Where do we go from here????

[HOCK]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/04/05/deadly.force.ap/index.html

Gov Bush is about to sign into law, a use of force policy for the average citizen who feels threaten...even outside their homes. It would be interesting to see where this is going to lead...?? :roll:

 

[MMMike]

Why would it "lead" anywhere? This law is not going to change peoples behaviour one whit. Previous court cases have held that if attacked, a person has a DUTY to retreat or run away. This is totally unreasonable, and this law was introduced to address it.

 

[Jo Canadian]

 

[MMMike]

So... I guess the only difference between Europe and the U.S. is gun control policy?????

 

[ElPolaco]

I think Michael Moore in "bowling for columbine" points out that it is more than relaxed gun laws, but what he refered to as a "culture of fear".

 

[jamie]

Yeah, Jo Canadian. Take all the guns away from regular citizens just so the government and criminals are the only ones to possess them. Seems like a good idea to benefit the latter two.

 

[MMMike]

I think there are a lot of reasons for higher gun deaths in the U.S., not the least of which is a bigger spread between the rich & the poor.

 

[Reverend Blair]

RE: Where do we go from h

There are other reasons, but gun-related deaths are related to guns. To say otherwise is ridiculous.

The legislation will pass and some poor bastard will try to deliver a pizza to the wrong house and take a bullet for it.

 

[Jo Canadian]

So... I guess the only difference between Europe and the U.S. is gun control policy?????

No. It was funny.




Although I believe that that type of protection would or should be necessary, that bill will lead to more irrisponsible use of firearms. Without the bill it's almost like keeping people protected from themselves, and now that that can of worms is going to open it's going to complicate matters in court when it comes to itchy trigger fingered idiots. As if that wasn't a problem before, but now they can use the self defense excuse to try get free.

At least it's not as stupid as the Arizona law that would allow you to carry a gun into a bar eh? I'd hate to be a bouncer at any establishments down there. Drunks are bad enough, armed drunks...I'm not even going to go there.

 

[no1important]

RE: Where do we go from h

American politicians are absolutely crazy.!

Now I know part of the reason why America is such a very violent society.

 

[MMMike]

What, now you would take away the right to self-defense? There is nothing wrong with this law, just something wrong with the judgements which precipitated it.

 

[peapod]

The most interesting thing to me in all this is, "the right to bear arms" is ingrained in the american experience. What happened to all the other things the founding fathers tried to instill.????

 

[jamie]

Re: RE: Where do we go from h

American politicians are absolutely crazy.!

Now I know part of the reason why America is such a very violent society.

Your country is releasing a woman who helped sexually assault and murder many young girls, including her own sister in July. Get off your high horse. There is not a country on this earth that isn't violent. Some are just more prone to avert their eyes from it.

 

[no1important]

Re: RE: Where do we go from h

American politicians are absolutely crazy.!

Now I know part of the reason why America is such a very violent society.

Your country is releasing a woman who helped sexually assault and murder many young girls, including her own sister in July. Get off your high horse. There is not a country on this earth that isn't violent. Some are just more prone to avert their eyes from it.

She served 12 years, and she did a plea bargin to do that. America of all the so called civilized countries is the most violent of them all or don't you watch the news? It never ends down there. Americans need serious gun control and now.

Americans seem more and more unable to solve problems peacefully and have to resort to violence and thats a fact.

Maybe people would not have to arm themselves if all these weapons were not readily availble.

Plus isn't Canada your country too? It says Toronto in your profile.

 

[Jay]

The most interesting thing to me in all this is, "the right to bear arms" is ingrained in the american experience. What happened to all the other things the founding fathers tried to instill.????

Good point. Do you have any particular "things" you would like to mention for discussion?

 

[mrmom2]

Russia is way more violent than US !I have friend there and he said everything is run by the mob and you do not mess with them People murdered all the time we just never hear about it

 

[Wetcoast40]

Re: RE: Where do we go from here????

What, now you would take away the right to self-defense? There is nothing wrong with this law, just something wrong with the judgements which precipitated it.

Gun deaths in the United States are a factor of 9 times more frequent per capita than in Canada. The Canadian experience is not unlike Great Britain and Europe where guns are also restricted. The numbers speak for themselves.
Coaster

 

[peapod]

Jamie I fail to see where you are going with karla. Karla is going to be free because of lousy police work, they do it all the time. I have no doubt its because of lack of funding to. Actually Jay I am finished with the politics around here for awhile, it leaves a bad taste in my mouth. No I will be causing trouble in the lounge now and the community centre.

 

[no1important]

Re: RE: Where do we go from here????

Russia is way more violent than US !I have friend there and he said everything is run by the mob and you do not mess with them People murdered all the time we just never hear about it

I said civilized when I guess I should of said "first world" like US, Britain, Canada etc Russia is a third world to me.

 

[mrmom2]

My friend would beg to differ on that on with you no1.He lives in Moscow I guess theres good parts and bad there