They thought the Brits were a soft target.....

Blackleaf

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How Americans can learn from the British when it comes to capturing terror plotters-

Meanwhile, British antiterrorism chief Peter Clarke said at a news conference that the plot was foiled because "a large number of people" had been under surveillance, with police monitoring "spending, travel and communications."

Let's emphasize that again: The plot was foiled because a large number of people were under surveillance concerning their spending, travel and communications. Which leads us to wonder if Scotland Yard would have succeeded if the ACLU or the New York Times had first learned the details of such surveillance programs.


They thought the British were a soft target....they were wrong.

'Mass Murder' Foiled

A terror plot is exposed by the policies many American liberals oppose.

Friday, August 11, 2006 12:01 a.m. EDT



This year the attempt to paint Bush Administration policies as a clear and present danger to civil liberties continued when USA Today hyped a story on how some U.S. phone companies were keeping call logs. The obvious reason for such logs is that the government might need them to trace the communications of a captured terror suspect. And then there was the recent brouhaha when the New York Times decided news of a secret, successful and entirely legal program to monitor bank transfers between bad guys was somehow in the "public interest" to expose.

For that matter, we don't recall most advocates of a narrowly "focused" war on terror having many kind words for the Patriot Act, which broke down what in the 1990s was a crippling "wall" of separation between our own intelligence and law-enforcement agencies. Senator Reid was "focused" enough on this issue to brag, prematurely as it turned out, that he had "killed" its reauthorization.

And what about interrogating terror suspects when we capture them? It is elite conventional wisdom these days that techniques no worse than psychological pressure and stress positions constitute "torture." There is also continued angst about the detention of terror suspects at Guantanamo Bay, even as Senators and self-styled civil libertarians fight Bush Administration attempts to process them through military tribunals that won't compromise sources and methods.

In short, Democrats who claim to want "focus" on the war on terror have wanted it fought without the intelligence, interrogation and detention tools necessary to win it. And if they cite "cooperation" with our allies as some kind of magical answer, they should be reminded that the British and other European legal systems generally permit far more intrusive surveillance and detention policies than the Bush Administration has ever contemplated. Does anyone think that when the British interrogate those 20 or so suspects this week that they will recoil at harsh or stressful questioning?

Another issue that should be front and center again is ethnic profiling. We'd be shocked if such profiling wasn't a factor in the selection of surveillance targets that resulted in yesterday's arrests. Here in the U.S., the arrests should be a reminder of the dangers posed by a politically correct system of searching 80-year-old airplane passengers with the same vigor as screeners search young men of Muslim origin. There is no civil right to board an airplane without extra hassle, any more than drivers in high-risk demographics have a right to the same insurance rates as a soccer mom.

The real lesson of yesterday's antiterror success in Britain is that the threat remains potent, and that the U.S. government needs to be using every legal tool to defeat it. At home, that includes intelligence and surveillance and data-mining, and abroad it means all of those as well as an aggressive military plan to disrupt and kill terrorists where they live so they are constantly on defense rather than plotting to blow up U.S.-bound airliners.

As the time since 9/11 has passed, many of America's elites have begun to portray U.S. government policies as a greater threat than the terrorists themselves. George Soros and others have said this explicitly, and their political allies in Congress and the media have staged a relentless campaign against the very practices that saved innocent lives this week. We doubt that many Americans who will soon board an airplane agree.


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unclepercy

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Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Yeah but Leaf, its not hard to spot a terrorists. I live across the border from one.

Rude comment. Just don't forget that you are a soft target. Even worse, everyone knows it.

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ROBDOG

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UNCLEPERCY,
LETS HOPE TERRORISTS DON'T LOOK AT CANADA NEXT IF IT'S A SOFT TARGET. I DONT WANT ANY MORE DEAD FROM ANY COUNTRY BUT YOU LIVE IN CANADA SO YOUR NOT THAT SAFE .(ARE YOU)
 

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How Americans can learn from the British when it comes to capturing terror plotters-

pure British nationalistic dripple I'd expect from Blackleaf. The fact that the UK is both smaller in size and smaller in population makes many things easyier to do then in a nation like the USA.

If you ask me the UK has shown that it is un-orginal if anything as it spent millions on just carbon copying the american terror alert system.
 

tamarin

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Canada is the ultimate soft target. And when terrorism returns to the West the northern dominion has got to be a destination of choice. Canadians have lost their will to take tough stands on controversial issues and the politically correct bullies are used to getting their way here. We'll see how things work out.
 

Logic 7

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Blackleaf said:
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Maybe we should wait a bit to claim victory, mastermind of 7/7 london bombing was a MI6 assets.
 

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Caleb-Dain Matton said:
Yeah but Leaf, its not hard to spot a terrorists. I live across the border from one.

For once I have to agree with you, Matton. Unfortunately Buskski doesn't yet realize he is one.