Israel's regular ceasefire violations of Lebanese airspace

earth_as_one

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Israeli's daily violations of the ceasefire agreement threaten to re-ignite this conflict.

Its only a matter of time until someone shoots down an Israeli warplane in Lebanon.

...A UNIFIL statement issued Monday said that the peacekeepers had submitted their report and findings on the incident to both parties.


"Both parties agreed with UNIFIL's recommendation to work on improving their liaison and coordination with UNIFIL in order to avoid similar situations or further escalation," the statement said.

The joint meeting also discussed the situation in the northern part of Ghajar, it added.

"UNIFIL shared, with both parties, the view of expediting the withdrawal of the Israeli Army from this area toward the south of the Blue Line in accordance with Security Council Resolution 1701," the statement said.

During the meeting, the Lebanese representatives once more presented UNIFIL with reports of the daily violations of 1701 by Israeli forces.
Israeli surveillance drones violated Lebanese airspace on Monday morning, even as the meeting was being held, flying over the South and the Bekaa Valley, army reports said...

http://www.dailystar.com.lb/article.asp?edition_id=1&categ_id=2&article_id=79475

A good chance it won't be Hezbollah...

France authorizes troops to fire at Israeli jets over south Lebanon

Jerusalem - French soldiers serving with the United Nations force in south Lebanon, who feel threatened by Israel Air Force (IAF) overflights, are permitted to shoot at Israeli aircraft, the Jerusalem Post daily reported Thursday, quoting 'a high-ranking French military officer.'

The French decision was conveyed several days after an Israel Defence Forces (IDF) general met French officials in Paris to explain why the IAF conducted the overflights in south Lebanon, in violation of a UN-brokered ceasefire which ended the fighting in the summer between Israel and Lebanese Hezbollah guerrillas.

The overflights over French positions have raised French hackles. On October 31, an IAF mock bombing run almost prompted the troops to launch anti-aircraft missiles.

Major-General Ido Nehushtan told his French counterparts in Paris that Israel was conducting the flights to collect intelligence on Hezbollah, which Israel has accused of also violating the UN ceasefire.

http://news.monstersandcritics.com/middleeast/news/article_1225547.php
 

earth_as_one

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Israel is still playing its games.

Israeli airspace violation prompts Lebanese army to open fire dpa German Press Agency
[FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Times New Roman, Times, serif]Published: Wednesday February 21, 2007[/FONT][/FONT]

Beirut- Israeli planes violated Lebanese air space on
Wednesday, prompting anti-aircraft fire from the army, Lebanese
police said.
According to the police the anti-aircraft fire targeted an Israeli
drone east of the southern port city of Tyre, but it was not hit.

Earlier, Israeli fighter-bombers had flown for two hours at low
altitude over various areas of southern Lebanon, including Tyre,
police said.

The UN has demanded a stop of Israel's violation of Lebanese
airspace because it breaches UN Security Council Resolution 1701
which implemented the August 14 ceasefire that ended the 33-day
conflict between Israel and Hezbollah.

http://rawstory.com/news/dpa/Israeli_airspace_violation_prompts__02212007.html

List of major Israeli ceasefire violations

Despite the very minimal demands laid upon Israel under UN resolution 1701, Israel has been constantly violating the terms of the ceasefire agreement.

Some of the more important violations:



Saturday January 27 2007
Eight people were hospitalized Saturday after inhaling toxic gases from poisonous balloons dropped by Israeli warplanes over Upper Nabatiyeh in southern Lebanon, the Lebanese National News Agency reported. NNA said among those who were rushed to hospital suffering from nausea and fatigue were a Lebanese staff sergeant, a recruit and An Nahar reporter Rana Jouni. The agency said Israeli warplanes dropped at least 10 poisonous balloons with Hebrew markings over Upper Nabatiyeh at about 9 am Saturday.
NNA said contacts have been made between the Lebanese army command and the U.N. Interim Force in Lebanon, which has instructed an Italian peacekeeping unit to take samples from the balloons for examination. The agency said the results are likely to come out on Sunday. NNA had earlier said that the Lebanese army’s engineering unit headed to the area and destroyed the balloons by explosives. The army, in a communiqué issued Friday, warned civilians against messing with the balloons and urged them to report finding them to the closest army unit. (Naharnet)

Thursday December 14, 2006
The Israeli Army carried out a brief violation of the UN-demarcated Blue Line, Lebanon’s National News Agency (NNA) said. The NNA said two Israeli tanks and about 60 soldiers penetrated 3 kilometers inside South Lebanon and “opened fire” at two shepherds herding sheep near the disputed Shebaa Farms. The shepherds, identified as Omar and Hicham Abdul Al, took cover at Halta Farm, while some of their livestock were hit by Israeli gunfire.

