French bid au revoir to 35-hour workweek

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French bid au revoir to 35-hour workweek

Parliament allows employers to increase time by 220 hours a year
March 22, 2005 AP

PARIS - French lawmakers effectively abolished the country’s 35-hour workweek Tuesday by allowing employers to increase working hours — and pay — as the country struggles with high unemployment and stagnating living standards.

In a final vote, the National Assembly approved a government-backed bill permitting employers to negotiate deals with staff to increase working time by 220 hours a year in return for better pay.

The bill effectively clears the way for the gradual erosion of the 35-hour week, a flagship policy of the former Socialist-led government that gave many people more time off but added to concerns about France’s declining global competitiveness.

The shorter workweek was introduced on a voluntary basis in 1998 and made compulsory two years later in a bid to force employers to hire more people. But France’s current 10 percent jobless rate is testament to the policy’s failure to generate the promised millions of new jobs.

The National Assembly, controlled by French President Jacques Chirac’s conservatives, approved the new law 350-135. It does not formally abolish the 35-hour workweek but allows employers to offer staff extra working hours at a higher rate of pay.

It also enables workers to sell part of their holiday entitlement back to their employers or put it toward training or early retirement.

In order to apply the changes, however, companies will have to break away from their broad sector-wide agreements with unions — unchanged by the new law — and negotiate deals with their own staff representatives.

This means the effects of the reform will not be seen for some time.

Any such initiatives also could prove unpopular in France’s present economic climate. Almost 1 million people participated in nationwide strikes and demonstrations earlier this month to protest the change to working time, as well as other threats to workers’ benefits and public sector pay.

Many French workers have become accustomed to taking longer holidays and regular weekdays off under the 35-hour law, and a recent survey by polling agency CSA showed that 56 percent of salaried employees oppose the bill.

However, jobseekers, retirees and unskilled workers approved of the change.

Last year, a parliamentary committee reported that the 35-hour week cost France more than $13 billion a year, casting doubt on a labor ministry study that suggested it had created 350,000 jobs between 1998 and 2002.

Some also argued that the shorter week hurt living standards because employers froze salaries to make up for lost labor.

According to a 2003 OECD survey of 25 industrialized countries, only Norwegian and Dutch employees worked less time each year than the French, who worked an average 1,431 hours. German workers put in 1,446 hours, British 1,673 hours, Americans 1,792 hours and Koreans 2,390 hours.

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aeon

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What do you hate about the french?? that they have guts to go in the streets and protest what they don t like?? something that you brits don t have the guts to do, same for americans, tell me, i want to know.
 

Jay

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You would have to have a grasp on politics and economics to understand the issues.
 

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Jay said:
You would have to have a grasp on politics and economics to understand the issues.


And a fascist like you does??
 

Jay

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That's a pretty big charge you have laid out....care to back it up?
 

aeon

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Jay said:
That's a pretty big charge you have laid out....care to back it up?


Supporting blindly a war against like in iraq and afganisthan, supporting israel , with all the facts we know so far,makes me think you are racist and more importantly anti-muslim.
 

Jay

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Wow!

You have managed to call me a fascist, racist, anti-Muslim and blind. That's pretty good for first thing in the morning. It's going to be a good day eh?
 

aeon

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Jay said:
Wow!

You have managed to call me a fascist, racist, anti-Muslim and blind. That's pretty good for first thing in the morning. It's going to be a good day eh?

Totally.
 

Jay

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Great!

I guess I'll have to lay it on good'n thick today. I'm sure I will be handed plenty to work with.
 

Mogz

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What do you hate about the french?? that they have guts to go in the streets and protest what they don t like?? something that you brits don t have the guts to do, same for americans, tell me, i want to know.

I personally have more constructive things to do then riot in my own city, destroying everything my tax dollars pay for. Perhaps the Brits, Americans, and Canadians are slightly more intelligent than our French friends. Lord knows they're turned to us for help a time or two in the 20th Century.


And a fascist like you does??

Fascism:

A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.

A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
Oppressive, dictatorial control.

Might want to bone up on exactly what a fascist is there aeon, before you start slinging mud at fellow board members. If you think Jay is a fascist, you're sadly mistaken. He's nothing more than a Conservative, and last time I checked, they're the ruling party of this Country.


Supporting blindly a war against like in iraq and afganisthan, supporting israel , with all the facts we know so far,makes me think you are racist and more importantly anti-muslim.

So the War in Iraq, and Afghanistan are racially driven now? What happened, abandon the evil corporation syndrome there aeon? This is what I love about zealots, if you're not with them, you're everything evil in the World; racist, anti-muslim, fascists. Perhaps aeon, and here's a concept, Jays ideals don't fall inline with your narrow view of the World? Possible? I think so, considering every post you make either deals with Israel or evil corporations, or the illegal war in Iraq and/or Afghanistan. It's the same rhetoric over and over. If that's your belief, fine, but don't expect everyone to follow your ideals and publically insult, harass, and demean them. Might want to take a look in the mirror my friend. You're a lot closer to a fascist than Jay is.
 

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Mogz said:
I personally have more constructive things to do then riot in my own city, destroying everything my tax dollars pay for. Perhaps the Brits, Americans, and Canadians are slightly more intelligent than our French friends. Lord knows they're turned to us for help a time or two in the 20th Century.


s.


And french helped americans to get rid of the brits, but i guess, it is too far away for you to remember.

Saying Brits , americans and canadians are stlighly more intelligent is quite retarded, frrench were the first to phylosphe on life, i guess you don t need to be smart to phylosophe.

French politiciens warned the coatlition of morons before going to war, they predicted exactly what is going on in iraq, i guess this is irrelevent, it is , cause if we had listen to the french, there would be no mess in iraq right now.
 

Jay

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aeon said:
Saying Brits , americans and canadians are stlighly more intelligent is quite retarded, frrench were the first to phylosphe on life, i guess you don t need to be smart to phylosophe.

Any credibility you had just flew out the window....if you jump out after it maybe you can catch it.
 

aeon

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Jay said:
aeon said:
Saying Brits , americans and canadians are stlighly more intelligent is quite retarded, frrench were the first to phylosphe on life, i guess you don t need to be smart to phylosophe.

Any credibility you had just flew out the window....if you jump out after it maybe you can catch it.


From someone who takes Ann coulter quotes, to prove anything, worth absotly nothing to me.
 

Jay

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Wow!

Tell ya what...here's a quarter go tell someone who gives a sh*t.

 

Sassylassie

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The poor French, how many hours are they required to work now? 36 hours, 36.5 with two hour breaks. Poor sods. At least they can drink wine on their lunch hour, I'd be sacked if I drank during working hours.