France: There is no such thing as a War on Terror

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No cheesy surrender for the Americans
by Wesley Pruden

September 8, 2006


French Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin has said there is no such thing as a War on Terror


The only flaw in France, a wise man once said, is the people who live there. This is harsh, and unkind to hundreds, maybe thousands of nice Frenchmen, but the men elected to govern France invariably succeed in living up to Marianne's speckled reputation.

President Jacques Chirac and his prime minister, Dominique de Villepin, set out yesterday to do what they could for Marianne and her reputation, and to reassure each other that France is, too, still consequential in the affairs of the world.

M. de Villepin, fearful of the Muslims looking over his shoulder to monitor his speech, gestures and behavior on behalf of Allah, told his parliament that there's no such thing as a "war on terror."

"Let us not forget that these crises play into the hands of all extremists," he said. "We can see this with terrorism, whether it tries to strike inside or outside our frontiers. Against terrorism, what's needed is not a war."

Every time we think we've been too hard on France, ordering only wines from the Napa Valley, dissing french fries and swearing off creme brulee, our froggie friends insist on living up to their reputation. M. de Villepin didn't have to tell us that France thinks "what's needed is not a war." We knew that. France never thinks war is necessary, as the men who sleep in the American and British cemeteries on the bluff overlooking the Normandy beaches learned six decades ago.

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jimmoyer

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LOL !!!

But the French bring up a point about terror that most
of the discerning liberal left make: That terror is to
be treated like a criminal event, handled by police, not
by soldiers and Generals, but by prosecutors and
bank investigators, not missles and tanks.
 

Logic 7

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Dominique devillepin, warned the "coalition of the willing" that the war in iraq, will be a nightmare to the coalition, the coalition turned around and claim french are irrelevent, now today, who is irrelevent?


The whole anglo-saxon, which the whole world is laughing at you.


Thankx you!


Vive dominique devillepin, a politiens who has balls, something missing in the whole anglo-saxon.
 

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By definition of the CIA or the US State Department, a terrorist or terrorist organization is a subnational institution. So essentially the "war on terror" assumed to be "war against terrorism" not the same words. It equates more to "game on, play". However essentially the US is extrajurisdicationally launching attacks on targets outside their own borders. Afghanistan is a war against "the taliban" the previous government of much of Afghanistan. The war in Iraq was a war against "Saddam and the Bath Party" the Government of Iraq. The kidnappings by the CIA etc.. have been "muslim" Jihadists predominately. Equivlent to geurilla organizations or militias. The innocent until guilty maxim never occured with Osama, even though Bin Laden himself "did NOT claim responsibility to the WTC and other attacks." The War on Terror is a rhetorical leaning to the idea "The War on Drugs" such as waged in columbia against "Drug Lords". It is essentially a liscence to attack groups "within" another country without going to war with that country. Essentially it is ignorance of jurisdictional boundry, or just allying with a "subnational" group in the country installing it as "the legitimate government" then saying they are fighting "subnationals" who in some cases were "the previous government". It is that simple.

The militant mentality will be physical extremism regardless. The concept of a "lawfully" enforced state, is extremism, it is then just a matter of closeness to the agreement with "the law" of a given group to identify how much potential harm or movement you have to denote "the level of extremism" it is all culturally based regardless. Extremism is cultrually defined but in generally any body with a militant arm, is to some foreign law extreme. Thus the "most lawfully enforced" countries or bodies, become the most extreme, however to a culturally consisten body, the oppourunities for those to be abberant to the law is reduced, only foreigners are "alienated, simply because they are alien to the values, or customs of the other area. However, if you are policed anywhere in the world, and resist, it is effectively "war" because maximum force will be used to "arrest you". It is all extreme in militancy and enforcement of the notion of ones ruling law.

Lebanon was a VERY bad thing. French speaking countries offer a greater chance of functioning economic trade with France. France and Russia and the United States and to a Lesser extent Britian seem to have the most invested in the area.

In general a better word for "The War on Terror" would be
"The War On Anti United States Organizations" or "The War On Groups that we can slander and disagree with while generally doing many of the same things they are with higher technology"

True they seem to be prepared to kill and resist the foreign influences in their countries, they call those people "freedom fighters", as for those launching attacks in other places, you got to wonder why they do it, but if you look at the United States history of rule by force, early history wars against the Spanish, then you see a different US. All in all however, as of late, the US will most likely admit, that it regularly breaks international law, so in effect the US is a Criminal State. As for even the US President recently saying, "Yah we did have secret CIA prisons operating outside the US" after they said for a while "NO, we don't have any of them". After a number of war crimes etc.. still the US is half way around the world helping establish a government (installing a government) undemocratically, by use of force, in an occupation mindset. IE they are there until they feel that the control can be shifted. In Afghanistan the NATO forces are killing civillians, in what is also an occupation.

For France there may not be a "War On Terror" and that is quite true. France is perhaps undertaking "peacekeeping operations" in Lebanon, after the Israeli butchering of the area.

The war on terror may be a 5 year old reality in the US, however in France perhaps the french have a Geurre Sur La Terreur
 

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Logic 7 said:
Dominique devillepin, warned the "coalition of the willing" that the war in iraq, will be a nightmare to the coalition, the coalition turned around and claim french are irrelevent, now today, who is irrelevent?


The whole anglo-saxon, which the whole world is laughing at you.


Thankx you!


Vive dominique devillepin, a politiens who has balls, something missing in the whole anglo-saxon.


