Score One for Humanity
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Just as I thought; everyone here is so f-ing obsessed with Shrub, you couldn't bother to think about a million or so dead Africans.
Let's go talk about GWB some more, shall we?
Jeeez.
Let's go talk about GWB some more, shall we?
Jeeez.
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glad you started a thread for the African situation. Let's see how it develops ......
(with due respect, but if bush was not in the world' s face to the degree that he is.....and had not started an illegal war based on fictional excuses.........he would not be worthy of the paper his name is printed on.--------and would render hardly a ripple discussion wise)
TenPenny said:
glad you started a thread for the African situation. Let's see how it develops ......
(with due respect, but if bush was not in the world' s face to the degree that he is.....and had not started an illegal war based on fictional excuses.........he would not be worthy of the paper his name is printed on.--------and would render hardly a ripple discussion wise)
Never mind shipping him back home :x That asshole should be shipped straight to the Hague and tried for crimes against humanity :evil:
Because suckers (sorry, I mean well qualified defense lawyers) were well paid to make it seem like what he said wasn't what he said....I think we should allow Romeo Dallaire to personally escort him back to face the music....but I don't think Dallaire has the stomach for it anymore.
(I read Shake Hands With the Devil. If you haven't read it, I think it should be required reading. For everyone.)
(I read Shake Hands With the Devil. If you haven't read it, I think it should be required reading. For everyone.)
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this book???
http://www.randomhouse.ca/readmag/volume4issue2/excerpts/aboutshakehandswiththedevil.htm
looks interesting. (thx)
TenPenny said:
this book???
http://www.randomhouse.ca/readmag/volume4issue2/excerpts/aboutshakehandswiththedevil.htm
looks interesting. (thx)
Well Tenpenny, glad you're looking around and seeing something else going on.
By the way, Bush the Darth Vader of the Globe, is the first American President to dwarf the world's contribution of money for AIDS in Africa.
Geldorf and Bono who are doing a good job of keeping Africa on the radar got more out of Bush than they did with most of Europe and more out of Bush than they did with Clinton.
If you compare percentages of GDP you really don't realize how small the TOTAL contribution the world makes ---- that's why a lot of Euro countries like to just compare percentages of GDP for their foreign aid output -------------a pitiful scant amount compared to the value opened up by global free trade, private charity
By the way, Bush the Darth Vader of the Globe, is the first American President to dwarf the world's contribution of money for AIDS in Africa.
Geldorf and Bono who are doing a good job of keeping Africa on the radar got more out of Bush than they did with most of Europe and more out of Bush than they did with Clinton.
If you compare percentages of GDP you really don't realize how small the TOTAL contribution the world makes ---- that's why a lot of Euro countries like to just compare percentages of GDP for their foreign aid output -------------a pitiful scant amount compared to the value opened up by global free trade, private charity
RE: Score One for Humanit
It is an interesting book, if hard to read in places.
One of the reasons it took ten years to get Mugesera deported is that everybody was being very careful to cross every t and dot every i. This was a precedent setting case that will make it easier to deport or prosecute others like Mugesera in the future and it was very important that the right precedent be set.
It is an interesting book, if hard to read in places.
One of the reasons it took ten years to get Mugesera deported is that everybody was being very careful to cross every t and dot every i. This was a precedent setting case that will make it easier to deport or prosecute others like Mugesera in the future and it was very important that the right precedent be set.
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very good point rev. The time factor would be less important than getting it done properly.....
Reverend Blair said:
very good point rev. The time factor would be less important than getting it done properly.....
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Especially after the way we screwed first by ignoring what Ed Broabent's team said about Mugesera's role in the run-up to the genocide, and then by letting him into the country in the first place.
Especially after the way we screwed first by ignoring what Ed Broabent's team said about Mugesera's role in the run-up to the genocide, and then by letting him into the country in the first place.
Yep, I agree and find your reaction measured and certainly not the knee jerk reaction a lot of conservatives have in their frustration at government not doing its job of security.
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...and that embarrassing Air India incident...
Reverend Blair said:
...and that embarrassing Air India incident...
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Yes, very, very hard to read. It took me quite a while; some times I had to put it down for a couple of days. I firmly believe that all politicians and all members of the armed forces should be required to read it. I wonder if any of the leaders of the federal parties has read it? We should ask them.
Reverend Blair said:
Yes, very, very hard to read. It took me quite a while; some times I had to put it down for a couple of days. I firmly believe that all politicians and all members of the armed forces should be required to read it. I wonder if any of the leaders of the federal parties has read it? We should ask them.
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I found it hard, and I already knew most of it through watching Dallaire's speeches on CPAC etc.
I'm pretty sure that Jack Layton has read it. I doubt Martin has read it, but I think Romeo has likely given him a copy or two. I don't think Harper knows how to read.
I found it hard, and I already knew most of it through watching Dallaire's speeches on CPAC etc.
I'm pretty sure that Jack Layton has read it. I doubt Martin has read it, but I think Romeo has likely given him a copy or two. I don't think Harper knows how to read.
"I'm pretty sure that Jack Layton has read it. I doubt Martin has read it, but I think Romeo has likely given him a copy or two. I don't think Harper knows how to read. "
Maybe I'll send them all an email, and ask them. They can have some staffer write some sort of reply. Keep all those poly sci students busy for a while, anyway.
Maybe I'll send them all an email, and ask them. They can have some staffer write some sort of reply. Keep all those poly sci students busy for a while, anyway.
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Yeah, I know that one. I haven't managed to get more than halfway through it in the twelve months since I bought it. It's so disheartening, and just plain old sad. Somehow it seems appropriate to mention here that I've just been playing some old albums from my youth, and as I began to read this thread Peter Paul & Mary came into my headphones singing "Wasn't That a Time." The last verse goes like this:
The wars are long
The peace is frail
The madmen come again
There is no freedom in a land
Where fear and hate prevail
Isn't this a time
A time to try the souls of men
Isn't this a terrible time.
So it's nice to see some good news. Score one for humanity indeed. Good one TenPenny, thanks, you've brightened my day.
Reverend Blair said:
Yeah, I know that one. I haven't managed to get more than halfway through it in the twelve months since I bought it. It's so disheartening, and just plain old sad. Somehow it seems appropriate to mention here that I've just been playing some old albums from my youth, and as I began to read this thread Peter Paul & Mary came into my headphones singing "Wasn't That a Time." The last verse goes like this:
The wars are long
The peace is frail
The madmen come again
There is no freedom in a land
Where fear and hate prevail
Isn't this a time
A time to try the souls of men
Isn't this a terrible time.
So it's nice to see some good news. Score one for humanity indeed. Good one TenPenny, thanks, you've brightened my day.
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The staffers getting back to you generally rate in about the same order as I rated the likelihood of the leaders having read the book. I find it's helpful if you let them know that you are asking the other leaders them same question.
let me know how you make out.
The staffers getting back to you generally rate in about the same order as I rated the likelihood of the leaders having read the book. I find it's helpful if you let them know that you are asking the other leaders them same question.
let me know how you make out.