Terrorist Deniers

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Self-Loathing and the Denial of Terrorism

BY JAMES LILEKS

You're an enlightened world citizen. Your T-shirt says "9/11 was an inside job." You're pretty sure we're living in a fascist state, that President Bush taps the Dixie Chicks' phones, Christian abortion clinic bombers outnumber jihadis, and the war on "terror" is a distraction from the real threats: carbon emissions and Pat Robertson. Then you learn that 17 people were arrested in a terrorist bomb plot. How do you process the information? Let's take it step by step.

Gosh, that's horrible, you think. But no -- that's what they WANT you to feel. Recall the prime directive: Question Authority (unless he's a college professor). The plotters must have been impoverished olive farmers radicalized by the removal of Saddam Hussein. Why, if someone came in and toppled your president, you'd go to their country and ... well, you'd thank them. Unless they did it for the wrong reasons! Then you'd blow something up. Like an SUV dealership. At night. Anyway, you understand; you care a lot about Iraqis these days. You think about Iraq more than China, to be honest, but it's not as if you'll scrape off your "Free Tibet" bumper sticker -- unless it's to make room for "Free Darfur." Or "Hands Off Darfur," depending.

Wait a minute: The "terrorists" were Canadian? You can understand someone blowing up trains in Spain and London. They sent troops to an illegal war cooked up by neocons who want to kill brown people for Exxon and Jesus, or something. You can understand, reluctantly, blowing up teens in an Israeli pizza parlor, because the Jews took the West Bank from the sovereign, ancient nation of Palestine. (How can a liberal socialist country behave so poorly? The world is full of mysteries.) But Canada? Isn't Michael Moore from Canada? You can get medical marijuana from married gay doctors in Canada, and no one has guns. You console yourself: Maybe they were really planning to attack the U.S.

You realize the suspects were all Muslim, and you dread the inevitable pogroms. Haven't been any yet, but any day now. You read that a mosque was vandalized in Toronto after the arrest, and you feel a certain grim relief. Finally, racism! Banners. If you're going to have a march, you'll need banners.

But wait. You read that the suspects were not connected to al-Qaida, and you're confused for a moment. Maybe it won't be over if they get Osama bin Laden (provided he isn't really in an supersecret Idaho prison). What if the "terrorists" hate you for their own reasons? The evildoer-in-chief said "they hate our freedoms" -- as if we have freedoms, really, just try and get a bike-messenger job that has full health benefits. But what if rights and mixed-sex education and an economy based on sustainable hemp-based art installations mean nothing to them?

Maybe you could convince them to hold off while you fix Amerikkka. At least you can get it down to one k. Maybe if the Democrats take the House back. A 10-seat swing won't make the imams cool down, but 20 seats, in red states? Would that be a good-faith effort?

You worry this will push Haditha off the front page. It's very important that everyone concentrate on the atrocities committed by U.S. troops every day. (It's such a relief not to have to pretend to support the troops anymore.) Anyway, nothing happened. Nothing blew up. If the suspects were planning something, they didn't do it, and this proves we can handle this as a law enforcement matter. Even though the police are racists.

Your head hurts.

You have a friend in Toronto. She's cool. It would kill her if these arrests were made possible by NSA eavesdropping.

You find yourself almost wishing there was another real attack, so people could see the logical consequences of "fighting back" after 9/11. Yes, it would be bad, but sometimes you have to break an egg to show people the health impact of omelettes. Is it wrong to wish the Canadian terrorists might have succeeded?

Shouldn't you know the answer to that question?

June 7, 2006

http://www.newhousenews.com/archive/lileks060706.html
 

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Bah sounds like neo-con trash to me. You think the American Centre left and Canadian centre left support the Extremist, right ring religous terrorists? No... It's not confusing to anyone who cares to sit down and go threw the facts here.

But if you wish to make it that simplistic, as the orginal plan was to just blow away the Iraqi regeme without international support, then go ahead. History is proving that the USA had the right intention but the modus operandi was done wrong
 

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Well in the Neo-Con fairy tale mind, they believe all is over. I mean over 3 years ago Bush stood on top of the aircraft carrier and said "mission accomplished" Yet more Americans have died after he said that then before. Over two years ago the vice president said that the insurgency was in it's death throws. Not to mention the rest of his staff and the lies they told to get the USA into the War.

hmmmm who's living in the fairy tale land? I'd answer both the extreme right and the extreme left, but pot shoots taken by the extreme left to attack the centre right to left democratic base is pathetic.
 

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James Lileks used to be content with writing about his toddler's toilet training. Then Iraq gave him the chance to become the state's most famous conservative.

The Blogger at War
By Dennis Perrin

ILLUSTRATION BY RYAN KELLY

Having exposed the inferiority of Sri Lankan-made screensavers and named his 15 All-Time Campiest Christmas Ornaments, James Lileks needed a breather from his popular blog, The Bleat (www.lileks.com/bleats). He'd refrained from commentary for most of December, and those desiring fresh Bleats were forced to settle for retro-visuals and wry captions while the blogmaster dealt with the endless deadlines that haunt his existence. Then Saddam was yanked from a hole in Tikrit, causing the American media to go nuts. The dinner bell rang, and there was no way Lileks was going to miss this call--especially since he'd been valiantly cheering on the war from the front lines of Minneapolis.

