#1Sep 23rd, 2006
Thoughts? Comments?
Is Bin Laden Dead?
Thoughts? Comments?
#2
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 23rd, 2006
God I hope so, and I hope it was long and painful. I hope his kidneys took years to fail whilst he slept in a cave in the middle of no where. How ya doing with those grapes there Osama, yep grapes not virgins. Damn those scholors who couldn't read the lingo. Snicker, snicker.
#3
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 23rd, 2006
The unconfirmed rumor is Bin Laden died of Typhoid fever.
Quote:
What are the signs and symptoms of typhoid fever?
If you have typhoid fever you may have the following symptoms:
constant fever up to 104°
diarrhea
constipation
stomach pain
headache
malaise
nonproductive cough
slow heart rate (bradycardia)
anorexia
How soon after exposure do symptoms appear?
Symptoms usually occur within 1-2 weeks after exposure to the bacteria, but can occur from 3 days - 3 months after exposure.
How is typhoid fever diagnosed?
Only your doctor can tell if you have typhoid fever. A blood or stool sample is needed to diagnose typhoid fever. The samples are examined for S. typhi bacteria.
How is typhoid fever treated?
Typhoid fever is treated with antibiotics. A person will usually recover in 2-3 days with prompt antibiotic treatment. People that do not get prompt medical treatment may continue to have a fever for weeks or months, and as many as 20% may die from complications of the infection.
Conservative
#4
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 23rd, 2006
Geez, poor Osama...........denied martyrdom even.
I certainly hope this is true.
I certainly hope this is true.
#5
Re: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 23rd, 2006
LOL Here's an oxymoron: French Intelligence
This rumor circulates about every six months and then AlJazeera props up the cameras for yet another incarnation of the beloved bin....
We can only hope..... but there will be ten waiting in line to replace him.
This rumor circulates about every six months and then AlJazeera props up the cameras for yet another incarnation of the beloved bin....
We can only hope..... but there will be ten waiting in line to replace him.
#6
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
i dont' give a sorry f*** whether Osama's dead or not. Why would I trust the media on that subject??? ... it's been fuzzy and unclear 'till day one...
Whatever they tell me on that guy, I'll have a hard time believing it... He's a modern myth to me...
Whatever they tell me on that guy, I'll have a hard time believing it... He's a modern myth to me...
#7
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
Honestly I really doubt he's dead. If he is then he is. They'll tell you anything anymore hoping you'll believe it. Sorry but the only way i'll believe it is if they find his body and show it on TV for everyone to see that he's actually dead.
The Media can't be trusted in anything they say anymore and especally after 9/11 they'll fabracate their story to make it seem real.
The Media can't be trusted in anything they say anymore and especally after 9/11 they'll fabracate their story to make it seem real.
#8
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
Unfortunately it probably doesn't matter. He's a rat living in a hole and his death would have little impact on the Islamic nutbars. The actual physical man, alive or dead, is almost irrelevent.
'If' he is dead without conclusive evidence the Islamic world will experience a never ending equivalence of Elvis sightings. 'Osama has left the building'.
'If' he is dead without conclusive evidence the Islamic world will experience a never ending equivalence of Elvis sightings. 'Osama has left the building'.
#9
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
So far all the media is saying is that the French government leaked the story and they can't confirm if it is true or not. The media is only relaying what it it knows about it, which isn't much.
No Party Affiliation
#10
Re: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
Is Bin Laden dead?
1. who cares?
2. does it make any difference?
Answers:
1. very few people.
2. no.
1. who cares?
2. does it make any difference?
Answers:
1. very few people.
2. no.
#11
Re: RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by s_lone
Same here, no way i will believe anything they tell me on that guy, especially at this time of the year.i dont' give a sorry f*** whether Osama's dead or not. Why would I trust the media on that subject??? ... it's been fuzzy and unclear 'till day one...
Whatever they tell me on that guy, I'll have a hard time believing it... He's a modern myth to me...
#12
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
Yeah, what a few folks have said, it's about the same as if someone came out and declared that the Tooth Fairy had been shot- anyone think that the average Iraqi freedom fighter will decide that the current US occupation is now guaranteed to succeed and throw down there weapons?? I hope not..... as a matter of fact, if TOO much is made of this story, I would imagine it would rather be "giving comfort and aid to the enemy" , for if after 400 BILLION dollars and so many dead, the death of ONE MAN WHO MAY NOT EVEN EXIST being held up as any sort of "triumph" is laughable. If I were trying to drive foreign invaders from my country, and doing a pretty good job of it as the insurgency in Iraq is doing, and THIS was all they had to throw to their folks as a sign of "progress", then I would likely get the feeling that the invading force was getting desparate...