Monday December 11, 2006
Israeli jets violated airspace in southern Lebanon Monday by flying at low altitude over areas where UN peacekeepers are stationed. The jets also flew over the cities of Tyre, Marjayun and Nabatiyeh. (DPA)

Friday November 17, 2006
THREE Israeli warplanes violated again the Lebanese airspace. The fighter-bombers overflew the Tyre and Bint Jbeil areas where troops of the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) are deployed, intruding at high altitude repeatedly.(AFP)

Thursday November 9, 2006
Twelve Israeli jets violated Lebanese airspace on Thursday. The fighter-bombers entered Lebanon at 12:25 p.m. and flew high over the coastal town of Naqoura, headquarters of the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (UNIFIL) near the borders with Israel. They then flew over other Southern regions before flying at a lower altitude over the eastern city of Baalbek, the army added. The 12 planes left Lebanese airspace at 1 p.m. after flying over Tripoli and Akkar in the North.(AP)

Tuesday October 31, 2006
Israeli fighter jets dived low over the southern suburbs at least six times before roaring back into the sky. Lebanese security officials said eight Israeli jets had crossed the border and dispersed, flying over southern and central Lebanon, with some reaching south Beirut.Israeli fighter jets dived low over the southern suburbs at least six times before roaring back into the sky. Lebanese security officials said eight Israeli jets had crossed the border and dispersed, flying over southern and central Lebanon, with some reaching south Beirut.
Tuesday’s show was the heaviest aerial incursion of Lebanon since the end of Israel’s 34-day offensive against the Hezbollah militant group. Lebanon, with United Nations support, has frequently protested Israeli flights over its territory. (Reuters)

Wednesday October 25, 2006
Two Israeli warplanes and a German navy vessel have clashed off the Lebanese coast, the Defence Ministry in Berlin said on Wednesday without giving further details. Germany daily Der Tagesspiegel earlier on Wednesday quoted a junior German defence minister as telling a parliamentary committee that two Israeli F-16 fighters flew low over the German ship and fired two shots. The jets also released infra-red countermeasures to ward off any rocket attack, the paper quoted him as saying. “I can confirm that there was an incident,” a ministry spokesman told Reuters on Wednesday. An investigation was underway and he therefore was unable to provide further information, he added. (Reuters)

Monday October 23, 2006
Israeli Airforce planes swooped low over Lebanon on Monday, a day after Israel rejected a call by France’s defence minister to halt violations of its neighbor’s airspace. The planes conducted mock raids over much of southern Lebanon, Reuters reported, and residents saw them flying low over the capital Beirut, but neither Hezbollah nor the Lebanese army fired anti-aircraft rounds at them as they have done in previous years.

Tuesday October 17, 2006
Israeli troops, along with two bulldozers, crossed the UN demarcated Blue Line near the Lebanese border village of Kfar Kila on Tuesday. “The Israeli troops cut the barbed wire separating Israel and Lebanon and placed the water pipe 40 metres inside Lebanese territory,” the Lebanese army source said. “The incident took place in the sight of the French and Spanish peacekeepers who acknowledged that there was a breach of the Lebanese territories,” the source said without elaborating. The army source said that on Tuesday, Spanish UNIFIL troops were observing the area as the Israeli bulldozers broke the barbed wire to place a pipe to divert the rain-water into Lebanese territories. The Spanish troops did not interfere but took pictures of the breaches

http://tadamon.resist.ca/index.php/?p=246

If our news is so informative, how come Israel's regular ceasefire violations aren't better known?
 

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Yet another Israeli violation of the ceasefire agreement with Lebanon.

Israeli scout-planes violates Lebanese airspace MIL-LEBANON-ISRAELI-VIOLATION
Israeli scout-planes violates Lebanese airspace
BEIRUT, Feb 24 (KUNA) -- The Lebanese Army said Saturday an Israeli scout-plane violated the southern airspace of the country.

An army statement said the Israeli plane flew over several areas in southern Lebanon before returning to Israel.

Continuous Israeli violations of Lebanese airspace is considered as a breach of the United Nation's Security Council (UNSC) resolution No. 1701 that stipulates cessation of hostile acts between Beirut and Tel Aviv...

http://www.kuna.net.kw/home/Story.aspx?Language=en&DSNO=955385

Part of the reason I keep posting to myself is to make the point that Israel regularly violates UNSC resolutions with impunity. Sooner of later this conflict will flare up again and our news will fail to mention all these acts of war Israel has committed against Lebanon since the last flare up. But anyone who has followed this string will know the root cause.

Also if Israel routinely violates the rules of the ceasefire, does it make sense for Hezbollah to continue standing on the sidelines complaining about Israel's foul?
 

Sean D

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There would be more comment if a missle strike a light post in Israel.
 

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The root cause being the emassing of weapons by the Hezbollah.

We've been down this road before, though I know you will never accept the fact that Isarel is merely flying recon missions.

If terrorists stopped bringing weapons in, then the planes would stop.

This is like to Biker gangs, crying that surveillance of their activities, violates their civil liberties.

Good grief!!!

 

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Pretty quiet on this string... So quiet you can almost hear the distant roar of Israeli warplanes violating Lebanese airspace...