They got him! Or so they suggested, back in March. No one said it explicitly, but for a day we hoped. The troops were massed and poised; intel came in, off went the rockets. I remember watching video of flames licking the sky that night--best of all possible worlds, it seemed. The war hadn't even begun, and maybe the butcher was a pink smear on a shattered hunk of concrete. Not the case, as it turned out. Then came another decapitation attempt before the troops took Baghdad, and I thought the same thing: if only."Coalition forces have discovered a liver on a rebar, and are making DNA tests as we speak!" But he lived.

Yes, but since this "decapitation attempt" took place in a heavily populated civilian area, there were doubtless civilian casualties. Their pink smears, however, were of no evident concern to Lileks--hey, that's what happens when you live in Saddam's 'hood. Comes with the blasted turf, the "best of all possible worlds."

Having warmed up with this, Lileks went off, wildly assuming what The Arab Street thought of the event, giving Saddam a psychological profile from thousands of miles away (his imperial Joyce Brothers bit), and projecting his "ironic" Oh, isn't the U.S. just awful! routine on those who opposed the invasion. Because, you see, only a rabid America Hater could find something wrong with Bush's war.

Lileks expanded on this theme: "I've read all the nutball far-left sites worrying about the worrisome worries--does this help Dub? Was it all faked? Surely America will see that the man paraded before the cameras was a soy-based simulacrum cooked up in the Halliburton labs? It's amusing to troll the fevered swamps, but nothing they say matters in the end."

Here, Lile
 

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Why I am glad I act the way the article states.

Because I am not going to listen to Neo-con BS.

I know you won't, you're not tolerant of opposing views. Your ideology says so and your posts do the same.
 

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It is funny how they marched right in tune with the way the author of the article said they would.

They are so simple and are to be pitied at best.
 

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Re: RE: Terrorist Deniers

EagleSmack said:
It is funny how they marched right in tune with the way the author of the article said they would.

They are so simple and are to be pitied at best.

Like how you march blindly supporting Bush's failed policies.

I may not wish the american army to withdrawl from Iraq, as the country will fall into even more chaos but supporting the policies of the moron who brought this dissaster and who f*cked everything up, is just blind.
 

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Actually I do not march blindly and are against many of Bush's policies. To be honest as much as I respect my President I will be happy to see a change in office in a couple of years. I think Bush has drifted away from the Republican Party and the things that got him in office to begin with.

Nice try though. Any other assumptions you would like to make?
 

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Re: RE: Terrorist Deniers

EagleSmack said:
Actually I do not march blindly and are against many of Bush's policies. To be honest as much as I respect my President I will be happy to see a change in office in a couple of years. I think Bush has drifted away from the Republican Party and the things that got him in office to begin with.

Nice try though. Any other assumptions you would like to make?

Then don't make assumptions like the writer and supporter of that article which lumps everyone who doesn't support the war into one loonie left camp. Thank you.
 

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Well the point is that he said that certain folks would react this way and whether you like it or not... they're reacting just as he said.

The truth hurts sometimes I know.
 

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of course someone who doesn't support the war would react negitively towards that article... or a better way would be to totally ignore it as Neo-con trit and trash which it is. It is insighting a responce which it predetermined and thus anyone who responds to it is what it claims to say which is more neo-con trash as it is generalizing a large section of the community as such.
 

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Well the way the article is written strikes a nerve in the people that he is speaking about.

Why?

Because they are thinking or reacting exactly, or close to the way they said he was.

When the story first broke out some folks on this board were saying "No big deal", "They are innocent until proven guilty" (which I agree by the way), "They were most likely planning to use these weapons in the US."

Yes indeed... he called it out and some folks on the left see themselves in the article.

"Hey... he wrote what I was thinking, what I have been saying all along... NEO-CON TRASH WRITER!"
 

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no, because he is trying to lump all these different people into the same bag. Yes there is a very small minority who think the same way he says they do.

Also he jokes at the grians of truths in what he tries to mock. A part of the problem is the Americans creating an enviroment for terrorism to happen, largely in Iraq, I would not blame bush or the americans for the 17 caught here or in London, these were violent responces to violent actions.
 

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Listen... for sake of argument. Lets just say America pulled out of Iraq and let the Middle East be. Lets say we left Israel out to dry... no better yet... lets say Isreal found a new homeland right here in the US. We'll give them Montana.

After all is said and done... they would STILL want to destroy the west and our way of life. They say it over and over and over. They do not like us and that means Canada too. To them, we are immoral and deserve nothing more than a good killing or conversion by the sword.

No matter how much you try to reason with them and extend the olive branch and seek a common ground it is falling on their deaf ears.