Can a Christian be a liberal? Short answer: no.
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I don't know what to say.
To be quite honest, I think this article is nothing more than garbage — no offense to the poster of the article intended, of course. I think that the author of the article has a vested belief that it's the Christian way or the highway, and that anyone or anything who would do anything not in line with the Church shouldn't be voted for.
To be quite honest, I think this article is nothing more than garbage — no offense to the poster of the article intended, of course. I think that the author of the article has a vested belief that it's the Christian way or the highway, and that anyone or anything who would do anything not in line with the Church shouldn't be voted for.
Give unto Caesar that which is Caesar.
So it would seem to me that a Christian ought not even engage in partisan politics. As such, you're right that he cannot be a liberal. but then again, he can't be conservative, socialist or anything else partisan political either.
Cheers
So it would seem to me that a Christian ought not even engage in partisan politics. As such, you're right that he cannot be a liberal. but then again, he can't be conservative, socialist or anything else partisan political either.
Cheers
RE: Can a Christian be a
The title of the article, a Christian can be a christian or a liberal but he can't be both is stupid and so is the author,an orange can be an orange or an apple but it can't be both.
This is however indicative of christians stupid double and triple talk, senceless rubish, mixed up qualifyers dangerous delusional dummys.
The title of the article, a Christian can be a christian or a liberal but he can't be both is stupid and so is the author,an orange can be an orange or an apple but it can't be both.
This is however indicative of christians stupid double and triple talk, senceless rubish, mixed up qualifyers dangerous delusional dummys.
A person, any person, can embrace the Christian faith while adopting a center/left, or liberal political position. Conservatives tend towards narrow, fundamentalism, and the bottom line, which is not Christianity but some bastardised hybrid delusion espoused by people like Oral Roberts and Pat Robertson and others.
RE: Can a Christian be a
When I think of a good Christian, the picture of Mother Theresa invariably pops into my mind and never the picture of Pat Robertson. The question is not 'can a Christian be a Liberal' but rather 'are fundamentalism and Christianity incompatible'?
Somehow I just can't picture Mother Theresa ever having said 'so-and-so should be assassinated'.
It's hard to think of a more oxymoronic term than 'fundamentalist Christian'.
When I think of a good Christian, the picture of Mother Theresa invariably pops into my mind and never the picture of Pat Robertson. The question is not 'can a Christian be a Liberal' but rather 'are fundamentalism and Christianity incompatible'?
Somehow I just can't picture Mother Theresa ever having said 'so-and-so should be assassinated'.
It's hard to think of a more oxymoronic term than 'fundamentalist Christian'.
RE: Can a Christian be a
I agree with your view Juan but since there are thousands of divergant sects and cults claiming christian heretige the term christian has become meaningless. The separation of church and state was adopted in the first place to protect and preserve the publics right of ownership of government. It (christianity) has to a large extent usurped and circumvented that rule of law. The politics of religion have always been exclusionary and expansionary and have always led to oppression. I have no quarrel with private religious practice but I object to it's participation in any legislative function.
I agree with your view Juan but since there are thousands of divergant sects and cults claiming christian heretige the term christian has become meaningless. The separation of church and state was adopted in the first place to protect and preserve the publics right of ownership of government. It (christianity) has to a large extent usurped and circumvented that rule of law. The politics of religion have always been exclusionary and expansionary and have always led to oppression. I have no quarrel with private religious practice but I object to it's participation in any legislative function.
Christians, muslims, jews and all religious people are morons.
Period.
If I worshiped a teapot orbiting around the earth you'd call me a moron, so why should they be any different?
Religion is just a convenient divisive force for war. It encourages conformity and supresses individual ideas, freedom of thought and critical thinking.
It also ignores the science of evolution.
Religion is dogmatic garbage.
Period.
If I worshiped a teapot orbiting around the earth you'd call me a moron, so why should they be any different?
Religion is just a convenient divisive force for war. It encourages conformity and supresses individual ideas, freedom of thought and critical thinking.
It also ignores the science of evolution.
Religion is dogmatic garbage.
Re: RE: Can a Christian be a
How ya doing Acudor, mother Theresa prevented the use of birth control, she adhered to catholic doctrine, in doing so she hurt more people than she helped, especially women and children, there are studies that prove this. Her mission was and is a circle of misery, her adherance to catholic doctrine perpetuated the cycle of poverty and birth into poverty. I think she aptly existed to lend wieght to the old saying, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
What are the fundamental tennants or purposes of christianity?
The question can't be answered. The multiplicity of different christian sects prevents any clear answer of the question. Fundamentally there are no fundamental rules or meanings therefore there are no fundamental christians, only a sea of ignorant backward superstition and hypocricy.
Acudor said:
How ya doing Acudor, mother Theresa prevented the use of birth control, she adhered to catholic doctrine, in doing so she hurt more people than she helped, especially women and children, there are studies that prove this. Her mission was and is a circle of misery, her adherance to catholic doctrine perpetuated the cycle of poverty and birth into poverty. I think she aptly existed to lend wieght to the old saying, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
What are the fundamental tennants or purposes of christianity?
The question can't be answered. The multiplicity of different christian sects prevents any clear answer of the question. Fundamentally there are no fundamental rules or meanings therefore there are no fundamental christians, only a sea of ignorant backward superstition and hypocricy.
How can a christian not be a libera? Where does the bigotry and hatred spewed by many conservative christians fit in with Jesus's message of peace and love for your fellow man?
Of course, quinton has it right. All religion is man-made superstition that makes the question pointless.
Of course, quinton has it right. All religion is man-made superstition that makes the question pointless.
religion is a form of mental illness
since liberalism and socialism denote intelligence and mental health
they are somewhat antithetical
many religious people are good liberals and good socialists --and just generally --good
that however is inspite of their faith not because of it
since liberalism and socialism denote intelligence and mental health
they are somewhat antithetical
many religious people are good liberals and good socialists --and just generally --good
that however is inspite of their faith not because of it
I agree, Christians claim peace and love.
In this article and many more I have seen by religious right wing nutjobs, I find that extremely doubtful.
In this article and many more I have seen by religious right wing nutjobs, I find that extremely doubtful.
I actually wrote the Christian Heritage Party, said I wasn't Christian, and they wrote back and said I wouldn't understand their platform. So I think I know what I am talking about.