Alito Nomination May Bring Long-Anticipated Judiciary Fight

Nascar_James

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It'll be interesting to see how the Democrats will approach Alito during the Confirmation hearings. Will they try and stall his appointment to the bench? Don't matter as this judge's record speaks for itself. He was initially unanimously confirmed by the Senate for the court of appeals. Considering that the Democrats are outnumbered by the Republicans in Congress, Alito will no doubt get confirmed.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,174078,00.html

Alito Nomination May Bring Long-Anticipated Judiciary Fight
Tuesday, November 01, 2005
By Jane Roh

Just hours after President Bush nominated federal Judge Samuel Alito to the U.S. Supreme Court on Monday, partisan warriors on Capitol Hill began preparing for a looming dogfight over the conservative jurist.

In anticipation of what the White House hopes will be December confirmation hearings, Democratic lawmakers braced themselves for battle as a chorus of hallelujahs rang out from the religious right.

"This is a needlessly provocative nomination," said ranking Senate Judiciary Committee Democrat Patrick Leahy of Vermont. "Instead of uniting the country through his choice, the president has chosen to reward one faction of his party at the risk of dividing the country."

"Any nominee who so worries the radical left is worthy of serious consideration," countered James Dobson, founder of Focus on the Family.

Within hours of the president's nomination, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist began pushing for confirmation hearings to be held before the Senate adjourns for its winter recess.

"I wanted to formally welcome the judge to a process that will play out here over the next several days and next several weeks as we work up to an up-or-down vote for this outstanding nominee," Frist said during a morning photo-op with Alito. "Over a period of the next several weeks, we will gather the papers for, have hearings and then move toward that up-or-down vote on the floor of the Senate."

But Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, whose consent on timing will be necessary if Republicans hope to get any Democratic support, sought to slow down the accelerating snowball.

"I think it's very unlikely that we'll be able to do hearings by the end of December. We're not going to be rushed into anything," Reid said late Monday.

Democrats are going to need some time to gather any opposition they want to muster, since lawmakers are unlikely to be able to oppose the 15-year 3rd Circuit Court of Appeals judge on his intellectual heft.

"Judge Alito brings with him a very extensive record, a so-called paper trail. He guestimates that he has decided or was involved in the decisions of some 250 cases a year over 15 years. That would add up to 3,750 cases. He estimates that he has some 300 opinions. That's a fair amount of work to review," said Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa.

The 55-year-old judge has the respect of judiciary colleagues across the political spectrum. And while Bush's previous choice to replace retiring Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, White House Counsel Harriet Miers, was slammed by the right as underqualified and an unknown quantity, questions of competence and agility with constitutional conundrums are not likely to dog the judge.

And as it went with Chief Justice John Roberts, Alito's legal acumen is expected to dazzle during his confirmation hearings, fans said.

"He will impress everyone with his intelligence, his experience and with the kind of person he is," said Katherine Pringle, a partner at New York's Friedman Kaplan Seiler & Adelman LLP who clerked for Alito in 1993-1994. "He's not a shouter. He will take the time to answer everyone's questions and to address people's concerns."

"We've got John Roberts, a brilliant man. We've got Antonin Scalia, a brilliant judge. And now with this new selection ... he's a brilliant judge," Pat Robertson of the Christian Broadcast Network told FOX News. "The conservatives are going to have intellectual firepower that's going to last for decades."

That being the case, the brewing battle over Alito's nomination is sure to hinge on matters of ideology — and with the looming midterm elections, the confirmation process could well be one of the most vicious in years.

"The question will be is he too conservative or not. Let there be no mistake about it: he is very, very conservative," said defense attorney Lawrence Lustberg, who has argued before Alito in the 3rd Circuit and praised him as "thoughtful and generous."

But perhaps even more difficult for Democrats, those who know Alito say that the nickname "Scalito," a slight meant to link the judge to his former boss, Justice Scalia, doesn't really fit.

"He will be a consistent and strong conservative voice on the Supreme Court. That said, he's very respectful of colleagues and other points of view. He's someone who deals carefully with each issue that faces him, as opposed to someone who comes to the court with a particular agenda," Pringle said. "I think he is conservative but not out of the mainstream. I don't see him as an ideologue like Antonin Scalia or Clarence Thomas."

In addition, Alito has gone both ways on abortion cases. Pro-choice Democrats and women's groups expressed concern over the judge's lone argument that a spousal-notification provision should have been upheld in 1991's Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

On the other hand, in 2000, Alito joined the majority opinion in striking down a New Jersey ban on late-term abortions. Alito wrote in a concurring opinion that he was bound by Supreme Court precedent to vote against the ban, which did not include an exception for the mother's health.

"He's clearly been in cases where the results are ones that strongly progressive liberals don't like, but there are an equal number of cases where he applies the same methodology and gets results progressive liberals will be very comfortable with," said former clerk Clark Lombardi, who teaches at the University of Washington School of Law.

Late Monday, Specter said he was assured by Alito that the nominee values stare decisis, or letting precedent stand, and backs the right to privacy under the Liberty clause of the U.S. Constitution as cited in Griswold v. Connecticut.