I wonder where this is gonna go?? Maybe if it is "proven" true, there can be some sort of "V-Bl" day to celebrate the killing of the biggest bogeyman of the last few decades
So, true or false, who cares, it is only the direction of the spin from here on out (and hopefully there'll be some fine quotes from Idiots like Limbaugh and O'Reilly and Coulter, alwasy good for some black-humour laffs) that interests me, personally
I wonder where this is gonna go?? Maybe if it is "proven" true, there can be some sort of "V-Bl" day to celebrate the killing of the biggest bogeyman of the last few decades
So, true or false, who cares, it is only the direction of the spin from here on out (and hopefully there'll be some fine quotes from Idiots like Limbaugh and O'Reilly and Coulter, alwasy good for some black-humour laffs) that interests me, personally
#14
Re: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by Wednesday's Child
I will have to add that to my list of things not to read while drinking hot coffee infront of my computer. ROTFLMFFAOLOL Here's an oxymoron: French Intelligence
To the topic at hand. If he dies at the hands of any foriegn power. Islam will explode in violence. If he fades away or dies of some illness, it would save a considerable amount of lives. But in the end, the blame will likely fall on the States. Their foriegn policy aside, they have become the global whipping boy as of late.
#15
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
Somehow I don't "get" the concept that "Islam will explode in violence"
I am pretty sure that most Muslims don't care too much about Bin-laden. The notion that the whole of the worlds Muslims actually care what happens to the possibly-never-existed-or-at-least-didn't-really
-have-anything-to-do-with-ANYTHING "Bin Laden" is kinda laughable, matter of fact. If Islam were the reactionary, dangerous religion that it is often painted as, there would have been a pretty big reaction by now...
I would suggest that most moderat Muslims would actually allplaud tha death of the boogeyman, so that they can be left alone. Hell, if someone I didn't have ANYTHING to do with did something that stupid and brought the heat down on me and all my friends, I would be pleased that the one purportedly responsible was taken out, cos then they have their pounds of flesh and they can shut up, having vanquished their boogeyman
You don't honestly believe that EVERY MUSLIM loves the caricature of evil that is Bin-laden, do you?? Even if there are a few moderate types who honestly believe that Bin-laden was indeed behind the 9-11 attacks, and think that the stated position of "driving the infidels out of the Muslim lands" might be a pretty good idea, anyone with any common sense would have to admit that the backlash from the attack (9-11) was totally disproportionate, and led to the global suffering of MANY Muslims, and thus is not something to be celebrated.
Just a thought, I had to address the inherent paranioa reflected in the sentiment that the entire Muslim world would erupt in apocalyptic violence at the death of a puppet who has done literally nothing since the alleged planning of the 9=11 attacks besides make crappy videotapes from a cave-
If Bin-laden was the one the entire Muslim world was counting on, then the "clash of civilizations/ideologies/whatever" is a farce, cos "enemy #1" has not done sweet bugger all for years and if crappy videotapes were the whole of the threat, then the whole war on terror is much ado about nothing
I am pretty sure that most Muslims don't care too much about Bin-laden. The notion that the whole of the worlds Muslims actually care what happens to the possibly-never-existed-or-at-least-didn't-really
-have-anything-to-do-with-ANYTHING "Bin Laden" is kinda laughable, matter of fact. If Islam were the reactionary, dangerous religion that it is often painted as, there would have been a pretty big reaction by now...
I would suggest that most moderat Muslims would actually allplaud tha death of the boogeyman, so that they can be left alone. Hell, if someone I didn't have ANYTHING to do with did something that stupid and brought the heat down on me and all my friends, I would be pleased that the one purportedly responsible was taken out, cos then they have their pounds of flesh and they can shut up, having vanquished their boogeyman
You don't honestly believe that EVERY MUSLIM loves the caricature of evil that is Bin-laden, do you?? Even if there are a few moderate types who honestly believe that Bin-laden was indeed behind the 9-11 attacks, and think that the stated position of "driving the infidels out of the Muslim lands" might be a pretty good idea, anyone with any common sense would have to admit that the backlash from the attack (9-11) was totally disproportionate, and led to the global suffering of MANY Muslims, and thus is not something to be celebrated.
Just a thought, I had to address the inherent paranioa reflected in the sentiment that the entire Muslim world would erupt in apocalyptic violence at the death of a puppet who has done literally nothing since the alleged planning of the 9=11 attacks besides make crappy videotapes from a cave-
If Bin-laden was the one the entire Muslim world was counting on, then the "clash of civilizations/ideologies/whatever" is a farce, cos "enemy #1" has not done sweet bugger all for years and if crappy videotapes were the whole of the threat, then the whole war on terror is much ado about nothing
#16
Re: RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by mabudon
There was, actually, not massive though, no. But I pretty sure they realise, that if the reaction is one off, it will then be one off for them too, wouldn't it be? But I have a strong feeling, they could start blackmailing the world with the "element of mass death" very soon.If Islam were the reactionary, dangerous religion that it is often painted as, there would have been a pretty big reaction by now...
