Two Muslim Brothers Released after London Raid last week

Jersay

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Police release two brothers arrested in London anti-terror raid
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at 17:40 on June 9, 2006, EST.
By BETH GARDINER

LONDON (AP) - Two men arrested in a London anti-terror raid last week in which one of the suspects was shot and wounded were released without charge Friday, police said.

Police had said they launched the June 2 raid, whose violence outraged many British Muslims, because of intelligence suggesting there was a risk that one of the men had built an explosive device that could release a toxic chemical gas. Officers stormed into a row house in east London, shooting a 23-year-old man in circumstances that remain unclear and then arresting him and his 20-year-old brother.

London's Metropolitan Police said both suspects were freed Friday evening.

Police, who did not publicly identify the men, said in a statement that detectives were still developing the intelligence they had received and would "continue to exhaust all lines of inquiry."

They said they had completed their search of the east London home where the men were arrested. They did not say what, if anything, they had found, but said they would hand the house back to its occupants.

Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Andy Hayman thanked neighbours for their "tolerance and understanding" during the search.

Police have defended the pre-dawn raid by almost 250 officers, saying they were responding to "specific intelligence" and had had no choice but to act.

The injured man was treated in a London hospital before being transferred to a high-security police station for questioning. Both brothers had been detained on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism, but their lawyers said they denied any link to terror.

The Independent Police Complaints Commission is investigating the shooting.

Last year, police at a London subway station shot and killed an unarmed Brazilian man they mistakenly believed to be a terrorist. They have apologized for that shooting, which came a day after four men unsuccessfully attempted to bomb the capital's transport system and two weeks after four suicide bombers killed 52 commuters aboard three London subways and a bus.

About 100 people demonstrated outside a London police station earlier Friday to protest the recent police shooting.

The sister of the injured man had urged supporters to stay away from the demonstration, which she said would cause trouble for the Muslim community.

The demonstrators chanted "Tony Blair - murderer" and held placards that said "Stop police brutality" and "Blair: Shoot first, ask questions later."

Organizers distributed a statement saying Muslims were being treated as second-class citizens, presumed guilty until proven innocent.

"The 'shoot first and ask questions later' policy of Blair and his dictators will not be tolerated by Muslims and indeed it should not be tolerated by anyone in Britain or elsewhere," said the statement, from the group al-Ghuaraba.

The demonstration was peaceful and there were no arrests.

The wounded suspects' sister had argued in a statement that the protest could create another opportunity for Muslims to be "portrayed in a negative light."

The statement from Humeya Kalam was read out at Friday prayers at mosques across the borough of Newham, and it asked people to support a peaceful community demonstration at noon on Sunday in a local park.

A separate protest was planned outside Metropolitan Police headquarters on Sunday

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Jersay

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I hope not. But tensions are raw and if racial profiling is going on and Muslim kids are being shot, or anyone that appears to fit the bill of a terrorist I just don't know. But all these mistakes doesn't help the government it helps the terrorists.
 

Blackleaf

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What mistakes were made?

The police had to go in there and do what they had to do because the people in the house were suspected of being terrorists. What do we do? Wait until terrorists blow people up before we take action?
 

I think not

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The British are very lenient, they should round them up and send them back to wherever the phuck they came from. Muslims in Europe are not integrated into their societies, it is an us and them situation, this is what you get with multiculturalism. Wake up Kanada! It's creeping up on you too!
 

Blackleaf

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Jersay said:
Beating kill the Multiculturalism are you.

Who are we (you) against??

Obviously, multiculturalism isn't working, and is dangerous, if Canada has a large Muslim population that wants to do you harm.

It also shows that being against the War on Terror hasn't made Canada immune from attack as you thought you would be.

But Americans also can't be complacent. The guys who flew planes into the World Trade Center had lived in the US and took flying lessons in Texas.
 

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The Times June 13, 2006

Hindsight and hindrances

Co-operation between police and the intelligence services is crucial



Most people understand the pressures on police who are grappling with an extremism that is amenable neither to reason nor restraint. It appears that Scotland Yard had no real choice over whether to mount a raid in Forest Gate last week. Whether they could have done so without injuring a suspect remains to be seen, but they had a duty to prove or disprove the intelligence that prompted the operation.

The events in the East End will not determine the future of the Metropolitan Police Commissioner, and neither will yesterday’s professed support from 10 Downing Street secure it. Instead, his fate will be clear for all to see when the Independent Police Complaints Commission reports next month on the fatal shooting of Jean Charles de Menezes. Justice, in whatever form it takes, can then be seen to be done. Until then Sir Ian Blair, a man who is not averse to public posturing, must bear with posturing from politicians as more “details” of the two operations are inevitably leaked.

Claims that the police had doubts about the intelligence, but were ordered to go ahead with the Forest Gate raid, have inevitably raised questions about the relationship between them and the security services. Indeed, this is a hoary chestnut in many countries. Intelligence officials are keen to suggest that the services are working together much more closely than in the past. This, however, may not be saying much. There remains a cultural chasm between the beat police officer and the desk-bound intelligence analyst. The services will always disagree, and we will never know by how much, but it is crucial that they redouble their efforts in striving for more efficient co-operation.

There will be no single moment of triumph against extremism, but a series of tactical moves, some of which are bound to fail. Recruiting the right people, infiltrating cells and measuring the credibility of sources are enormous challenges that will require repeated testing and evaluation. As the battle progresses it is essential that those involved in counter-terrorist operations have confidence, in themselves and each other. Experienced policemen must resist the temptation to sneer at rapidly recruited intelligence operatives, even though they clearly feel that they are sometimes set up as the fall guys. And security service boffins must show that they appreciate the courage of coppers who risk lives to test their hypotheses. Getting integration right is mission critical, much more so than in the transnational corporations that spend small fortunes to achieve “seamless” synergies.

The other challenge for the campaign is to ensure that it does not, through stumbles, stir young men to join the ranks of extremism. Nor should law-abiding citizens fear that they will be targeted indiscriminately. Where operations are less than perfect, the police need to move swiftly to explain and to reassure. In this they deserve the co-operation of every citizen. Those who have deliberately sought to inflame matters at Forest Gate, by trying to build an image of police brutality, are doing that neighbourhood a disservice. They would do well to realise that the police have a duty to protect all communities against terrorism. It does no good to set one community against another when the police and security services are trying to navigate new territory. Artificial alarmism is entirely inappropriate when the threat is real.

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Blackleaf said:
Jersay said:
Beating kill the Multiculturalism are you.

Who are we (you) against??

Obviously, multiculturalism isn't working, and is dangerous, if Canada has a large Muslim population that wants to do you harm.

It also shows that being against the War on Terror hasn't made Canada immune from attack as you thought you would be.

But Americans also can't be complacent. The guys who flew planes into the World Trade Center had lived in the US and took flying lessons in Texas.



You and I think not, are very good exemples of being arrogant, stupid, and retardeds, that is exactly what you guys are, and i will not retract what i am saying , there is no fucking proof that muslim did 9-11, no fucking proof that muslim did 7/7, capish??

The propaganda against muslim from you guys, are the same generated by the nazi towards jews during ww2.


So a get a grip morons.
 

Daz_Hockey

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RE: Two Muslim Brothers R

has anyone seen these two blokes?, they look like theyve put their heads on the wrong way, while that in itself is not an offense, it does make you bloody big target.

Besides, Menendez was a stupid mistake, I dont think theyd have THAT many police is there really was nothing in it