What are American values?

GL Schmitt

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This post isn’t exactly politics, and it certainly isn’t war, but a reasoned examination of American Values from 1961. (When we had barely begun anguishing over what a uniquely Canadian character was.)

As a political football, American values have been getting a lot of play in the last decade, but other than as a catch phrase, it has seldom been defined.



What are American values?


An early study, based on an investigation into political speeches, was published in 1961 by Edward Steele and Charles Redding that identified a set of archetypical American values.


Puritan and pioneer morality

The world is made up of people who are good and bad, foul and fair. You are either one of the good guys or you are one of the bad guys. If you are not with us, you are against us.


Value of the individual

The individual has rights above that of general society and government. Success occurs at the level of the individual. People should not have to fight for their rights. The government should protect the rights of the individual, not the other way around.


Achievement and success

Success is measured by the accumulation of power, status, wealth and property. What you already have is not as important as what you continue to accumulate. A retired wealthy person was successful, but is now less admirable.


Change and progress

Change is inevitable. Progress is good and leads to success. If you do not keep up, you will fall behind. Newer is always better. The next version will be better than the last.


Ethical equality

All people are equal, both spiritually and in the opportunities they deserve. This includes differences in race, gender, disability, age, sexual preference and so on.


Effort and optimism

Hard work and striving is the key to success. The great American Dream of fame and fortune comes to those who work hard and never give up.


Efficiency, practicality and pragmatism

Solution is more important than ideology. Utility is more important than show. A key question to any idea is 'Will it work?'





Are these American values still apparent?


Values change very little. If you think they do, then this may give you an insight into how to communicate effectively with Americans. If you embody these values, they are more likely to look up to you. If you appeal to these values, they are likely to buy into your message.


If you think this is a damn fine set of values, they are probably your values — and maybe you are an American (or at least you will easily agree with a lot of Americans).


Steele, E.D. and Redding, W.C. (1962). The American Value System: Premises for Persuasion, Western Speech, 26, 83-91
 

PoisonPete2

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more like:
Lie, cheat and steal, but keep some aside for a good lawyer.
Cut the other guy's throat because he may be planning to cut yours.
You snooze you lose.
I don't get even. I get stabby.
Winning means never having to say you're sorry.
History is written by the victors.
My way or the hiway.
Sharing? That's Communism.

I could go on and on but these bits are drawn from popular American culture and speak for themselves.
 

gopher

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Traditional American values have not been lost on most of the American people. This is why the Zogby and exit polls in November all indicated that the majority of Americans indicated that they would vote for Kerry. Furthermore, every poll that is being taken nowadays clearly show that the majority of Americans oppose Bush's criminally treasonous war in Iraq.

Most of us work hard, pay our taxes, enjoy sports and leisure, and condemn Bush's stupid war.



!!!TOPPLE BUSH NOW!!!
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: What are American val

Yet Bush won the last election, Gopher. I agree with you that many Americans still believe in the values that made your country great, but you've got a ruling class that knows how to manipulate either election results or the population so that those who do not represent those values remain in charge. I'm not at all convinced that Kerry would have been much better than Bush, either.

We have a similar problem up here. Both our PM and the leader of the official opposition represent things that are not really good for Canada but are good for multinational business interests.
 

jjw1965

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Bush and Kerry are two sides of the same coin. both following the agenda of the gansters that are really in charge.
 

Nascar_James

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- American values is fighting for freedom and willing to pay a price
to achieve freedom.
- American values is patriotism.
- American values is believing in inventiveness, entrepreneurship,
and human initiative, opposing taxes that hinder production and
strongly opposing welfare handouts.
- American values is believing in the special preciousness of human
life including unborn babies.
- American values is strongly supporting the right to privacy, not
wanting government collecting information about individuals and
opposes laws that criminalize victimless private behavior.
- American values is a nation under God.
- American values is equlity for all regardless of race.
- American values is showing no mercy for those in our society
guilty of the worst crimes (murder, crimes against children).
 