As you read these articles, consider if Lebanese planes were in Israeli airspace or an Israeli civilian had been captured by Lebanese soldiers or an Israeli farmer lost some land because Lebanon decided his land was on their side of the border. If Lebanon was doing the same things as Israel, how would Israel react?

I found this Arabic Media Internet Network news item. It is up to date on the increasing tension on the Israeli/Lebanese border as well as summarizes events since the Israeli/Lebanon war last summer:

http://www.amin.org/look/amin/en.tp...ation=7&NrArticle=39530&NrIssue=1&NrSection=3

This link describes a recent Israeli kidnapping
http://yalibnan.com/site/archives/2007/03/un_forces_israe.php



http://www.indiaenews.com/middle-east/20070213/39247.htm

Imagine how the poor farmer feels after losing half his livelihood. If this guy didn't support Hezbollah before, what are the chances he does now?

Any of the above activities could trigger. Sooner or later these sides will be shooting at each other again and the war will be on.
 

Zzarchov

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Israel is a terrorist state.:wave:

Then why aren't all of their enemies a scorched pile of radioactive glass plagued by roving clouds of nerve gas. :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :wave:

Apparently you don't understand the nature of a terrorist and what they will do with WMD's by very definition , its ok, you'll finish school someday :read2:

(aren't emoticons annoying when someone uses them like an idiot Darkbeaver? HINT HINT)
 

L Gilbert

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Israel terrorizes people, I'll admit. But they aren't the ones who developed suicide bombing and car bombing; the Hizbollah are. The Israeli don't sucker punch someone and then run and hide behind civilian women and children.
Again, I suggest everyone in the middle east gets too much sun (fried brains). That means EVERYONE, not just one side or the other.
 

darkbeaver

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Then why aren't all of their enemies a scorched pile of radioactive glass plagued by roving clouds of nerve gas. :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :laughing7: :wave:

Apparently you don't understand the nature of a terrorist and what they will do with WMD's by very definition , its ok, you'll finish school someday :read2:

(aren't emoticons annoying when someone uses them like an idiot Darkbeaver? HINT HINT)

Apparently you don't understand the nature of an idiot.:wave:
 

Zzarchov

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A solid point like the one on top of your head you mean?:wave:


Wow, a double post and neither one makes sense. You also managed to end with the same emoticon rather than make a single point. You know you have to be over 13 years of age to post here right?
 

Zzarchov

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You shouldn't assume that a point hasn't been made because you can't see it.:wave:


Yes you should, that is the definition of making a point. To make a point, you have to illustrate it so others can see it. That is the objective in a debate.

If you have a point, but fail to explain it to others, you have FAILED TO MAKE A POINT. Sorry, thats just the way it works.

Therefore, you have failed to make a point. Instead you utilize an emoticon.
 

darkbeaver

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Yes you should, that is the definition of making a point. To make a point, you have to illustrate it so others can see it. That is the objective in a debate.

If you have a point, but fail to explain it to others, you have FAILED TO MAKE A POINT. Sorry, thats just the way it works.

Therefore, you have failed to make a point. Instead you utilize an emoticon.

The others have seen the point I made, you're the one in need of glasses. The emoticon is a smile and a wave to keep from getting shot by the trigger happy..:wave:
 

earth_as_one

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If you guys just want to flame each other please start another thread. But if you want a serious debate, then please be respectful of each other and stick to the topic.

The topic is Israel's regular violations of the Israel/Lebanon ceasefire agreement. That agreement is also a UN security Council Resolution.

I would be interested in the opinions of people who support Israel, regarding Israel's daily ceasefire violations and why these violations aren't newsworthy?

Sean D, commented that a missile hitting an Israeli light post would generate more commentary than this subject. I agree. Would anyone care to speculate why our news doesn't inform us about Israel's ongoing violations of Lebanese airspace?

As detailed above, Israel's violations of Lebanese airspace include mock bombing runs, low altitude supersonic flight at all hours of the day and night, as well as unmanned surveillance drones.

Are the above violations of the Israel/Lebanon ceasefire agreement? Yes or no.

Are Israeli military flights into Lebanese airspace justified? Why or why not?

Would Lebanon be in violation of the ceasefire agreement if they shot down an Israeli aircraft while it was violating Lebanese airspace or as it was re-entering Israeli airspace? How about after it returned to Israeli airspace?

Would Lebanon be in violation of the agreement if they flew military aircraft into Israel's airspace? Would Israel be justified in shooting down such aircraft? Why or why not?

Have Lebanon's and UNIFIL's complaints to the UN regarding Israel's violation of Lebanese airspace been effective in stopping Israel from continuing to violate Lebanese airspace?

What should Lebanon do about Israel's military aircraft in their airspace?

What should the UN or the UNSC do about Israeli warplanes in Lebanese airspace?

Should the Lebanese military have the equipment required to prevent Israeli military flights in their airspace?

Let's have a civil debate please.