INVASION & OCCUPATION stop calling it a war!

[jjw1965]

There was never any worthwhile resistance from Iraqi forces when, on March 19, 2003 , we started the long awaited invasion of a hapless republic that just happens to be in the oil rich historic and biblical center of the Middle East. A nation that, at that time, had some twenty-five million inhabitants, was roughly the size of California, had been embargoed and starved under the thumb of the United States and United Nations for more than a decade, and is the perfect spot for additional hi-tech military bases in our Empire’s spread towards Iraq’s neighbors and eventually China. No matter what else happens, we won’t give up that stepping stone.

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[Ocean Breeze]

good article , jjw. and agree. I & O... is the more accurate language here.

taking a long time for many to realize that bush wanted Iraq since before he took office....

He would have NEVER gotten away with it if it had not been for 9-11 and the "mood" of the nation at the time. But reality is sinking in .........and it ain't pretty.

 

[no1important]

RE: INVASION & OCCUPATION

It never ever was a war. American press call it war because "W" says it is. It was an illegal invasion and now it is an illegal occupation. Plain and simple.

 

[Canucklehead]

RE: INVASION & OCCUPATION

While we're at it, can we please start calling those peoples taking pot shots at the US troops what they really are... resistance fighters?!

 

[no1important]

RE: INVASION & OCCUPATION

They are resistance fighters not insurgants, terrorists or any other fancy name the bush crime family comes up with.

Funny if roles were reversed and Iraq invaded america, the "resisitance fighters" would be called hero's or some other cock n bull man made name, and they would not be called terrorists or insurgants.

 

[missile]

It's about time some other posters have gotten the right ideas

 

[moghrabi]

It's about time some other posters have gotten the right ideas

Missile.

It is extremely hard for the other posters to see it. They were blinded by false patriotism. They follow their moron leader blindly.

 

[#juan]

Just a minute here.

When the U.S., with the help of Great Britain, bombed the hell out of Iraq, destroying any infrastructure they could find, and using their air superiority to defeat and destroy Iraq's military, as well as killing many tens of thousands of civilians, that is war. It was an unprovoked war that civilian resistors are still fighting. Invasion and occupation were part of that war but occupation requires responsibility on the part of the occupiers. Responsibility to protect civilians and protect the art treasures, and historic valuables of the occupied country. That responsibility has been absent from day one. The American's first thought was to guard the oil ministry. It is a terrible, one-sided war, but it is a war.

 

[Blackleaf]

Countries that sent troops to Iraq - Albania, Armenia, Australia, Azerbaijan, Bosnia and Herzegovina, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Denmark, El Salvador, Estonia, Georgia, Italy, Japan, Kazakhstan, South Korea, Latvia, Lithuania, Macedonia, Mongolia, Netherlands, Norway, Poland, Romania, Slovakia, United Kingdom, and Ukraine.




Countries taking part in the training of Iraqi Security Forces as part of the NATO Training Mission are not being counted as part of the Coalition

The Kingdom of Tonga's contingent of 40+ troops returned home on December 17, 2004. Hungary completely pulled its troops out of Iraq by December 22, 2004. Portugal withdrew its contingent of policemen after having been in Iraq for 15 months in February 2005. Moldova withdrew its contingent of 12 in February 2005. Fiji initially deployed 150 troops to Iraq, and later an additioanl 90, but they are there under UN banner (UNAMI) and are therefore not be counted in the coalition. Singapore deployed a ship to the Persian Gulf on Nov. 27, which returned home in March 2005 but since the country does not actually contribute troops on the ground in Iraq, it was not included in the coalition count. Armenia deployed 46 troops to Iraq in mid-January 2005. A new arrival to the list is Bosnia and Herzegovina which deployed an EOD platoon to Iraq in June 2005.

Countries which had troops in or supported operations in Iraq at one point but have pulled out since: Nicaragua (Feb. 2004); Spain (late-Apr. 2004); Dominican Republic (early-May 2004); Honduras (late-May 2004); Philippines (~Jul. 19, 2004); Thailand (late-Aug. 2004); New Zealand (late Sep. 2004); Tonga (mid-Dec. 2004) Hungary (end Dec. 2004); Portugal (mid-Feb. 2005); Moldova (Feb. 2005);

Countries supporting UNAMI: Fiji (150+); Georgia


http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita..._coalition.htm

Looks like the war is actually more popular in the world than many people imagine. Around FORTY countries have helped the United States in the Iraq War. France and Germany didn't inly because of their big money deals with Saddam that were lost when he was outed.

In fact, the ONLY major countries in the world that have not helped the US in this war so far seem to be France, Germany, Russia, China (most of whom were allies of Saddam) and Canada.

Even Australia sent troops there - the 3rd biggest contingent after US and UK.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Look around you right now. Count the people in your home; your children, siblings, parents, pets, whom ever happen to be at your home at any given time. Add your neighbors on either side of where you are. Now imagine that you come home to find them all dead because a car bomb exploded in front of your home. How would you feel?

Now imagine that the only reason that someone was able to drive that car bomb up to your home and obliterate your family in the blink of an eye, is because some Governor from another state thought your mayor was a bastard, so they sent their National Guard in to depose your mayor. In the process they also fired all the police and let everyone out of jail. How would you feel?

How would you feel towards the Governor who unleashed this horror unto your family? How would you feel towards the people who supported the actions that led to the obliteration of your family? How would you feel after you lose everyone and everything that is dear to you because people in a state on the other side of the nation poked their nose into your city’s business? How would you respond? How would you feel?