TenPenny

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Nascar_James said:
- American values is fighting for freedom and willing to pay a price
to achieve freedom.
- American values is patriotism.
- American values is believing in inventiveness, entrepreneurship,
and human initiative, opposing taxes that hinder production and
strongly opposing welfare handouts.
- American values is believing in the special preciousness of human
life including unborn babies.
- American values is strongly supporting the right to privacy, not
wanting government collecting information about individuals and
opposes laws that criminalize victimless private behavior.
- American values is a nation under God.
- American values is equlity for all regardless of race.
- American values is showing no mercy for those in our society
guilty of the worst crimes (murder, crimes against children).

So, it's freedom as long as you believe in God.
The right to privacy except when the gov't is doing something (because if you disagreed with the gov't, that's not patriotism)
Show no mercy for those guilty of the worst crimes, unless it's the govt
 

Nascar_James

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TenPenny said:
Nascar_James said:
- American values is fighting for freedom and willing to pay a price
to achieve freedom.
- American values is patriotism.
- American values is believing in inventiveness, entrepreneurship,
and human initiative, opposing taxes that hinder production and
strongly opposing welfare handouts.
- American values is believing in the special preciousness of human
life including unborn babies.
- American values is strongly supporting the right to privacy, not
wanting government collecting information about individuals and
opposes laws that criminalize victimless private behavior.
- American values is a nation under God.
- American values is equlity for all regardless of race.
- American values is showing no mercy for those in our society
guilty of the worst crimes (murder, crimes against children).

So, it's freedom as long as you believe in God.
The right to privacy except when the gov't is doing something (because if you disagreed with the gov't, that's not patriotism)
Show no mercy for those guilty of the worst crimes, unless it's the govt

The US is a nation under God as outlined in the Pledge of Allegiance. The Pledge of Allegiance is a promise or oath of allegiance to the United States, and to its national flag. It is commonly recited in unison at public events, and especially in public school classrooms, where the Pledge is often a morning ritual. In its present form, the words of the Pledge are:

I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America , and to the Republic for which it stands, one Nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. (36 U.S.C. § 172)

Canada should consider a similar pledge considering many folks there have lost their faith. When I was growing up there, many attended church weekly, nowadays many of the churches in some Canadian cities are empty.

In regards to your comments on the right to privacy and the gov'nt doing something, I stated "not wanting government collecting information about individuals". All rules have exceptions. The exception to this rule would be when the information collected is a matter of national security.

Your last statement, "Show no mercy for those guilty of the worst crimes, unless it's the govt", if individuals within the government commit the worst of crimes like murder, then the rules would apply to them as well, they should also be brought to justice. No one is above the law.
 

bulldog

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Nascar_James said:
- American values is fighting for freedom and willing to pay a price
to achieve freedom.
- American values is patriotism.
- American values is believing in inventiveness, entrepreneurship,
and human initiative, opposing taxes that hinder production and
strongly opposing welfare handouts.
- American values is believing in the special preciousness of human
life including unborn babies.
- American values is strongly supporting the right to privacy, not
wanting government collecting information about individuals and
opposes laws that criminalize victimless private behavior.
- American values is a nation under God.
- American values is equlity for all regardless of race.
- American values is showing no mercy for those in our society
guilty of the worst crimes (murder, crimes against children).

Hey, James - we follow Nascar too! We went to Orlando in July, and our daughter is going to Fontana over Labor Day.

Your list of American values is not exactly how I would have described it, but it's close enough for government work. LOVE
Oklahoma. Good looking people.

It's funny you should combine American values and Nascar, because I have often thought that if anyone (Canadian or otherwise), could stand in a Nascar crowd and sing the national anthem - look around and feel the spirit- it pretty much explains what the American value system is all about. It's almost palpable.