He's got balls allright, big ones, and we know where they are too, planted frimly in Islams purse.

France, ah France. She reminds me of a movie star who had her prime in the 1930's. Very influential at the time, and everyone wanted to be like her, or indeed even be her. Today France is still that movie star, however she's now overweight, deaf in one ear, and blind in one eye. She has live-in health care providers, but still insists on dragging her too-much-makeup-wearing, overweight ,overbearing ,loud boorish rear-end out onto the world scene. She tries to hang out with the current stars and divas, but just doesnt fit the image of the rest of the stars on the red carpet because of the wheelchair and the oxygen tank. It's time to put her into the home and just go visit her on birthdays and holidays, because to be honest, no one wants to listen to her anymore. I think that pretty much somes up Fwance's relevancy.

Sincerely,

The Whole Anglo-Saxon
 

Logic 7

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thomaska said:
Logic 7 said:
Dominique devillepin, warned the "coalition of the willing" that the war in iraq, will be a nightmare to the coalition, the coalition turned around and claim french are irrelevent, now today, who is irrelevent?


The whole anglo-saxon, which the whole world is laughing at you.


Thankx you!


Vive dominique devillepin, a politiens who has balls, something missing in the whole anglo-saxon.


He's got balls allright, big ones, and we know where they are too, planted frimly in Islams purse.

France, ah France. She reminds me of a movie star who had her prime in the 1930's. Very influential at the time, and everyone wanted to be like her, or indeed even be her. Today France is still that movie star, however she's now overweight, deaf in one ear, and blind in one eye. She has live-in health care providers, but still insists on dragging her too-much-makeup-wearing, overweight ,overbearing ,loud boorish rear-end out onto the world scene. She tries to hang out with the current stars and divas, but just doesnt fit the image of the rest of the stars on the red carpet because of the wheelchair and the oxygen tank. It's time to put her into the home and just go visit her on birthdays and holidays, because to be honest, no one wants to listen to her anymore. I think that pretty much somes up Fwance's relevancy.

Sincerely,

The Whole Anglo-Saxon


True, in france they have the biggest muslim population, but what is the problem with this?


Noticed i said, dominique devillepin, not france, a country of white(only) human rights, that pretty sums up of what i think of france, still i have more respect for france than any in the "coalition of the willing", however france leaders are the most objectives leaders of all, sorry to tell you this, but tony blair, bush and harper, are over-ready for mental institute, and i have no word for those who support them, they still don't exist.
 

WilliamAshley

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That was sorta harsh.

France is a very developed and cultured country b the looks of it. There really isn't that much dividing France from the rest of the English speaking world... except that French is the primary language. In that respect France is a leader in the French speaking world.
 

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You cant have a war on terror because you are combating terror with terrorist acts. They blow up a building, killing innocent people. You bomb the country they are supposidly in, killing innocent people. You then become a terrorist.
Everyone is jealous of France because they have hot women, good food, and great wine.
Do you think they care that they changed french fries to freedom fries? They didn't even invent them!
 

Logic 7

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Gonzo said:
You cant have a war on terror because you are combating terror with terrorist acts. They blow up a building, killing innocent people. You bomb the country they are supposidly in, killing innocent people. You then become a terrorist.
Everyone is jealous of France because they have hot women, good food, and great wine.
Do you think they care that they changed french fries to freedom fries? They didn't even invent them!


Exactly, french fries, are from belgium.
 

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whats all this rubbish about Angles and Saxon's?...I'm a Jute!!! and I'm english!!!! world-wide ignorance I tells ya!!
 

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Everyone is jealous of France because they have hot women, good food, and great wine.

And they stink ?

On another note French is the only language they have to make laws to protect it from dying. Don’t believe me? ask Quebec.
 

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Logic 7 said:
Dominique devillepin, warned the "coalition of the willing" that the war in iraq, will be a nightmare to the coalition, the coalition turned around and claim french are irrelevent, now today, who is irrelevent?


The whole anglo-saxon, which the whole world is laughing at you.


Thankx you!


Vive dominique devillepin, a politiens who has balls, something missing in the whole anglo-saxon.

Talking out your ass again I see?

France is irrelevant, same as quebec.

France voicing it's disapproval to the war would probably have something to do with the whole UN illegal kickbacks scheme, which France was a major player in.in.http://timesunion.com/AspStories/st...=IRAQCOMMENTARY&BCCode=IRQC&newsdate=9/1/2006
 

Logic 7

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DurkaDurka said:
Logic 7 said:
Dominique devillepin, warned the "coalition of the willing" that the war in iraq, will be a nightmare to the coalition, the coalition turned around and claim french are irrelevent, now today, who is irrelevent?


The whole anglo-saxon, which the whole world is laughing at you.


Thankx you!


Vive dominique devillepin, a politiens who has balls, something missing in the whole anglo-saxon.

Talking out your ass again I see?

France is irrelevant, same as quebec.

France voicing it's disapproval to the war would probably have something to do with the whole UN illegal kickbacks scheme, which France was a major player in.in.http://timesunion.com/AspStories/st...=IRAQCOMMENTARY&BCCode=IRQC&newsdate=9/1/2006



Blah blah blah, the only one irrelevent is you and the whole anglo saxon, the whole world is laughing at you big time.

Everyone was involved, from americans,frenchs,british, just everyone, some us officials even told french officials that if they support the war, us will probably work with french oil coorporation to be in iraq, so your whole argument worth absotly nothing.