I’ll tell you how you would feel…you would feel like an Iraqi. Now perhaps you will better understand how & why they respond to the PNAC invasion of their nation, no matter what that response may be. Think about it! – Jesse, Editor, TvNewsLIES.org

 

[Blackleaf]

New Zealand sent troops there. And Singapore. And Portugal, Hungary, FIJI!, HONDURAS!, TONGA!

Canada, I think it's time YOU sent troops to Iraq.

 

[no1important]

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Well Italy is pulling troops out next year.

Italy to give Iraq pullout calendar in few weeks

MESSINA, Italy, Nov 25 (Reuters) - Italy will spell out the dates of a planned phased withdrawal of its 2,900 troops in Iraq in the next few weeks, Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said yesterday.

Some in coalition planning to exit

A teaser:

WASHINGTON — President Bush has vowed not to "cut and run" in Iraq until the mission is accomplished and the Iraqi army can stand up.

But a number of countries in the Coalition of the Willing appear ready to "snip-and-slide" out of Iraq in the next few months with more going by the end of next year, according to news reports from member countries.

For example, European media last week reported that the British, with 8,500 troops in Iraq, by far the largest allied contingent, were completing exit plans for a phased withdrawal starting as early as the middle of 2006. Prime Minister Tony Blair repeated the "job is done" mantra but said "it's entirely reasonable to talk about the possibility of withdrawal of troops next year."

Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, in London, said a 2006 timetable sounded about right.

The South Koreans, who have the next-highest number of troops, 3,200, are clearly in drawdown mode. South Korea's defense minister said last week that 1,000 troops would be withdrawn soon. More withdrawals may come next year, the Yonhap News Agency reported Nov. 5.

The fourth-largest deployment, Italy's 3,000 troops, is starting to withdraw in groups of 300, beginning in the next few weeks, Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi said Friday. Berlusconi said earlier this week that Italian troops would be out by the end of 2006.

The coalition of the "brainwashed" is sure getting smaller.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: RE: INVASION & OCCUPATION stop calling it a war!

New Zealand sent troops there. And Singapore. And Portugal, Hungary, FIJI!, HONDURAS!, TONGA!

Canada, I think it's time YOU sent troops to Iraq.

and who the feck are you to tell Canada what to do?? Why the feck would Canada want to be tainted by the US criminal brush??

those nations involved were COERCED....... bribed or threatened......

we make our own decisons.......and if you don't like it.....tough titty.

 

[Blackleaf]

I never told Canada what to do. I say I think you should send troops. Most other major power has.

It doesn't matter if Italy is pulling its troops out next year, because even Britain is pulling its troops out next year, and so may the US.

Contrary to the belief of Canadians, we weren't intending to stay there forever.

It just seems odd that canada is the only major country, out of the countries that didn't have big money deals with Saddam, that never invaded Iraq.

 

[Blackleaf]

those nations involved were COERCED....... bribed or threatened......

Yeah? Britain, Australia, Poland, Spain and Italy were never threatened by the US.

 

[no1important]

RE: INVASION & OCCUPATION

Well we could send peace keepers once the Bush crime family pulls troops out, until then, no thanks.

It was an illegal invasion and occupation based on bush lies. I am proud we are having no part of this crime against humanity that the Bush Crime Family started all on false pretences and lies.

BUsh and all leaders that sent troops and military officers should be arrested to stand trial for War Crimes and Crimes against Humanity.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

It just seems odd that canada is the only major country, out of the countries that didn't have big money deals with Saddam, that never invaded Iraq.

not odd at all. We asked the bushcon for PROOF of his statements about those WMD that posed such an immediate threat to the US and world at large.........and the bushidiot said he did not have to provide proof.......and that we ......like lemings should just go on his lying word.....

so we said NO. Bush the child got pouty and made all kinds of threats to Canada and has been jerking Canada around since. Bushie just hates being told no.......as then he just can't have HIS way....... :evil:

Cretien may have had his faults.........but he is a "hero" for not involving Canada in the bush insanity (Iraq)

 

[Jo Canadian]

Re: RE: INVASION & OCCUPATION stop calling it a war!

those nations involved were COERCED....... bribed or threatened......

Yeah? Britain, Australia, Poland, Spain and Italy were never threatened by the US.

:roll: Yeah, but they also forgot to mention the Brownnosing factor. If you make friends with the guy with the big stick he might not hit you, plus you might get leftovers if you're on his good side.

 

[#juan]

It just seems odd that canada is the only major country, out of the countries that didn't have big money deals with Saddam, that never invaded Iraq.

The war, and it was a war, waged on a small country mainly, by two major countries. It was also unprovoked, illegal, and immoral. Canada was under great pressure to join the war in Iraq but we made the right choice and stayed away from that abortion. I'm sure that most foreign soldiers in Iraq wish they were somewhere else, like home.

 

[Ocean Breeze]

Re: RE: INVASION & OCCUPATION stop calling it a war!

those nations involved were COERCED....... bribed or threatened......

Yeah? Britain, Australia, Poland, Spain and Italy were never threatened by the US.

didn't say they were all "threatened" .......but they sure were .....er......convinced or coerced. It was the bushregimes idea .......and they went around convincing others to join them so it would at least have the appearance of a legal "coalition" Remember bush and blair meeting on some private island somewhere to hammer out the details......???

this has been the most criminal /convoluted situation in history