Bull Dog
 

Nascar_James

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bulldog said:
Nascar_James said:
- American values is fighting for freedom and willing to pay a price
to achieve freedom.
- American values is patriotism.
- American values is believing in inventiveness, entrepreneurship,
and human initiative, opposing taxes that hinder production and
strongly opposing welfare handouts.
- American values is believing in the special preciousness of human
life including unborn babies.
- American values is strongly supporting the right to privacy, not
wanting government collecting information about individuals and
opposes laws that criminalize victimless private behavior.
- American values is a nation under God.
- American values is equlity for all regardless of race.
- American values is showing no mercy for those in our society
guilty of the worst crimes (murder, crimes against children).

Hey, James - we follow Nascar too! We went to Orlando in July, and our daughter is going to Fontana over Labor Day.

Your list of American values is not exactly how I would have described it, but it's close enough for government work. LOVE
Oklahoma. Good looking people.

It's funny you should combine American values and Nascar, because I have often thought that if anyone (Canadian or otherwise), could stand in a Nascar crowd and sing the national anthem - look around and feel the spirit- it pretty much explains what the American value system is all about. It's almost palpable.

Bull Dog

Good analysis Bull Dog. Your description of American Values pretty much describes what mainstream America is all about.

As for Nascar racing, there will never be another driver the likes of Dale Earnhardt (God rest his soul), however Jeff Gordon is a good driver and has been around the Nascar racing circuit for about 13 years or so.
 

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Bulldog said:
It's funny you should combine American values and Nascar, because I have often thought that if anyone (Canadian or otherwise), could stand in a Nascar crowd and sing the national anthem - look around and feel the spirit- it pretty much explains what the American value system is all about. It's almost palpable.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :laughing3: :lol: :lol:
 

Reverend Blair

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RE: What are American val

So the entire US is a cult? Or just those that go to NASCAR races?

The "One nation under god" part of the (lemon) Pledge of Allegiance was added later. It was not part of the original pledge.

As for Canadians needing to find their faith....a real nation populated by real people does not have to depend on the benevolence of some invisible man in the sky.
 

bulldog

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Reverend Blair said:
So the entire US is a cult? Or just those that go to NASCAR races?

The "One nation under god" part of the (lemon) Pledge of Allegiance was added later. It was not part of the original pledge.

As for Canadians needing to find their faith....a real nation populated by real people does not have to depend on the benevolence of some invisible man in the sky.

If you'd use your noggin, Rev, where else do you find 200,000 Americans gathered on a regular scheduled basis? Ahem, but when and where would you find 200,000 Canadians gathered on a regular scheduled basis for a comparison?

Bull Dog
 

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bulldog said:
Reverend Blair said:
So the entire US is a cult? Or just those that go to NASCAR races?

The "One nation under god" part of the (lemon) Pledge of Allegiance was added later. It was not part of the original pledge.

As for Canadians needing to find their faith....a real nation populated by real people does not have to depend on the benevolence of some invisible man in the sky.

If you'd use your noggin, Rev, where else do you find 200,000 Americans gathered on a regular scheduled basis? Ahem, but when and where would you find 200,000 Canadians gathered on a regular scheduled basis for a comparison?

Bull Dog

At a protest vigil for Marc Emery, of course...Where else. If it is church you're thinking of...Try Quebec...The catholiciest (iiee!) of the Catholics
 

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Re: RE: What are American val

bulldog said:
Reverend Blair said:
So the entire US is a cult? Or just those that go to NASCAR races?

The "One nation under god" part of the (lemon) Pledge of Allegiance was added later. It was not part of the original pledge.

As for Canadians needing to find their faith....a real nation populated by real people does not have to depend on the benevolence of some invisible man in the sky.

If you'd use your noggin, Rev, where else do you find 200,000 Americans gathered on a regular scheduled basis? Ahem, but when and where would you find 200,000 Canadians gathered on a regular scheduled basis for a comparison?

Bull Dog

I love riddles. Where?