Alito views precedent on "a sliding scale, and that the longer the decision was in effect and the more times that it had been reaffirmed by different courts, different justices appointed by different presidents, it adds extra-precedential value," Specter said.

Unless Alito has skeletons in his closet, some Democrats may find themselves having nothing to vote against, say court observers.

"I think they'll have a difficult time getting a filibuster. You have to be realistic here," said Jay Sekulow, chief counsel of the conservative American Center for Law and Justice, noting that Alito was unanimously confirmed by the Senate for the court of appeals.

"He is very, very well respected. So there is no 'extraordinary circumstance' here," Sekulow said, referring to the Gang of 14 compromise by which member senators may vote along party lines to filibuster a judicial nominee.

The Gang of 14, or "Mod Squad," is the group of seven Democratic and seven Republican moderate senators formed last spring to broker a deal to avoid the "nuclear option" that would ban the use of judicial filibusters.

An aide to Sen. Lincoln Chafee, a member of the Gang of 14, indicated the pro-choice Rhode Island Republican would approach Alito's nomination cautiously.

"Since we are replacing a swing vote, Chafee is going to look at this in a different way than when we replaced [late Chief Justice William] Rehnquist," spokesman Stephen Hourahan said. "The senator will have to take a long look at where [Alito] comes down. That’s where the Gang of 14 will play a pivotal role."

But Chafee's Gang of 14 colleague, Sen. Mike DeWine, said that he and others would be willing to break from the pack and go for the nuclear option if a filibuster were threatened by Democrats.

"I just have not seen anything so far that would make me believe this is even close to those 'extraordinary circumstances' that our group envisioned when we talked about the justification for a filibuster," said the Ohio Republican, who is up for re-election in 2006. "If it does, people like Lindsay Graham and I, who are part of that group, will be willing to vote to change the rules of the Senate so we do not have a filibuster."'

Aides said the gang would meet Thursday morning in Arizona Republican Sen. John McCain's office.

While little doubt exists that Alito is to the right of O'Connor, a key swing vote on abortion, affirmative action and the establishment clause, it may be hard for opponents to cast the debate over Alito as one of moderation and restraint versus religious ideology and extremism.

"It was the intellectual-movement conservatives that killed Miers' nomination," a Republican aide said of charges that Bush's pick was a triumph for the Christian right.

"George Will and those conservative intellectuals have been waiting for this moment," the aide added, speaking on condition of anonymity.

The conservative rebellion against Bush after Miers was nominated exposed fissures among the president and the party, but Alito's nomination seemed quickly to have brought establishment Republicans back together. And any gains Democrats made from the fractiousness no longer appeared meaningful or lasting.

"That's over with," Sekulow said of the Republican rift. "As soon as the president announced [Alito's nomination], you saw a unified base and uniform praise coming from all sectors within the Republican Party."

Still, Republicans may run into some problems during the confirmation process.

"For the Republicans to say it's not about ideology is going to sound hollow," said legal scholar Michael Gerhardt of the GOP's cry that it would be inappropriate to consider Alito's ideology and personal views.

"It sure sounded like ideology when it was Miers. Some Republican senators cannot say with a straight face that this is not about ideology. They opposed Miers because she seemed squishy on ideological terms," added Gerhardt, who teaches at UNC-Chapel Hill School of Law.

But Democrats remain outnumbered in Congress, and may have to accept that Alito's confirmation is one of the spoils of Bush's two election victories.

"Bush won and got re-elected, and the Senate got more Republicans. So this is a circumstance in which the Republican majority in the Senate and this president are going to try to cash in on what they set out to do," Gerhardt said.
 

Hank C Cheyenne

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.....yes it will be quite interesting to see what the democrats will do... I mean it will be hard to find something negative about Alito that they can vote against......hopefully a filibuster is not needed.

...I have to say Alito with his experience is a much better choice than Miers...and Bush has learned that that trying to please the left as well as the right is not easily done.
 

Nascar_James

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Absolutely Hank. No sense having a candidate who'll meet resistance on both sides. At least now on the Republican front we stand united.
 

Reverend Blair

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Alito actually supported requiring women to get the permission from their husbands before they could get an abortion. I'm sure if he would have had the chance he would have voted for bringing back a man's right to beat his wife if supper was late too.
 

Hank C Cheyenne

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Alito actually supported requiring women to get the permission from their husbands before they could get an abortion. I'm sure if he would have had the chance he would have voted for bringing back a man's right to beat his wife if supper was late too.
......so what, what makes it right to take the life of a child before it is born....this is nonsence, and if we are gonna be doing it then why shoulden't the husband, who has help create the child, have a say whether it is killed or not? Its funny how people like you defend killers and thugs who should be on death row, but you have no sympathy for unborn children....why is that?


....also Peapod in regards to your comments....have you the slightest knowledge of anything that is discussed on this forum? You seem to come up with your little smart remarks but have never contributed to a thread unless it is Bush speculation. I am begenning to think that you are on the lower end of the intelligence scale especially when compared to others on this forum.......

