Patriot Act (US) -"permanant"
- Thread starter Ocean Breeze
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Exactly! to all of The Americans that think the Patriot Act isn't that bad, maybe you should take the time to read it for yourself, especially the part that defines domestic terrorist!http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?c107:./temp/~c107blARtw
RE: Patriot Act (US) -"pe
it's kind of cool to watch a superpower become a failed state, isn't it?
it's kind of cool to watch a superpower become a failed state, isn't it?
Re: RE: Patriot Act (US) -"pe
Indeed. .......along with watching many not SEE what is happening in their own back yard. when their blinders come off.....watch the blame game begin..
Reverend Blair said:
Indeed. .......along with watching many not SEE what is happening in their own back yard. when their blinders come off.....watch the blame game begin..
not directly related......but relevant to the whole deterioration process.
Trouble in the "free" land.
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0801-24.htm
Trouble in the "free" land.
http://www.commondreams.org/views05/0801-24.htm
Re: RE: Patriot Act (US) -"pe
It's even better observing those who actually believe in it.
Reverend Blair said:
It's even better observing those who actually believe in it.
Re: RE: Patriot Act (US) -"pe
No, seeing what you think is a failed state makes me wonder of your intelligence level. It is rather funny though. Keep it up.
Reverend Blair said:
No, seeing what you think is a failed state makes me wonder of your intelligence level. It is rather funny though. Keep it up.
Re: RE: Patriot Act (US) -"pe
or maybe it is making him happy.( and cozy safe) Wonder if he feels "safer" now :?
Amazing the number of liberties a gov't can take under the guise of security.....particularly when said gov't fosters the conditions that require so much "security" now. The US(G) has been pissing the world off for some time now. result : a formation of extremist terrorist groups who are expressing their rage at the unfairness with with the USG treats the world /ME etc. Terrorist acts become the order of the day, and the US(G) blames the terrorists for being angry at the US(G) .....and its affiliates. Cycle of violence continues to perpetuate and neither party will distance themselves long enough to see how all this evolved. Just as one cannot (??) "negotiate" with the terrorists......one cannot negotiate with the USG. Both parties are headstrong and stubborn and carry the flag of PRIDE in their endeavors. Mind you , terrorism has become a "cover" for other agenda that the USG is pushing forward. In fact it offers them carte blanche. and grabbing more control and power is the theme of the day.
Reverend Blair said:
or maybe it is making him happy.( and cozy safe) Wonder if he feels "safer" now :?
Amazing the number of liberties a gov't can take under the guise of security.....particularly when said gov't fosters the conditions that require so much "security" now. The US(G) has been pissing the world off for some time now. result : a formation of extremist terrorist groups who are expressing their rage at the unfairness with with the USG treats the world /ME etc. Terrorist acts become the order of the day, and the US(G) blames the terrorists for being angry at the US(G) .....and its affiliates. Cycle of violence continues to perpetuate and neither party will distance themselves long enough to see how all this evolved. Just as one cannot (??) "negotiate" with the terrorists......one cannot negotiate with the USG. Both parties are headstrong and stubborn and carry the flag of PRIDE in their endeavors. Mind you , terrorism has become a "cover" for other agenda that the USG is pushing forward. In fact it offers them carte blanche. and grabbing more control and power is the theme of the day.
How is "permanent" a part of this result?
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4765076
If anyone can read "permanent" into this, they are having magical moments again.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4765076
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If anyone can read "permanent" into this, they are having magical moments again.
Wednesday's Child said:
nothing is really "permanant". (nothing lasts forever). Heck ,even the constitution is not "permanant". Now, will it take on a life of its own and stay a protracted period of time.?......that is the question. Will be interesting to see the impact over a prolonged period of time.
Ocean Breeze
My point exactly - a bit nit picky of me true!
Extension of soon to expire articles hardly means permanent however - and as you say nothing is permanent - even the Constitution if they wish to revise the 22nd Amendment to extend
the terms of office.
My point exactly - a bit nit picky of me true!
Extension of soon to expire articles hardly means permanent however - and as you say nothing is permanent - even the Constitution if they wish to revise the 22nd Amendment to extend
the terms of office.
Wednesday's Child said:
hi WC. this is why I used quotation marks around the word "permanant" when I started this thread. :wink:
Hmmm...what makes up a failed state? Massive debt owed to foreign powers, deep political divisions, a lack of a free press, human rights abuses, repressive laws, the removal of rights, criminal behaviour by leaders, isolation from other other countries. Those lead to a failure of the economy and civil war.
You aren't too far away from those right now, ITN. You've got the massive debt; the deep political divisions; your mainstream press is controlled by seven corporations who refuse to report negative stories about your government; the repressive laws and removal of rights; your leaders are domestic and international criminals; and the policies of those leaders have caused you to become isolated from the rest of the world.
I never said the process was complete, but if you don't turn things around down there, things will fall apart.
Ocean Breeze
Do you ever wish we could shuffle the deck every four years and clean house if we wanted to?
Do you ever wish we could shuffle the deck every four years and clean house if we wanted to?
