L.Libby Charged , Has resigned
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RE: L.Libby Charged , Ha
Now it really begins. Rove is still under investigation. There is still a general feeling among many that the corruption goes all the way to the top. Libby is going to be looking for a plea bargain.
Now it really begins. Rove is still under investigation. There is still a general feeling among many that the corruption goes all the way to the top. Libby is going to be looking for a plea bargain.
...........and this is how the Washington game is played. Truth is treated like a pariah..........and is a casualty along with those that tell it.----or those that oppose the herrs that be.
RE: L.Libby Charged , Ha
Cheney could well get caught up in this before all is said and done. Libby has been Cheney's right-hand man since the last Bush administration so it is doubtful that Cheney didn't have at least suspect that Libby was involved in some way.
In addition to that, Cheney is facing charges of corporate corruption when he was at Halliburton and there are increasing questions about his continued involvement with that corporation. Similar, though far less serious, charges forced Spiro Agnew to resign as Nixon's VP.
The parallels to Nixon and the whole Watergate thing are growing. That started with people lower down the ladder being indicted as well.
Oddly enough, many of Bush's cabinet first worked in the White House during Nixon's presidency.
Cheney could well get caught up in this before all is said and done. Libby has been Cheney's right-hand man since the last Bush administration so it is doubtful that Cheney didn't have at least suspect that Libby was involved in some way.
In addition to that, Cheney is facing charges of corporate corruption when he was at Halliburton and there are increasing questions about his continued involvement with that corporation. Similar, though far less serious, charges forced Spiro Agnew to resign as Nixon's VP.
The parallels to Nixon and the whole Watergate thing are growing. That started with people lower down the ladder being indicted as well.
Oddly enough, many of Bush's cabinet first worked in the White House during Nixon's presidency.
maybe not so "oddly" after all. Could be part of the "design"... :wink:
(good crooks, liers and thieves are hard to find.. :wink:
Would bet anything that Cheney knew about this.....and is up to his greedy arse in this mess.
but we gotta remember that we are dealing with gang of professional liers.
It isn't whether he knew...he almost certainly did, as did Rove, Bush, and the rest of the cabinet. This kind of thing has been a strategy of theirs, especially Rove's, for a very long time. It is whether Libby gives them up and things come apart.
Yes, the parallels to Watergate are there, but the difference that exists, as I see it, is that during the Watergate investigation, NO ONE was dying as a result of the ransacking of the headquarters of the Democratic National Committee...
Joe Wilson tried to tell the truth about the misrepresentation of intelligence leading the US into war with Iraq...in response the administration outed his wife, who was an undercover CIA agent...placing both her life, and his, in jeopardy...and suppressing the truth that Wilson was trying to get out there...
So the US went to war, despite the lack of evidence to support their fudged intelligence...and more than 2000 American citizens have died as a result, and about 15,000 wounded, crippled, and maimed...add to that countless thousands of Iraqi civillians...who the hell knows how many insurgents...
Coalition countries that have followed the US into Iraq and lost soldiers of their own should be calling for Bush's head on a pike for this...
This is far, far worse than Watergate ever could have been...this is feckin' high treason, which, if I'm not mistaken, is still a capital offense in the US...
...and Bush, having signed all of those orders of execution as Governor of Texas, will get to taste the bitterness of karma in his last few moments before the end...
Joe Wilson tried to tell the truth about the misrepresentation of intelligence leading the US into war with Iraq...in response the administration outed his wife, who was an undercover CIA agent...placing both her life, and his, in jeopardy...and suppressing the truth that Wilson was trying to get out there...
So the US went to war, despite the lack of evidence to support their fudged intelligence...and more than 2000 American citizens have died as a result, and about 15,000 wounded, crippled, and maimed...add to that countless thousands of Iraqi civillians...who the hell knows how many insurgents...
Coalition countries that have followed the US into Iraq and lost soldiers of their own should be calling for Bush's head on a pike for this...
This is far, far worse than Watergate ever could have been...this is feckin' high treason, which, if I'm not mistaken, is still a capital offense in the US...
...and Bush, having signed all of those orders of execution as Governor of Texas, will get to taste the bitterness of karma in his last few moments before the end...
I'd say about 50/50 right now.
While the Bush regime's crimes are far more serious, the implications of what Nixon did should not be underplayed. He attempted to subvert democracy by committing a criminal act.
Nixon never had to answer for his more serious crimes in Vietnam and Cambodia. He never ended up facing the music for supporting Pinochet in Cuba.
Bush seems to have gotten off scot-free for his subversion of democracy (irregularites and criminality in his first election and questions about voting machines in the last one), but he could well face the music for his war crimes.
THAT would be ever so nice. Might restore some faith in humanity.........**and the justice system.
Ocean Breeze said:
I'd settle for a restoring of the faith in the US...I'm tired of bickering with the likes of Nascar_James, who knows he's wrong, but can't bring himself to admit it, because he voted the bastard in...
He won't do thirty years...the bastard will rat out the whole works...filthy bastards!!!! :wink:
RE: L.Libby Charged , Ha
He isn't really facing 30 years though...more like 5 to 10 and/or a fine realistically. Still, they turned on Nixon for reduced sentences. I say give him 5 and a fine if he gives up Rove, no time and a fine if he gives up Cheney and Rove, and not even a fine if he can drag Bush down too.
He isn't really facing 30 years though...more like 5 to 10 and/or a fine realistically. Still, they turned on Nixon for reduced sentences. I say give him 5 and a fine if he gives up Rove, no time and a fine if he gives up Cheney and Rove, and not even a fine if he can drag Bush down too.
would go with that one.. "Bring it on"...... and let's see how they tumble. Might yield a major crisis........but out of that crisis a better gov't nation might evolve........might......being the operative word.