Pre-War Memo: 'US Lacks Plan for Post-War Iraq'

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Rigging evidence is old hat for the Bush Administration, they even lie to themselves.

How else do you think Shock & Awe got approved.


Millennium Challenge 02

Millennium Challenge 2002 (MC02) brought together both live field exercises and computer simulation July 24-Aug. 15, 2002. Sponsored by U.S. Joint Forces Command (USJFCOM), MC02 focused on how a U.S. explores the military's ability to conduct Rapid Decisive Operations (RDO) against a determined adversary.

MC02 represented a critical building block of future military transformation.

MC02 will incorporate elements of all military services, most functional/regional commands and many DoD organizations and federal agencies. The Secretary of Defense has directed that participants involve elements representative of their future force concepts such as the Air Force's Expeditionary Aerospace Force, the Army's medium-weight brigades and the Navy's "Forward From the Sea" vision.
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Ex-General: War Game Rigged

A retired general who commanded "enemy" forces in a recently concluded $250 million U.S. war game says the exercise was rigged so that it appeared to validate new war-fighting concepts it was supposed to test.

Paul Van Riper, who headed the Marine Corps Combat Development Command when he retired in 1997 as a three-star general, said he became so frustrated with undue constraints on his command of "enemy" forces that he quit the role midway through Millennium Challenge 2002, which ended Aug. 15.

His complaints were reported yesterday by the Army Times, a private newspaper that covers Army issues. The Times obtained a copy of an e-mail Van Riper sent to colleagues explaining why he had quit.

"It was in actuality an exercise that was almost entirely scripted to ensure a Blue [friendly forces] 'win,' " he wrote. Van Riper was in command of the Red force, meant to simulate the enemy.
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War-Gamed

Why the Army shouldn't be so surprised by Saddam's moves.
by Fred Kaplan
Friday, March 28, 2003


Much has been made of Thursday's remark by Lt. Gen. William Wallace, commander of U.S. Army forces in the Persian Gulf. Talking about the fierce and guerrilla-style resistance of Iraqi militia groups, Wallace said, "The enemy we're fighting is a bit different than the one we war-gamed against."

In fact, however, militia fighters did play a crucial role in a major war game designed to simulate combat in Iraq—but the Pentagon officials who managed the game simply disregarded or overruled the militias' most devastating moves.

The war game, which was called Millennium Challenge 02, took place over three weeks last July and August. Planned over a two-year period, at a cost of $250 million, the game involved 13,500 personnel from all four services—Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines—who waged mock war in 17 simulation locations and nine live-force training sites. The scenario envisioned a war in a fictitiously named Persian Gulf country that resembled Iraq.

The objective was to test (and, if all went well, to validate) a set of new combat theories based less on massive force and more on speed, agility, highly accurate weapons, and supremely coordinated command and control. These theories—known as "military transformation" and "effects-based operations"—would serve as the underlying strategy of the real war against the real Iraq that's happening now.

Officially, the war game was a great success; the theories were proven sound. However, on Aug. 12, as the game was winding to a close, a retired three-star U.S. Marine Corps general named Paul Van Riper wrote an e-mail to some of his friends, casting grave doubt on this conclusion.

Pentagon war games pit "Red Force" (simulating the enemy) against "Blue Force" (the United States). In this war game, as in many war games over the years, Van Riper played the Red Force commander. In his e-mail (which was promptly leaked to the Army Times then picked up, though in much less detail, by the Guardian and the Washington Post), Van Riper complained about Millennium Challenge 02, writing that, "Instead of a free-play, two-sided game … it simply became a scripted exercise." The conduct of the game did not allow "for the concepts of rapid decisive operations, effects-based operations, or operational net assessment to be properly assessed. … It was in actuality an exercise that was almost entirely scripted to ensure a Blue 'win.' "
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Whitehouse rejects Iraq pullout.

No surprise. :roll:

Not sure the US really needs a "plan for post -war " Iraq.......as don't think the US has any intentions of leaving Iraq anyhow. Don't think a protracted "war" is much of a concern for them as they continue to build the military bases, run the gov't from behind the scenes , have major US companies do the reconstruction of what the US destroyed.---and "control" the natural resources there. In this case it APPEARS that the US is prepared to pay in megabucks and in considerable human lives to get a strong hold in the ME. Today Iraq........and from Iraq they can then be in a better geographical position to keep Iran, Syria etc under closer watch and "control". They US will not surrender Iraq back to Iraq ......as now the US feels they have "earned" the right to be there, and "control " things from there too.

so the troops ARE dying for America..........the Imperialistic ever growing "powerful" America. No one gives one damn about the Iraqis no matter the spin that comes out of the WH.....

Iraq will be "free" as long as the US says so. Ya see, the US will simply "have" to stay there indefinately as they are the only ones that can restore stability in what they destabilized......plus they can continue to claim that the Iraqi gov't is just too 'young" to manage on their own now.

smoke and mirrors.......based on fabrications. and an overdose of spin (that can make one dizzy)

quite devious. ( if they wanted Iraq so bad......why didn't they just buy it and save the world all this grief.)

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GL: of course they lie to themselves........how else could they lie to everyone else with such conviction. :wink: Heck , they most likely BELIEVE their own lies by now. This is probably why they can dismiss "truths" and documents that negate their stance with such ease . Truth is a foreign dimension to their mindSET. (mindlock) But isn't this how fanatics on some "mission" operate??
 
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RE: Pre-War Memo: 'US La

Well they sure are backed into a corner on this one now, they can't up and leave. They should never gone there to begin with. That being said they should clean up their mess or turn over control to the UN so the world can clean up their mess and get America the hell out of their before they cause anymore damage.

For a so called super power nation their leader and top generals are sure incompetent. Their Navey and air force may be top notch but their ground forces sure in hell are not. Of course in Vietnam and Korea were the same.

I guess NK and Iran are taking notes on America's weakness to fight ground battles...............If "W" invaded either of those countries the death toll would be 100-500 fold more for american soldiers compared to how easy they are getting off in Iraq which has/had no real military to fight them off.

If "W" and Cheney, Rumsfeld and top Army officers were real men they would turn themselves in, at the Hague and be tried for being the War Criminals they are. If they believe they are innocent of War Crimes (like they think) then what are they afraid of? The world court is a lot more democratic and fair compared to the American justice system.
 
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no1important said:
Well they sure are backed into a corner on this one now, they can't up and leave. They should never gone there to begin with. That being said they should clean up their mess or turn over control to the UN so the world can clean up their mess and get America the hell out of their before they cause anymore damage.

For a so called super power nation their leader and top generals are sure incompetent. Their Navey and air force may be top notch but their ground forces sure in hell are not. Of course in Vietnam and Korea were the same.

I guess NK and Iran are taking notes on America's weakness to fight ground battles...............If "W" invaded either of those countries the death toll would be 100-500 fold more for american soldiers compared to how easy they are getting off in Iraq which has/had no real military to fight them off.

If "W" and Cheney, Rumsfeld and top Army officers were real men they would turn themselves in, at the Hague and be tried for being the War Criminals they are. If they believe they are innocent of War Crimes (like they think) then what are they afraid of? The world court is a lot more democratic and fair compared to the American justice system.
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good post.

(would the US have the integrety /honor to admit any mistakes ??? (or crimes??) About a snowball's chance in "hell" )

btw: I suspect just about EVERYONE is "taking notes on this one.... :wink: The world is watching this very closely. The US(G) is under the microscope .------and being disected .
 
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