do it very long, I mean, it gets your attention instantly.

To understand the consequences this new weapon could have for human rights we went to the Empire State Building in Manhattan, home of the offices of Human Rights Watch, one of the most important human rights organizations.

Marc Garlasco We can see the effects of a gun very easily and understand them, but when you cannot see the effect of a weapon because it is not visible and because the science is not very well understood because technology is so new, then it becomes a grieve concern that enrages the states for potential human rights violations and abuses. And that is something that we have to understand about the Active Denial System, that it exists to create pain and is very different in most other non-lethal weapons where the desire is either to immobilize someone or make it so that they cannot walk in the area. With the Active Denial System the main desire is pain, and we have to be very careful because in international law is very clear that devices created solely for the creation of pain can eventually lead to torture and are therefore illegal, and it’s very critical that the United States does a careful legal review of the Active Denial System and is open with their findings. To date they have not been open.

William Arkin Some people say “ooh acoustic weapons, or High Power Microwave weapons, the Active Denial System, we can use it for crowd control…”

What crowd control? What does that mean?

It pretends that anyone in the crowd is eighteen years old, and male and in good health, and we’re just going to shoot these microwaves or shoot these acoustic weapons on this crowd, and it’s going to be carefully calibrated at a power level, in the intensity and at a range to affect all these eighteen years old men in the crowd.

Well, what crowd is made up of just eighteen years old men?

Look at the Intifada, look at any riot in Iraq today: children, women, pregnant women, old people, and so the effect… the effect that you would need in order to have an impact on a healthy male, you target, would be too much for a child or a pregnant woman or an old person.

Marc Garlasco There’s been a lot of discussion also about the potential for eye damage. They have done some tests on the skin to show that is not harmful, but where is the eye test? And there are concerns raised by scientists about potential harm to the eyes. And we also have concerns about the effects to children, to the infirm, to the elderly… Why are they not producing the data? Why are they not sharing it with us?

As regards the use of the pain ray in the field of war, the military review Defence Industry Daily reports that three Sheriff vehicles were ordered at a price of about 31 million dollars, and that approval has been requested for another 14 vehicles by Brigadier General James Haggin, chief of staff of the multinational forces in Iraq.

Retired Colonel John B. Alexander
In my view the next global conflict has already began and we don’t have an understanding of what that conflict looks like. Because of the issues of terrorism for instance the adversaries are going to be I think mixed in with civilian populations. We need weapons that allow us to be able to sort, minimize what they call “collateral casualties”. I think the battlefields are going to be in urban areas.

http://peacepalestine.blogspot.com/2006/05/pain-ray-us-torture-weapons-used.html

Introduction translated from Italian by Mary Rizzo, member of Tlaxcala (www.tlaxcala.es) network of translators for linguistic diversity. This translation is on Copyleft.
 

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A nice weapon for controlling people even at home, BIG BROTHER. I agree with defending our homelands but it can get to the point where were become as bad as the enemy. A prime environment for escalation on both sides.
 

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i'd like to know how anyone could make a weapon like that. lasers are generally not powerful enough to do much harm to people who can move faster than a snail, and a "pain ray" sounds a little implausible to me. I think this might be a little scaremongery
 

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i'd like to know how anyone could make a weapon like that. lasers are generally not powerful enough to do much harm to people who can move faster than a snail, and a "pain ray" sounds a little implausible to me. I think this might be a little scaremongery

You're a bit behind on your laser homework, lasers are routinely used to cut through plate steel nowadays, new weapons are as a matter of fact tested in convienient conflict zones. This is not the only article coming out of Iraq about exotic weaponry, hospitals in Iraq and Afghanistan report shrapnal type wounds without shrapnal and bodys burned from the inside out as well as hundreds of birth defects and cancer from DU.And in any case this does not mention lasers.The talk shows in the states ran interviews with military personel about ten days ago showcaseing the new pain delivering weapons they were scaled down versions of the vehicle mounted devices.:wave:
 

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a laser for cutting plate steel would NEED a tank to carry it. as for the "pain ray" i won't believe it until it has a plausible explanation. i'm not saying it didnt happen, I just think that stories like this from war zones should be taken with a bucket load of salt. propaganda and downright BS are rife in this kind of situation.
 

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a laser for cutting plate steel would NEED a tank to carry it. as for the "pain ray" i won't believe it until it has a plausible explanation. i'm not saying it didnt happen, I just think that stories like this from war zones should be taken with a bucket load of salt. propaganda and downright BS are rife in this kind of situation.

Why?
 

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Active Denial System (ADS)


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The Active Denial System (ADS) developed by Raytheon for the US Air Force Research Labs is a non lethal, counter-personnel directed energy non-lethal weapon which can be used against human targets at distances beyond the effective range of small arms. ADS projects a focused millimeter wave energy beam which induces intolerable heating sensation on an adversary's skin and cause that individual to be repelled without injury. ADS could be used to stop, deter and repel hostile elements without applying of lethal force.​

ADS was developed by Raytheon company for the US Air Force Research Laboratory (ARL) and DOD Joint Non-Lethal Weapons Directorate. The program is currently in Advanced Concept Technology Demonstrator (ACTD) phase, which is scheduled to continue through the end of 2005. ADS will be operated from HMMWV, equipped with adequate power sources. Another application of ADS is considered for airborne applications, from platforms such as the AC-130 gunship. The development program will use more powerful and lightweight version of the land based system. This project is scheduled to continue through 2008.
As of January 2007, the system has entered extended user evaluation phase, and is currently deployed with the Air Force's 820th Security Forces Group (SFG) at Moody air force base in Georgia, USA. 820 is the first unit selected to conduct these tests. The system will be evaluated in assisting troops in securing base perimeters, checkpoints and entry control points during peacekeeping and humanitarian assistance, and crowd dispersal.