...I'm sorry to be rude but you seem to not be able to discuss any issue.....but it could be because you are young? I mean there are probably quite a few high school or elementary school students here....
 

mrmom2

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8O Ooooo don't we think were king shit :p Feck and i suppose your the smartest eh Hank :roll: Concieted motherfecker aren 't ya :roll:
 

Reverend Blair

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Hank is a moron, Mr. Mom. He just decided to personally attack a moderator because she dared to question his views on abortion. He thinks that women need the permission of a man before they can make a decision about their own bodies. No doubt he'd have all women in burkas if he had the chance.
 

mrmom2

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pretty strange shit for sure Rev .I just love these guys that think they can tell a woman to have a baby.Its not your fecking body ass face .How about i tell you to shove a hockey stick up your ass .You going to do it ? Feck grab a fecking brain
 

Hank C Cheyenne

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Ooooo don't we think were king shit Feck and i suppose your the smartest eh Hank Concieted motherfecker aren 't ya

...nope not at all....as a matter of fact I never said I was the smartest person.....

....and if you don't believe me about Peapod then feel free to scroll through threads that do not involve conspiracy theory's against Bush....go ahead

Hank is a moron, Mr. Mom. He just decided to personally attack a moderator because she dared to question his views on abortion.

.....ummm..actually I did not get to read any of Peapods views on abortion.....she was too busy attacking another member and making ridiculous statements....you know kinda like she does in every thread....lol
 

mrmom2

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You haven't been around here long Hank and Peas views on abortion are the same as mine who the feck do you think you are telling women what they can and can't do with their own bodys .How would you like it :roll:
 

Reverend Blair

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Hank:

If you would have bothered to pay any atention at all, you would have noticed that she posted a link on your nazi judge's record, or does that old 386 of yours not open PDF files?

If you'd taken the time to read any of the threads, you'd find that Pea has consitently posted pertinent links and taken an informed stand on abortion, something that you have shown incapable of doing.

Now piss off, troll boy.
 

peapod

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Well let put it this way...here is my view on abortion...mind your own feckin business! hows dat :wink: Now onward and forward.....comrades :lol: :lol: :lol:



Statement of U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer on the Nomination of Judge Samuel Alito to the Supreme Court

I believe this nomination is aimed at appeasing the most right wing elements of the President's political base, and in so doing the President turns his back on the hopes and dreams, and the rights and freedoms of the majority of the American People.

Judge Alito may be soft spoken but if many of his opinions had prevailed the hard reality of his views would have hurt our families.

Judge Alito has a record which includes opinions that would have undermined the rights of the American People, especially the rights of women, minorities and families.

Had the President simply asked Justice Sandra Day O'Connor to finish this term on the Court, he could have avoided a bruising battle and united the country, instead of once again dividing it.

It is especially ironic that at a time when all of America is honoring Rosa Parks that the President would send us a nominee whose decisions could jeopardize the principle of equality for all Americans.
 

Hank C Cheyenne

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....ok.....first of all I believe that once a woman is pregnant it is not only her body but the babies body as well....as it is entirely dependent on the body for survival.

....i jsut find it disturbing that abortions are performed up to a certain trimester then we say that after this time the baby is human and can't be aborted.....I just don't buy that.

.....the only abortion that is even moraly justifiable is one that occurs after a woman is impregnated through rape.....and even this is one that might cross the line...I mean why should the baby receive a death sentence for something he/she had no control of.

....and lastly I don't understand how you would prefer not to execute someone who has killed a human being....lets take the case of Rob Pickton, who has killed many many women.....could be as high a 60 murders.....but you support killing an unborn child? I just find that logic faulty.....
 

peapod

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uh huh...so now you gonna show me the fetus in the condom pic..you know the ones you "ethicial" :roll: :roll: lot like pull out for your drama queen antics. What I object to is the methods you neocons use. You make me sick. You people use lies, mis information, doctored pictures...whatever blunt tool you can find...mind you it has nothing to do with honesty. Than you gots the gall to pretend you have some high moral ground :twisted: Blah. I especially don't like the part where some of you hide in the bushes and shoot doctors in the back..
 

Reverend Blair

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This isn't an abortion thread, Hanky. We've had plenty of those...check the search feature out. Better check out Canada's abortion laws too...we leave it up to the woman who owns the body and the doctor who is working on the body. Nobody else has any business in the matter. If you think that it is others' business, then I suggest that you record you next prostate exam for broadcast over the internet.

Alito could well run into trouble with moderate Republicans ans well as Democrats. His anti-woman anti-minority stance will not play well with those who depend on a base not comprised of the reigious right.

While there aren't that many moderate Republicans left, they are an important part of both houses because they draw the swing voters not just for themselves, but for their colleagues and the president.
 

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Hank C Cheyenne said:
....ok.....first of all I believe that once a woman is pregnant it is not only her body but the babies body as well....as it is entirely dependent on the body for survival.

So if you believe this...would that give a woman the right to castrate the man after having an affair? He could very well bring a baby into the world that his signiificant other does not want. After all you are telling a woman what she can do with her body...isn't turnabout fair play.