#17
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
You're kidding right mabudon?
You want to talk about "disproportionate"?
Look at the ridiculous violence over a cartoon image of Mohammed. In the Middle East Ol' Bin is a Saint. They portray him as the preverbial torn in America's side.
If the US captures or kills him, the backlash would be near catostrophic. To believe otherwise is tantamount to joining the last CDN liberal Government with their heads in the sand.
My most humblest appologies for my generalization. Let me clarify that. The Islamofascists will erupt in violence. And seeming as there is a "disproportionate" number of them waging jihad, in many nations, plotting the eventual Islamic enslavement of the human race, it may not be prudent to encite them?
You want to talk about "disproportionate"?
Look at the ridiculous violence over a cartoon image of Mohammed. In the Middle East Ol' Bin is a Saint. They portray him as the preverbial torn in America's side.
If the US captures or kills him, the backlash would be near catostrophic. To believe otherwise is tantamount to joining the last CDN liberal Government with their heads in the sand.
My most humblest appologies for my generalization. Let me clarify that. The Islamofascists will erupt in violence. And seeming as there is a "disproportionate" number of them waging jihad, in many nations, plotting the eventual Islamic enslavement of the human race, it may not be prudent to encite them?
#18
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
Well, call me crazy, but I really can't see much reaction from Muslims at large no matter WHAT happens to "him", if "he" even exists at all, I have a feeling that the way the Western Media has portrayed UBL and how the Muslim Fundamentalists view "him" (and thus to what level of "reverence" they hold him) are two VERY different things- I don't think too many of the folks fighting the US occupation of Iraq, for example, could give 2 whits about Bin laden
And thanks for the clarification, as there's lots of Muslims in my neck of the woods and I didn't hear so much as a whispered "Death to America" so far this weekend
And thanks for the clarification, as there's lots of Muslims in my neck of the woods and I didn't hear so much as a whispered "Death to America" so far this weekend
#19
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
I don't hear alot of death to America from the Muslims I know either, but as much as I like them and call them friend. They have a rather slanted view of things in fact.
Infact they have tried to sway me with their propoganda of the events of 9/11. But on the other hand, they have opened the door to Islam to me. Teaching me about the real Islam. Not the boogeyman image.
Infact they have tried to sway me with their propoganda of the events of 9/11. But on the other hand, they have opened the door to Islam to me. Teaching me about the real Islam. Not the boogeyman image.
#20
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
Very cool man, and yes, folks with totally different perspectives certainly CAN appear to be pretty wacky, I will agree with you wholeheartedly on that 
#21
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
Al Jazeera and Zaman
Quote:
France to probe bin Laden memo
Saturday 23 September 2006
The French defence ministry is investigating the leak of a secret intelligence document that raised the possibility that Osama bin Laden might have died of typhoid.
Jacques Chirac, the French president, said he was "a bit surprised at the leak" and said he had asked Michele Alliot-Marie, the defence minister, to investigate its source...
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Quote:
Bin Laden Found Dead, Says Rumour
Sunday, September 24, 2006
zaman.com
The elusive al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, whom the United States has been in pursuit of since the Sept. 11 attacks, has been claimed to be dead.
The French news paper L’Est Republicain cited a report by the French intelligence service claiming that bin Laden had died from typhoid in Pakistan in August.
However, French and American officials declared the claim could no be confirmed.
On Saturday, L'Est Republicain quoted an internal memorandum from France's foreign intelligence service, the DGSE, as saying: "Saudi intelligence services seem to be sure that Osama bin Laden is dead.
The elements gathered by the Saudis indicate that while the head of al-Qaeda was in Pakistan on Aug. 23, 2006, he fell victim to a strong case of typhoid fever that led to a partial paralysis of his lower limbs.
President Jacques Chirac responded to questions from reporters by saying: "This information is in no way confirmed, in no way whatsoever, and I have no comment to make about it."
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#23
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 24th, 2006
There is a poll now at the globe and mail Link
Surprisingly, the vast majority of voters (so far) think he is not dead (though not many people have voted yet). Personally, I'm not sure. It's definately plausible that he is alive and definately plausible that he is dead, so it's pretty difficult to say which for certain.
Surprisingly, the vast majority of voters (so far) think he is not dead (though not many people have voted yet). Personally, I'm not sure. It's definately plausible that he is alive and definately plausible that he is dead, so it's pretty difficult to say which for certain.
#24
Re: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 25th, 2006Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter Sinister
my sentiments exactly... and I don't think he's dead already... I don't know... Gutfeel...Is Bin Laden dead?
1. who cares?
2. does it make any difference?
Answers:
1. very few people.
2. no.
#25
RE: Is Bin Laden Dead?
Sep 25th, 2006
Lastest interview with Bill Clinton ----did you hear it???
"I did not have sex with bin Laden."
Huge news.
"I did not have sex with bin Laden."
Huge news.
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