ADS uses high power microwave energy transmission, at a frequency of 95GHz. The emission is focused and directed at the target by a directional planar array antenna. The microwave energy penetrates a living tissue (such as human skin) to a depth of 0.5 millimeter and almost instantly produces a heating sensation that within seconds becomes intolerable and forces the subject to flee. The sensation immediately ceases when the individual moves out of the beam or when the beam is turned off. Despite the sensation, the beam does not cause injury because of the shallow penetration depth of energy at this wavelength and the low energy levels used. It exploits the human natural defense mechanism that induces pain as a warning to help protect from injury.​
Human effects experts have determined there are no long-term health effects associated with ADS, and research involving more than 600 volunteers and 10,000 exposures has proven there is a less than a one tenth of 1 percent chance of even a very minor injury.​

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Saw an article on Popular Mechanic years ago . never thought they got there. Then again the USSR were doing micro wave experiments on the US embassy in Moscow. A nice hand held type would be good for the neighbors dog that craps on your lawn, and the mother in law that never leaves. If this weapon has no side effects or permanent damages and is used for specific reason , crowd control or against an attack I say very well. But like any new weapon technology it is used for good as well as bad.
 

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Saw an article on Popular Mechanic years ago . never thought they got there. Then again the USSR were doing micro wave experiments on the US embassy in Moscow. A nice hand held type would be good for the neighbors dog that craps on your lawn, and the mother in law that never leaves. If this weapon has no side effects or permanent damages and is used for specific reason , crowd control or against an attack I say very well. But like any new weapon technology it is used for good as well as bad.

And what's to stop them from spinning the dial and upping the juice to the ray and cooking the crowd
which is what some of the hospital reporting.:wave:
 

darkbeaver

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Twisted profiteering lol

It's grass roots capitalism, just good business, tans is what people want and if you don't have to peel and get in a box, voila, instant money, we'ed have to loose the green colour though, they could be coin operated as well, cut down on the labour cost, and ten bucks is a better atarting price, what do you think, I got six-fifty to put in the operation right now.:wave:
 

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like I said good and bad it depends on the entension of who gives out the orders. Like the a bomb, the had to drop it on a heavy population , could of made a demonstration elsewhere.
 

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It does have potential if used right. Emagine winning a battle with no deaths. Great propiganda press.
 

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Hey beaver please don't respond to my post with a long answer with links galore unless your gone to the john lol
 

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Microwave gun to be used by US troops on Iraq rioters


By Tony Freinberg and Sean Rayment, Defence Correspondent
Last Updated: 9:36pm BST 18/09/2004


Microwave weapons that cause pain without lasting injury are to be issued to American troops in Iraq for the first time as concern mounts over the growing number of civilians killed in fighting.
The non-lethal weapons, which use high-powered electromagnetic beams, will be fitted to vehicles already in Iraq, which will allow the system to be introduced as early as next year.
Using technology similar to that found in a conventional microwave oven, the beam rapidly heats water molecules in the skin to cause intolerable pain and a burning sensation. The invisible beam penetrates the skin to a depth of less than a millimetre. As soon as the target moves out of the beam's path, the pain disappears.
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Because there are no after-effects, the United States Department of Defence believes that the weapons will be particularly useful in urban conflict. The beam could be used to scatter large crowds in which insurgents operate at close quarters to both troops and civilians.
"The skin gets extremely hot, and people can't stand the pain, so they have to move - and move in the way we want them to," said Col Wade Hall of the Office of Force Transformation, a body formed in November 2001 to promote rapid improvement across all of the American armed services.
Rich Garcia, a spokesman for the Air Force Research Laboratory in New Mexico, where the systems were developed, took part in testing the weapon and was subjected to the microwave beam which has a range of one kilometre. "It just feels like your skin is on fire," he said. "[But] when you get out of the path of the beam, or shut off the beam, everything goes back to normal. There's no residual pain."
A heated battle on a crowded Baghdad street last week that left 16 Iraqis dead, highlighted once again the pressing need to reduce the number of civilian casualties, and at the same time prevent further damage to relations between American troops and the Iraqi population. American commanders later admitted using seven helicopter-launched rockets and 30 high-calibre machine gun rounds in last Sunday's incident.
The armoured vehicles will be named Sheriffs once they have been modified to carry the microwave weapons, known as the Active Denial System (ADS). Col Hall said that US army and US marine corps units should receive four to six ADS equipped Sheriffs by September 2005.
The project was initiated only three months ago but US military chiefs intend to rush the Sheriffs into the front line, believing that they can be of immediate assistance.
In another development, the Sheriffs will be fitted with Gunslinger, a rapid-fire gun currently under development that will detect enemy snipers and automatically fire back at them.
If the Sheriffs prove successful, their use will be expanded in combat zones. They will also be deployed for security at ports and air force bases, and could take part in border patrols.

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